India real estate…apartments vs villas…

[Android_Halwa]

34 minutes ago, Assam_Bhayya said:

Monna east side oka pedha layout di issue ayindhi, 1998 layout anta, rampally/yamnampet/ghatkesar road side. Evado paper thechinadu, 1998 layout esinappudu 1 yr lo okka plot kuda ammudu poley ani naaku GPA chesi ichinadu, motham plots ammukomani, nenu Prudential bank lo paisal esi ani document thechinadu, ippudu bank kuda ledu. Pedha settlement nadusthundhi. Main patta nundi conversion tho link document base cheskuni konna plot owners labo dibomantunnaru. GPA document is earlier document antadu vaadu, meeru konnadi valla kids sign chesina document, naaku pattadhar/landowner GPA chesi ichinadi ani vaadu antadu. Inni rokulu ekkadiki vellavu, nee claim invalid ani case nadusthundhi, lawyers thintunnar paisal. 

Watch out for Dharani recommendations...I think ie 1-2 months la finalize chestunaru and apparently gumpu mestri is very serious on this matter, want to roll out new dharani 2.0 before land acquisition starts for regional ring road. Hopefully deeni tarvata aina layout and lands ki security assurance vunte bagundu.

Konni plans telsinayi, entha varaku nijamo telvadu kani RRR marking complete ayinaka HMDA limits ni RRR varaku extend cheyadam, A common layout plan for within the limits, radial roads linking rrr and orr and irr and these roads to be projected as new growth corridors, SEZ's for SME's, TS Ipass ni inka improve chesi, 5 years 1 rupee ki commercial electricity for new SMEs in SEZ's...

[psycontr]

1 hour ago, Assam_Bhayya said:

Monna east side oka pedha layout di issue ayindhi, 1998 layout anta, rampally/yamnampet/ghatkesar road side. Evado paper thechinadu, 1998 layout esinappudu 1 yr lo okka plot kuda ammudu poley ani naaku GPA chesi ichinadu, motham plots ammukomani, nenu Prudential bank lo paisal esi ani document thechinadu, ippudu bank kuda ledu. Pedha settlement nadusthundhi. Main patta nundi conversion tho link document base cheskuni konna plot owners labo dibomantunnaru. GPA document is earlier document antadu vaadu, meeru konnadi valla kids sign chesina document, naaku pattadhar/landowner GPA chesi ichinadi ani vaadu antadu. Inni rokulu ekkadiki vellavu, nee claim invalid ani case nadusthundhi, lawyers thintunnar paisal. 

 for this reason we need land titling act.

[dasari4kntr]

9 hours ago, Assam_Bhayya said:

Apartment is never an investment. But, apartment life is good compared to villas. First thing safety. corridors, lifts share chesune neighbors untaru, living in a community feeling. Celebrations like new year, Ganesh Chaturthi, Diwali, etc, @csrcsr bro annattu, you'll have amenities, like jogging track, clubhouse/gym, kontha mandi janala tho kalisi walking, jogging is better than isolated life in villa community. Critical situations lo help cheyyadaniki, suggestions ivvadaniki neighbours untaru, in case evanna contacts kavali, influence kavali ante. 

agree…

but what i am seeing is..hyd is growing as cosmopolitan with mixed culture just like NYC…land rates and villa rates are already soaring…so apartment is the only affordable option either for living or investment…(agree… not profitable as much as compared to land appreciation or villa…but still considering as investment option because of growth factors…)

if we are talking about Bangalore, chennai or కలకత్తా…i wont prefer apartment option…they already peaked this apartment culture and they are in stagnation period…

[Assam_Bhayya]

7 hours ago, psycontr said:

 for this reason we need land titling act.

Land titling act intention is good anna. Decades nundi litigations lo unna lands, boundary disputes anni oke sari Revenue dept and other departments co-ordination tho kalisi verify chesi current owner ki permanent rights confirm chestharu. Further ga transactions, ownership transfer easy and tension free. Kaani mana dheggara administration lo antha honest ga, responsibile ga cheyaru kada staff. chethi vaatam chupistharu. Ippudu proper ga unna properties ku kuda melikalu petti dabbul dobbali ani chustharu, adhe problem. Ideas baguntayi, Laws bagane frame chestharu, implementation kashtam, too much of greed thelusu kadha. Thindi ki lenodi dheggara kuda commission kavali ane rakam govt emps.  

[Kalam_Youtheman]

apartment is always better easy to rent easy to sale on top of it everything will be inside the community and best for all ages in this generation.

villas ante isolated same US Life style..evvadi pani vaaade..evvvadu kanipincjhaadu streets lo...andhaaru okka daggariki vellali to meet or walk.. independent a but not worth at this age.. if u prefer hadavidi during festivals,celvebrations apartment comples in gated communicties best like Sattva, aparna,. rajphspa, etc...

[lollilolli2020]

13 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

i have some random thoughts…i would like to discuss this…in both NRI perspective and resident Indian perspective… 

urban living has many challenges…but major challenges are water availability,  traffic issues and weather and pollution…etc i want to discuss these challenges in …apartment vs villa comparison ..

 

APARTMENTS

- mostly these will be in city surroundings, so public transport is easily accessible…so less traffic issue’s compared to others…

- more water issues may occur in future 

- if you got the flat above 20th or 30th floor…you will get less pollution 

- if your planning for giving to rent…it’s better investment than villa..

- if your planning to sell after the builder finish the building…do it as early as possible 

- if your choice is apartment go for modern cosmopolitan communities which has good amenities and as much as near to public transportation 

 

VILLA

- mostly villas will be in city outskirts so less water issues but more traffic and commute issues

- public transport will be an issue you may need your own vehicle 

- villa owners  should be ready for pollution and possible flooding if you are in down hill…

- if your investing on villa for rent…i think its bad investment…

- unlike apartment you cant sell the villa immediately…it needs sometime to get good returns…

- if your choice is villa…go far and get it on cheap price and wait for bit long to get good returns…

 

@Assam_Bhayya bro…correct me…or  add your points if i miss any…

 

em matladutunnav bro; 
may be you are taking reg particulate matter ante naa;

air quality doesn't get better anna if you think about it. more importantly pollution toh ochche acid rains or smogs equally affect aitham gaa high rise lo vunna kuda. 

 

[Paamu]

Don’t buy anything. Enjoy the money. 

[dasari4kntr]

38 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

em matladutunnav bro; 
may be you are taking reg particulate matter ante naa;

air quality doesn't get better anna if you think about it. more importantly pollution toh ochche acid rains or smogs equally affect aitham gaa high rise lo vunna kuda. 

 

 

there is slight advantage...with higher floors... less sound pollution, slightly better air quality...

 

Is There Less Pollution on Higher Floors? Is Air Quality Better on High Rise Buildings? – Smart Air

Choon Khin

3–4 minutes

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Residing on elevated levels in tall buildings creates a sense of isolation from the surrounding world—cars, streets, and shaokao vendors appear more distant. The question arises: does this elevated living also translate to lower PM2.5 air pollution levels on higher floors?

The Tall Building Pollution Test

Tristan from the Smart Air team tested this by taking laser particle counters from floor 1 to floor 22 of an apartment building in Chaoyangmen, Beijing. Tristan tested on two polluted summer days. The World Health Organization’s 24-hour PM2.5 limit is 25 micrograms. Tristan measured 207 micrograms on day 1 and 84 micrograms on day 2, so these were polluted days.

Tristan brought the Air Visual Node and the Dylos DC1700 laser particle counters and took measurements at every hallway window in from floor 1 to 22 and all the even-numbered floors in between. Tests have found that the Dylos and Node correlate highly with the US Embassy PM2.5 readings (r > .90).

Results: The Small Stuff

First we looked at the smaller particles, particles 0.5 microns and above. We did the most drastic comparison: was particulate lower on the 22^nd floor than the 1^st floor?

On Day 1, the Dylos found small particulate was actually a bit higher on the top floor.

On Day 2, the Node found PM2.5 was about the same on the top floor.

Results were similar when we averaged floors 1-10 versus floors 12-22. Upper floors were slightly higher in one test, slightly lower on the other test.

Bottom line: There is no clear benefit of living on a high floor in small particles.

Results: Larger Particles

So there weren’t clear differences in the small particles, but what about larger particles above 2.5 microns? Perhaps this sort of dust is lower on the higher floors because it settles faster than small particles.

Again, there was no clear benefit. The 22^nd floor had fewer particles on Day 1 with the Dylos:

But then the 22^nd floor had more large particles on Day 2 with the Node:

But averaging floors 1-10 versus 12-22, higher floors had a slight advantage for these large particles. Higher floors had 3% fewer large particles on day 1 and 10% fewer on day 2.

Higher floors may have slightly fewer large particles.

Smart Air

So How High Up Do You Need to Be?

So living on the 22^nd floor doesn’t help with the small PM2.5 particles. Then how high would you have to live to escape PM2.5? Without a helicopter to do these tests, here’s our best guess:

Air mixes to different heights in the summer and winter, in day and night. In the daytime, the lowest average mixing height is 1,000 meters, which is a lot higher than high rise buildings.

At about 3.1 meters per floor, people on the 20^th floor are about 62 meters high. So that’s not going to get us anywhere near the 1,000 meter mixing height.

Higher Floors May Breathe Easier at Night

But at night, air is more settled. The average is around 50-100 meters, which translates to a height of 16-32 stories. That means plenty of buildings of buildings should be above the average mixing height–at night. Thus, it’d be worth running these tests again at night! 

[DarkKnight19]

10 hours ago, psycontr said:

 for this reason we need land titling act.

Yeah just before 2029 elections ycp can include compulsory land titling act in their manifesto.... full land slide victory....

[beerboy17]

just out of curious i am wondering during your retirement you prefer to stay in US or India ? considering the lonelyness and medicare costs and any other factors you consider

[dasari4kntr]

4 minutes ago, beerboy17 said:

just out of curious i am wondering during your retirement you prefer to stay in US or India ? considering the lonelyness and medicare costs and any other factors you consider

...india..

[lollilolli2020]

10 minutes ago, beerboy17 said:

just out of curious i am wondering during your retirement you prefer to stay in US or India ? considering the lonelyness and medicare costs and any other factors you consider

India lo emanna takkuva aithayi ani anukuntunnava on top of it; accountability ledu. 

[beerboy17]

14 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

India lo emanna takkuva aithayi ani anukuntunnava on top of it; accountability ledu. 

India lo anni type of costs yuntayi... normal middle class to ambani varaku... ikada alakadu they have their own procedure  

[JANASENA]

16 hours ago, csrcsr said:

Agree but the premiums you pay for stuff like clubhouse,  tennis , yoga etc when you are nit using , instead I will pay them for known lobby to protect, the value for money is more in lands,  yes I understand if parents or siblings are living there they enjoying the amenities worth , but vallu memu raamu , a city life faulthu waste anaru anuko manam just renter enjoy cheyadaniki ichinatku untadi, and those are coming at hefty price , if u invest the same in growth cities here it's more safe and more value just naa yokka idi ivala repu fundamentals logic doesn't work go with the flow anthe

+1

[lollilolli2020]

15 minutes ago, beerboy17 said:

India lo anni type of costs yuntayi... normal middle class to ambani varaku... ikada alakadu they have their own procedure  

appudu gurantee kuda vundadu.