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[Teluguredu]

1 hour ago, bharathicement said:

No hundreds of subsects of Reddies are there that belong to BC and SC categories.

But thats not my point here. Telangana Reddies look like beggars and behave like the same. I have a Visa Sponsorship Company in the UK and they are ready to clean my car and lavotories if I sponsor Visa. They do not show that upper caste G-balupu anyways.

The real G-balupu is with Rayalaseema Reddies who fcuked up entire seema but emigrate to every country on the Globe and give build up like they are building the whole world.

 

What reddy subsects fall under BC and sc/st? Kondareddies and palli reddies are not reddies.

 

you need to know their subcaste to know whether they are reddy or not. Reddy title is used by many castes.

Anyway tg in hands of Andhra people or else they have to live like slaves under doras where 2 castes of 6-7% population combined hold half of assembly seats.

[Mancode]

3 hours ago, jalsa01 said:

em logic vayya pulivendula lo entha mandi teddies untaro telsa?  Pitapuram lo contest cheyadaniki Fans ni nakeyadaniki em link undivayya?  Asala PK movies lo unte he would have led a better life!!

 No I'm not talking only Contesting in pitapuram ,but overall mega family is using cops ..very much ankutunna 

[Mancode]

1 minute ago, Mancode said:

 No I'm not talking only Contesting in pitapuram ,but overall mega family is using cops ..very much ankutunna 

4 hours ago, bharathicement said:

No hundreds of subsects of Reddies are there that belong to BC and SC categories.

But thats not my point here. Telangana Reddies look like beggars and behave like the same. I have a Visa Sponsorship Company in the UK and they are ready to clean my car and lavotories if I sponsor Visa. They do not show that upper caste G-balupu anyways.

The real G-balupu is with Rayalaseema Reddies who fcuked up entire seema but emigrate to every country on the Globe and give build up like they are building the whole world.

 

Adhi kaadu bhayya matter 

[bharathicement]

4 minutes ago, Mancode said:

Adhi kaadu bhayya matter 

Topic yeedhaina, root cause okkate: Comms Vs Cheddies

YellowMedia/KulaGajji/Ramoji Rao/MuraliMohan/CBN/*neni,*pati families/Govt contracts/Land Grabbing/Real Estate/Medical Maffia/Samshabad Lands/Amaravthi/Money/Money/Money/Money

       Vs

Reddi Kulagajji/Rayalaseema Beggars/Land maffia/YSR family/Yesu Reddy/Yeriakala Reddy/Hyderabad lands/Pharma Maffia/Murders/Rafes/killings/Caste/rowdyism/goondaism/bankrupting state..

 

AP is all about the above two groups.

[vincent]

Again spreading false info . Konda reddy st and palle reddy ( falls under matsyakara / agnikula kshatriya ) are not related to reddys in any way . 

Reddys have 5-6 sub castes - pakanati , motati , kodithi , pedakanti , velanati , gudati and panta . They all have " kapa oc " in certificate . Ysr falls under kodithi , revanth under motati etc .

It doesn't matter what you think , but literally 6-7 top 10 richest telugu people are reddies , while only they are 5-6 percent of population .

On the other hand , munnur kapu and turpu kapu are bc , suryabalija and vada balija are bc . Konda kapu are st . These are actual kapu subcastes . Chowdarys are bc in karnataka . So are balija . This is the reality .

 

[vincent]

Also , several kingdoms were ruled by reddys . Motati reddys ( highest subcaste ) ruled wanaparthy , munagala , gopalpet kingdoms .

Pakanati reddys were gadwal , domakonda , atmakur etc . rulers 

Reddy kingdom was ruled by panta reddys . Without knowing simple facts , you are just spreading false information left and right .

[maxmillions]

Hey vincent, Reddys are Backward caste in Karnataka, why are you hiding it? Wanaparthy, Munagala and Gopalpet are not kingdoms, they are SAMSTHANAMS, they are FIEFDOMS all these gadwal, domakonda and atmakur are SAMSTHANAMS, their own descendants agree that they are not kingdoms, why are you behaving as if they are? First you know simple facts, you  are the one spreading false information left and right, Don't forget that Reddys did nothing when Nizam started committing genocide, they were just bending their head and knees, In know way you can call them "kings" , Reddys and Velamas got that fiefdoms too because of supporting Islamic people in wars against Musunuri Nayakas and Vijayanagara and other kingdoms

[Teluguredu]

29 minutes ago, maxmillions said:

Hey vincent, Reddys are Backward caste in Karnataka, why are you hiding it? Wanaparthy, Munagala and Gopalpet are not kingdoms, they are SAMSTHANAMS, they are FIEFDOMS all these gadwal, domakonda and atmakur are SAMSTHANAMS, their own descendants agree that they are not kingdoms, why are you behaving as if they are? First you know simple facts, you  are the one spreading false information left and right, Don't forget that Reddys did nothing when Nizam started committing genocide, they were just bending their head and knees, In know way you can call them "kings" , Reddys and Velamas got that fiefdoms too because of supporting Islamic people in wars against Musunuri Nayakas and Vijayanagara and other kingdoms

 most zamindars in vijayanagara empire are from velama community in andhra.so saying they supported muslim invaders is baseless ,these two communities have been rivals from kakatiya times itself but velamas gained more power in andhra as they have allied with vijayanagara empire before reddies.

Reddies retained more power in tg due to their landbank.

Also musunuri nayaks didn't exist during nizam times ,funnily enough prola vema reddy who went on to establish reddy Kingdom in coastal Andhra fought alongside musunuri nayaks against the muslims.

[maxmillions]

On 3/16/2024 at 12:43 PM, Teluguredu said:

 most zamindars in vijayanagara empire are from velama community in andhra.so saying they supported muslim invaders is baseless ,these two communities have been rivals from kakatiya times itself but velamas gained more power in andhra as they have allied with vijayanagara empire before reddies.

Reddies retained more power in tg due to their landbank.

Also musunuri nayaks didn't exist during nizam times ,funnily enough prola vema reddy who went on to establish reddy Kingdom in coastal Andhra fought alongside musunuri nayaks against the muslims.

What a fake agenda peddler u r, when im particularly talking about nizam genocide context, u r bringing in Andhra pradesh velamas here who never did things telangana velamas did, u know the context yet still u tried to imply im non factual, Velamas in telangana are descendants of Recherla nayakas who allied with Muslims,, its a fact and i have evidence form historical books , so stop ur bullshitting here, 

Musunri Nayakas existed even before nizam, do i have to provide citations from books written by historians? Proalaya vemareddy supported musunuri nayakas in their wars against muslims, but reddies in telangana supported muslims, prolaya vema reddy supported musunuri nayakas that too out of fear of invasion, becayse prolaya vema redyd never initiated a war against muslims, Rest of the reddy feifdoms supported muslims, "funny enough" is you bringing truths but applying them to wrong context and timeline to portray facts as baseless. Not stupid to believe ur agenda, Sects of velamas in Telangana and all reddys in TS supported muslims and what do u mean by "landbank" they didnt have landbank when the land was in control of kakatiyas, they got extensive lands because of their support to muslims, funny enough u ignore basic timeline and chronology

[Teluguredu]

4 hours ago, maxmillions said:

What a fake agenda peddler u r, when im particularly talking about nizam genocide context, u r bringing in Andhra pradesh velamas here who never did things telangana velamas did, u know the context yet still u tried to imply im non factual, Velamas in telangana are descendants of kapaya nayakas who allied with Muslims,, its a fact and i have evidence form historical books , so stop ur bullshitting here, 

Musunri Nayakas existed even before nizam, do i have to provide citations from books written by historians? Proalaya vemareddy supported musunuri nayakas in their wars against muslims, but reddies in telangana supported muslims, prolaya vema reddy supported musunuri nayakas that too out of fear of invasion, becayse prolaya vema redyd never initiated a war against muslims, Rest of the reddy feifdoms supported muslims, "funny enough" is you bringing truths but applying them to wrong context and timeline to portray facts as baseless. Not stupid to believe ur agenda, Sects of velamas in Telangana and all reddys in TS supported muslims and what do u mean by "landbank" they didnt have landbank when the land was in control of kakatiyas, they got extensive lands because of their support to muslims, funny enough u ignore basic timeline and chronology

Most zamindars during kakatiyas times were reddies and padmanyaka velamas ,there is a reason why there are no other upper castes in telangana.

They even had rivalry between each other.

Whatever you have written is pure b.s ,padmanayaka velamas are historically different from other velamas and were in kakatiya Kingdom along with reddies.

Koppula velamas,polinati velamas are different ,most zamindars in andhra and tg were from padmanayaka velamas caste.so saying andhra and tg velamas are different is pure b.s.

Andhra velamas got their land after they have allied with vijayanagara at the right time.

 

 

[maxmillions]

14 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

Most zamindars during kakatiyas times were reddies and padmanyaka velamas ,there is a reason why there are no other upper castes in telangana.

They even had rivalry between each other.

Whatever you have written is pure b.s ,padmanayaka velamas are historically different from other velamas and were in kakatiya Kingdom along with reddies.

Koppula velamas,polinati velamas are different ,most zamindars in andhra and tg were from padmanayaka velamas caste.so saying andhra and tg velamas are different is pure b.s.

Andhra velamas got their land after they have allied with vijayanagara at the right time.

 

 

1. Most Zamindars during kakatiyas were reddies? there was no zamindari system itself during kakatiya period, historians will laugh at your stupid bull claims.

2. I very well know difference between padmanayaka velamas and other velamas, Padama Nayaka Velamas of Telangana supported Muslims.

Why are you talking off-topic ? The topic of discussion here is Telangana, telangana reddies and padmanayaka velamas didn't have lands under them when they were under kakatiyas they were just administering but not owning, after kakatiyas were backstabbed and fell, telangana reddies and velamas supported muslims within some point of time and claimed ownership of lands, Few telangana reddies had lands but not to the extent of your grandiose claims, they claimed much more land after kakatiyas fell. 

 

If you want to create fake history, remember that historians wont be convinced with your fake grandiose claims of ur caste because they very well have evidence document of support which clearly say telangana reddies supported muslims to keep their lay on the lands they claimed after kakatiyas fell. 

 

Also, before you reply now, check the reliability and veracity of your statements, zamindari system in kakatiyas??!! what a laughing stock u r!!

[Teluguredu]

1 hour ago, maxmillions said:

1. Most Zamindars during kakatiyas were reddies? there was no zamindari system itself during kakatiya period, historians will laugh at your stupid bull claims.

2. I very well know difference between padmanayaka velamas and other velamas, Padama Nayaka Velamas of Telangana supported Muslims.

Why are you talking off-topic ? The topic of discussion here is Telangana, telangana reddies and padmanayaka velamas didn't have lands under them when they were under kakatiyas they were just administering but not owning, after kakatiyas were backstabbed and fell, telangana reddies and velamas supported muslims within some point of time and claimed ownership of lands, Few telangana reddies had lands but not to the extent of your grandiose claims, they claimed much more land after kakatiyas fell. 

 

If you want to create fake history, remember that historians wont be convinced with your fake grandiose claims of ur caste because they very well have evidence document of support which clearly say telangana reddies supported muslims to keep their lay on the lands they claimed after kakatiyas fell. 

 

Also, before you reply now, check the reliability and veracity of your statements, zamindari system in kakatiyas??!! what a laughing stock u r!!

By zamindars I meant land-owning castes.kaapu itself means guardian of the land ,all the modern day  agricultural castes are land-owners turned into cultivators.

Most of the people who were feudals/palegars under kakatiya were padmanayaka velamas and reddies.even the rivalry between them is well-documented .also the zamindars during vijayanagara empire belonged to padmanayaka velamas ,you are bullshitting by separating telangana velamas and andhra velamas,they both are the same caste,although andhra reddy empire was different from tg ones.prola vema reddy belonged to panta reddy sub-caste while most tg zamindars during muslim period are pakanati and motati subcastes.

 

[maxmillions]

11 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

By zamindars I meant land-owning castes.kaapu itself means guardian of the land ,all the modern day  agricultural castes are land-owners turned into cultivators.

Most of the people who were feudals/palegars under kakatiya were padmanayaka velamas and reddies.even the rivalry between them is well-documented .also the zamindars during vijayanagara empire belonged to padmanayaka velamas ,you are bullshitting by separating telangana velamas and andhra velamas,they both are the same caste,although andhra reddy empire was different from tg ones.prola vema reddy belonged to panta reddy sub-caste while most tg zamindars during muslim period are pakanati and motati subcastes.

 

You are writing one statement that is truth followed by a false statement? is this ur strategy to do propaganda with half truths?? All the padmanayaka velamas are same, but their alliances are different, i think you pretty well know that, venkatagiri velamas didnt ally with shitty ppl like telangana velamas did, answer is , is it true or not? Pakanati kapu, motati kapu are the original names to their clans, later all of them started wanting to be recognised as a single entity reddy from 20th century, if i am not wrong it all started when telagas and other related castes stopped using balija name for them in north coastal region because eediga/gowd caste people started using "setti balija" as their name after forming some meetings, telagas and other related groups started identigying themselves as exclusively kapu, this propelled pokanati kapu motati kapu oruganto kapu all of them using reddy as the denotation as caste name since mid 19th century. How do you say that alliances/affiliations of all padmanayaka velamas are same? when it is clearly seen that telangana side padmanayaka velamas had alliances with shitty people where are venkatagiri and bobbili and many other  padmanayaka velamas didnt support such ppl?

[Teluguredu]

3 hours ago, maxmillions said:

You are writing one statement that is truth followed by a false statement? is this ur strategy to do propaganda with half truths?? All the padmanayaka velamas are same, but their alliances are different, i think you pretty well know that, venkatagiri velamas didnt ally with shitty ppl like telangana velamas did, answer is , is it true or not? Pakanati kapu, motati kapu are the original names to their clans, later all of them started wanting to be recognised as a single entity reddy from 20th century, if i am not wrong it all started when telagas and other related castes stopped using balija name for them in north coastal region because eediga/gowd caste people started using "setti balija" as their name after forming some meetings, telagas and other related groups started identigying themselves as exclusively kapu, this propelled pokanati kapu motati kapu oruganto kapu all of them using reddy as the denotation as caste name since mid 19th century. How do you say that alliances/affiliations of all padmanayaka velamas are same? when it is clearly seen that telangana side padmanayaka velamas had alliances with shitty people where are venkatagiri and bobbili and many other  padmanayaka velamas didnt support such ppl?

Good people bad people entra baabu vaalaki evaritho benefit unte vaaltho alliance pettukuntaaru.before allying with vijayanagara Kingdom they even allied with gajapati kingdom to fight against reddy Kingdom.alliances change based on circumstances.

Before you mentioned that tg velamas are different from andhra velamas ,when in reality they both are from same padmanayaka sect them and some reddy clans are from kakatiya era.kapaya nayaka and padmyanaka velamas have no relation as you said so,infact he has been killed by padmanayakas.

Kaapu is just a generic term for protector in telugu it's not a caste all land-owning communities are kaapu only,they have divided based on their alliances and their location of origin.

 

 

[maxmillions]

4 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

Good people bad people entra baabu vaalaki evaritho benefit unte vaaltho alliance pettukuntaaru.before allying with vijayanagara Kingdom they even allied with gajapati kingdom to fight against reddy Kingdom.alliances change based on circumstances.

Before you mentioned that tg velamas are different from andhra velamas ,when in reality they both are from same padmanayaka sect them and some reddy clans are from kakatiya era.kapaya nayaka and padmyanaka velamas have no relation as you said so,infact he has been killed by padmanayakas.

Kaapu is just a generic term for protector in telugu it's not a caste all land-owning communities are kaapu only,they have divided based on their alliances and their location of origin.

 

 

Sorry I meant Recherla Nayakas not kapaya nayakas.

Nuvvu ekkuva cheyamaku nenu proofs tho cheppanu how padma nayaka velamas of Bobbili and Venkatagiri didnot support muslims, but telangana ones did, so there is indeed distinction and the difference im referring to is this, Telangana velamas gained lots of land on to their existing land because they were supporting muslims, After kakatiyas fell they claimed lands which they didnt have before and without waging war against muslims, they supported them mostly.

All land owning communities are not kapu , its a fake thing floated by people who try to claim high status. If all land owning communities are kapu why there is a distinction then? All the telagas and balijas of coastal andhra started using kapu as caste name only since a century or before. Reddys had kapu suffix added to their clans, likr bhumanchi kapu, oruganti kapu, motati kapu, pokanati kapu,velanati kapu, nereti kapu, ayodhya kapu, morasa kapu, panta kapu, pongali nati kapu, kuncheti kapu,godati kapu, gandikota kapu, oruganti kapu around 1930s they started claiming the title they used as caste, the britishers registered them as kapu before in the census because they were. Present day kapus (who were originally related to telagas and balijas ) are not the previous day's kapus. Also all the zamindaris claimed by todays kapus were registered either as Telaga or Balija in all the records