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Newsom and PUC services... poortiga ammudu poyaru..

anduke e daridrudini encourage seyyakandi Presidential candidate ga... hope someone stands up from East Coast

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Multiple efforts are underway on both sides of California’s political divide to short-circuit a legislative plan to impose income-based fees on customers of Southern California Edison and other utilities.

Both Democrats and Republicans in the state Legislature have crafted separate measures designed to squash a plan to implement a fixed utility charge based on income that lawmakers hastily approved in 2022 in an 11-hour proceeding and then signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Southern California Edison, San Diego Gas & Electric and PG&E would be able to impose the new income-based utility charge on their customers if the state Public Utilities Commission gives the plan a final OK — potentially by this July. Gov. Newsom appointed all five current members of the powerful and unelected PUC.

The fixed fees would immediately make California, ominously, the home of the nation’s highest income-based fixed fees.

The nationwide average for such income-based fees is $11.15, according to a report by EQ Research.

The three major California utilities will charge far more:

— Southern California Edison, $51.

— San Diego Gas & Electric, $73.31.

— PG&E, $50.92.

State lawmakers are increasingly alarmed about the proposal.

“Too many Californians struggle to afford their electricity bills at a time when energy is already unreliable, and yet the legislature thought it was a good idea to rip people off more,” state Sen. Wilk (R-Santa Clarita) said in a prepared release this week.

The fixed-income proposal has surfaced at a time when PG&E bills, along with the bills charged by the other two utility titans, have skyrocketed.

“Our constituents have had enough and so have we,” said Assemblymember Irwin (D-Thousand Oaks). “It’s time to put some reasoning back into how we charge for electricity in California.”

Among the major problems that critics of the plan articulate: The state PUC would have to craft a system to analyze the income levels of utility customers.

“Income data is confidential,” Faruqui and the other economists stated in the filing with the PUC. “Most customers would not like their income data to be discovered by a third party acting on behalf of the utility.”

Attempts to dive into income tax filings — normally the purvey primarily of the Internal Revenue Service and in California the state Franchise Tax Board — could unleash questions about the constitutionality of such a procedure.

Plenty of other complications loom, opponents of the plan note.

“Many homes in the state are owned by non-California residents who do not report their income to the state franchise tax board,” Faruqui and the other economists wrote in the filing. “Customers’ incomes vary over time. Incomes that are reported on tax forms are often erroneous and often misreported. Furthermore, the proposed procedure is cumbersome and subject to errors.”

Plus, according to the economists, the IT departments of PG&E and its sibling utility monopolies might be poorly equipped to extract such information from their customers.

The new fixed charge would vary depending on the household income levels of the respective customers. Here’s how the fixed charges would work in the PG&E service territory, based on a four-person household:

— Households earning less than $28,000 a year would pay a fixed charge of $15 a month on their electric bills.

— Households with annual income from $28,000 to $69,000 would pay $30 a month.

— Households earning from $69,000 to $180,000 would pay $51 a month.

— Those with incomes above $180,000 would pay $92 a month.

 

@Vaaaampire  @csrcsr @Konebhar6 @JaiBalayyaaa

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And PGE announced 25% yoY increase in earnings today...

2B$ fine kattandi ra Fires ki reason ante....infra upgrade ki dabbul levani..rates pencharu 2 times since Dec 2023 and Feb 2024..

increase of 27% in energy billl.

malli ido kotta lolli....mchod galla nunchi..

solar panel adoption taggipoindi vella addagolu flat rate valla....

anduke kotta idea to dabbulu lagudam ani digitunnaru LKs.

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1 minute ago, Spartan said:

^&H  nuvvokadivi...ready ga untav CA ni SF ni emanna ante..

videos to..Undavalli Arun Kumar gadi la

dont think things which are not in control , think of a company, job where you can hit lot of stocks like @Vaaampire anna 

pge bill, car addalu ivvani chinnavi atleast evaru goli tiyadu , the amount of money people make is huge pge bill , utilities bull , trash bill you cannot count andaram unadali andaram bagundali anudlo manam undali rofl

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5 minutes ago, Spartan said:

^&H  nuvvokadivi...ready ga untav CA ni SF ni emanna ante..

videos to..Undavalli Arun Kumar gadi la

oka sari ala shivaru pranthamu kelli chudu anna they are buying like houses like pippermets, mysore paaks chinnapudu if you remember we used to buy in small kirana shops , just ala weekend pothunaru new house for them ee bills anni peanuts 

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Guddal dammu unte house size batti electric bill veyyamanandi... hypocrite bastards.

Tech vallu salary ekkuva tecchukuntunnaru ani edupi tho sacchipotunnaru

 

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6 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

oka sari ala shivaru pranthamu kelli chudu anna they are buying like houses like pippermets, mysore paaks chinnapudu if you remember we used to buy in small kirana shops , just ala weekend pothunaru new house for them ee bills anni peanuts 

 

8 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

dont think things which are not in control , think of a company, job where you can hit lot of stocks like @Vaaampire anna 

pge bill, car addalu ivvani chinnavi atleast evaru goli tiyadu , the amount of money people make is huge pge bill , utilities bull , trash bill you cannot count andaram unadali andaram bagundali anudlo manam undali rofl

ela anna...... $s@d

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3 minutes ago, Spartan said:

O.  O

ela anna...... $s@d

Not sure I met one person in tracy hills , next week folsom lo Graham pravehsam anta 970 a candidate ki inka rendu unayi yracy hills lathrop lo 

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2 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said:

Ante ippudu electricity Bill + 92 kattala monthly... @Spartan

yes @Anta Assamey daniki todu... in case Solar unte..

8$ per Kw installed flat rate anta...  };_  anduke pettinchatledu

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1 minute ago, Anta Assamey said:

Idi ekkadi bokka.... 47osjd.gif

a bumper offer kuda only kottaga install cheskune vallake.. since July 2023

already install chesi rebate techukunnolaki..free anta..

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1 hour ago, Spartan said:

Newsom and PUC services... poortiga ammudu poyaru..

anduke e daridrudini encourage seyyakandi Presidential candidate ga... hope someone stands up from East Coast

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Multiple efforts are underway on both sides of California’s political divide to short-circuit a legislative plan to impose income-based fees on customers of Southern California Edison and other utilities.

Both Democrats and Republicans in the state Legislature have crafted separate measures designed to squash a plan to implement a fixed utility charge based on income that lawmakers hastily approved in 2022 in an 11-hour proceeding and then signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Southern California Edison, San Diego Gas & Electric and PG&E would be able to impose the new income-based utility charge on their customers if the state Public Utilities Commission gives the plan a final OK — potentially by this July. Gov. Newsom appointed all five current members of the powerful and unelected PUC.

The fixed fees would immediately make California, ominously, the home of the nation’s highest income-based fixed fees.

The nationwide average for such income-based fees is $11.15, according to a report by EQ Research.

The three major California utilities will charge far more:

— Southern California Edison, $51.

— San Diego Gas & Electric, $73.31.

— PG&E, $50.92.

State lawmakers are increasingly alarmed about the proposal.

“Too many Californians struggle to afford their electricity bills at a time when energy is already unreliable, and yet the legislature thought it was a good idea to rip people off more,” state Sen. Wilk (R-Santa Clarita) said in a prepared release this week.

The fixed-income proposal has surfaced at a time when PG&E bills, along with the bills charged by the other two utility titans, have skyrocketed.

“Our constituents have had enough and so have we,” said Assemblymember Irwin (D-Thousand Oaks). “It’s time to put some reasoning back into how we charge for electricity in California.”

Among the major problems that critics of the plan articulate: The state PUC would have to craft a system to analyze the income levels of utility customers.

“Income data is confidential,” Faruqui and the other economists stated in the filing with the PUC. “Most customers would not like their income data to be discovered by a third party acting on behalf of the utility.”

Attempts to dive into income tax filings — normally the purvey primarily of the Internal Revenue Service and in California the state Franchise Tax Board — could unleash questions about the constitutionality of such a procedure.

Plenty of other complications loom, opponents of the plan note.

“Many homes in the state are owned by non-California residents who do not report their income to the state franchise tax board,” Faruqui and the other economists wrote in the filing. “Customers’ incomes vary over time. Incomes that are reported on tax forms are often erroneous and often misreported. Furthermore, the proposed procedure is cumbersome and subject to errors.”

Plus, according to the economists, the IT departments of PG&E and its sibling utility monopolies might be poorly equipped to extract such information from their customers.

The new fixed charge would vary depending on the household income levels of the respective customers. Here’s how the fixed charges would work in the PG&E service territory, based on a four-person household:

— Households earning less than $28,000 a year would pay a fixed charge of $15 a month on their electric bills.

— Households with annual income from $28,000 to $69,000 would pay $30 a month.

— Households earning from $69,000 to $180,000 would pay $51 a month.

— Those with incomes above $180,000 would pay $92 a month.

 

@Vaaaampire  @csrcsr @Konebhar6 @JaiBalayyaaa

Cheaper than what we pay now lol

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