Nayanthara joins the club of stupid actresses

[pativrata_pavitra]

Just now, gothamprince said:

Examination gowns specific ga untai, no doctor ever see a nude patient dude, we just expose the part to be examined that's all

oh ur job sucks then haha massage therapists might have more fun then lol

[TeluguTexas]

36 minutes ago, pativrata_pavitra said:

as a doctor u get to see women nude daily like while examining them??

Think before you speak 

[TeluguTexas]

1 hour ago, vetrivel said:

One delusional disorder patient said he invented Computer and IT 

 

No pacha hamas raised an eye

 

Instead thigh slapping repeating the same delusion

 

Now delusional pacha hamas questioning others

 

[CanadianMalodu]

36 minutes ago, gothamprince said:

Don't show your below average knowledge to me, firstly you are speaking to a doctor and univariate studies are nonsense or just rubbish in medical literature there is no cause and effect relationship you can prove with it , lol how stupid you can be sprouting gibberish here , you don't consider other comorbidities so how can you say they are on equal footing, we have to know their kidney function status and their BMI and their thyroid status and many more factors , do you even know what factors control our blood pressure without even knowing all these how do you imply the cause and effect relationship , which of the above is hibiscus affecting is it renin angiotensin system , so stop this *** nonsense and get lost

How fool of you to even say univariate study in medicine, name a drug approved based on univariate study, who even uses it

You seem to be hell bent on "drug", without even realizing how it's defined. Second thing, univariate, per se is not a bad study at all. The whole idea was to see if Hibiscus tea has any impact on blood pressure readings or not. It did appear to impact the blood pressure readings. As simple as that. Even you were to account for comorbidities,  at maximum would those would  have resulted in less effectiveness of blood pressure control, effective nonetheless. An acceptable P value would demonstrate the same in any controlled trial.

No primary cause was established for essential hypertension, although there are many factors linked to it. So, I don't see why that needs to be brought up. 

 

 

[gothamprince]

16 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

You seem to be hell bent on "drug", without even realizing how it's defined. Second thing, univariate, per se is not a bad study at all. The whole idea was to see if Hibiscus tea has any impact on blood pressure readings or not. It did appear to impact the blood pressure readings. As simple as that. Even you were to account for comorbidities,  at maximum would those would  have resulted in less effectiveness of blood pressure control, effective nonetheless. An acceptable P value would demonstrate the same in any controlled trial.

No primary cause was established for essential hypertension, although there are many factors linked to it. So, I don't see why that needs to be brought up. 

 

 

Again insisting this is just rubbish yes we haven't found the causes for primary hypertension but not considering other variables and just univariate study with very small small sample size and not peer reviewed is just rubbish in medical literature, I haven't heard anyone say a univariate study as authentic in any of the conferences I have attended and it's not how it is done , you don't just ask them to drink tea for 6 weeks and measure their bp later and say it worked , what are the physical activity of the individuals, we don't know if someone exercised and their BP is controlled and their sleep behaviour if some don't have adequate sleep their bp will be high so how can you say it is due to hibiscus 

[lollilolli2020]

6 hours ago, gothamprince said:

Again insisting this is just rubbish yes we haven't found the causes for primary hypertension but not considering other variables and just univariate study with very small small sample size and not peer reviewed is just rubbish in medical literature, I haven't heard anyone say a univariate study as authentic in any of the conferences I have attended and it's not how it is done , you don't just ask them to drink tea for 6 weeks and measure their bp later and say it worked , what are the physical activity of the individuals, we don't know if someone exercised and their BP is controlled and their sleep behaviour if some don't have adequate sleep their bp will be high so how can you say it is due to hibiscus 

same can be said to BP medicine too right; for example medicine esukunna, salt tagginchi, proper diet and sleep maintenance manchiga set aithe ippudu BP medicine goppathanam antava; 

ippudu viagra vundii hypertension ki treatment ki research chestante vere side effect valla it became primary drug for that side effect; same with ozempic adi diabetic medicine aa lekapotey weight loss medicine aa ani ardam aithaledu. 

also changing of the goal posts for diabetic glucose range. ila cheppukuntu potey ennenno; allopathy musugu lo chese lafoot practices, I just wanted to point out its all not black and white; its all grey there. 

 

[gothamprince]

1 hour ago, lollilolli2020 said:

same can be said to BP medicine too right; for example medicine esukunna, salt tagginchi, proper diet and sleep maintenance manchiga set aithe ippudu BP medicine goppathanam antava; 

ippudu viagra vundii hypertension ki treatment ki research chestante vere side effect valla it became primary drug for that side effect; same with ozempic adi diabetic medicine aa lekapotey weight loss medicine aa ani ardam aithaledu. 

also changing of the goal posts for diabetic glucose range. ila cheppukuntu potey ennenno; allopathy musugu lo chese lafoot practices, I just wanted to point out its all not black and white; its all grey there. 

 

Same cannot be said for BP meds , I guess you haven't read any of the studies how thoroughly they are tested how many times peer reviewed nullifying all other variables 

Check the studies on ACE inhibitors and ARBs you will understand the difference and clear mechanism of actions and what receptors they are acting are clearly described so not same brother 

And yes accidental discoveries did happen but later thoroughly tested before confirming it

[lollilolli2020]

1 hour ago, gothamprince said:

Same cannot be said for BP meds , I guess you haven't read any of the studies how thoroughly they are tested how many times peer reviewed nullifying all other variables 

Check the studies on ACE inhibitors and ARBs you will understand the difference and clear mechanism of actions and what receptors they are acting are clearly described so not same brother 

And yes accidental discoveries did happen but later thoroughly tested before confirming it

Pfizer and Moderna and other covid vaccines ki chusam gaa. 
malla covering ivvaku. 

I am not arguing or supporting Nayan part. I am just saying the ones you support (aka modern medicine) is not the holy grail.

 

[gothamprince]

7 hours ago, lollilolli2020 said:

Pfizer and Moderna and other covid vaccines ki chusam gaa. 
malla covering ivvaku. 

I am not arguing or supporting Nayan part. I am just saying the ones you support (aka modern medicine) is not the holy grail.

 

That is an emergency situation brother, I hope you can understand the difference , like first time happened in modern medicine so don't just blindly equate it to pseudoscience, hope your hibiscus cure all the diseases mentioned by nayan and use them and lead a happy life😊

[lollilolli2020]

11 hours ago, gothamprince said:

That is an emergency situation brother, I hope you can understand the difference , like first time happened in modern medicine so don't just blindly equate it to pseudoscience, hope your hibiscus cure all the diseases mentioned by nayan and use them and lead a happy life😊

ide mari athi ante; 
I clearly commented for the bold text. 

emergency situation ayina they flouted some basics of clinical trials, EU hearing lo pfizer ceo statement chusav kada.

Red: Did I ever say hibiscus cures all the diseases, and I support Nayan. neeku nuvve assumptions chesukunte ela. despite clearly mentioning that I don't support. 

anna cheppadu modern medicine is 100% perfect and cures all the diseases; don't follow Nayan follow gothamprince. 

happy aa ippudu. 

 

anti vaxxers antha potharu ani cheppukocharu kada mari vallandaru sachchara ??

 

 

 

also whats wrong in suggesting Hibiscus tea and drinking it; it may have therapeutic effects or not. 
inka kadupulo em esukunna nuvvu therapeutic effects chustava endii. 

I support Liverdoc in some cases like he is against using clay pots coz they might have arsenic in them ala case by case basis. also he says there is no safe limit of alcohol 

 

 

[gothamprince]

1 hour ago, lollilolli2020 said:

ide mari athi ante; 
I clearly commented for the bold text. 

emergency situation ayina they flouted some basics of clinical trials, EU hearing lo pfizer ceo statement chusav kada.

Red: Did I ever say hibiscus cures all the diseases, and I support Nayan. neeku nuvve assumptions chesukunte ela. despite clearly mentioning that I don't support. 

anna cheppadu modern medicine is 100% perfect and cures all the diseases; don't follow Nayan follow gothamprince. 

happy aa ippudu. 

 

anti vaxxers antha potharu ani cheppukocharu kada mari vallandaru sachchara ??

 

 

 

also whats wrong in suggesting Hibiscus tea and drinking it; it may have therapeutic effects or not. 
inka kadupulo em esukunna nuvvu therapeutic effects chustava endii. 

I support Liverdoc in some cases like he is against using clay pots coz they might have arsenic in them ala case by case basis. also he says there is no safe limit of alcohol 

 

 

I never said modern medicine is perfect, we do mistakes and learn from them, medicine itself is imperfect science, we agree that, most of it is gray the important points is we agree that and try to improve, most of the diagnoses we make also based on trial and error and even we diagnose it correctly many of them don't have cure or good treatment for that matter 

Do any others have courage to admit that theirs is not perfect, on what basis they claim it works

There is nothing in drinking hibiscus tea , but she claimed it is good for diabetes, flu etc, that is what my problem is

[kittaya]

On 7/29/2024 at 11:44 PM, Sixers said:

Surrogate mother 

[CanadianMalodu]

On 7/31/2024 at 1:32 AM, gothamprince said:

Again insisting this is just rubbish yes we haven't found the causes for primary hypertension but not considering other variables and just univariate study with very small small sample size and not peer reviewed is just rubbish in medical literature, I haven't heard anyone say a univariate study as authentic in any of the conferences I have attended and it's not how it is done , you don't just ask them to drink tea for 6 weeks and measure their bp later and say it worked , what are the physical activity of the individuals, we don't know if someone exercised and their BP is controlled and their sleep behaviour if some don't have adequate sleep their bp will be high so how can you say it is due to hibiscus 

Define authenticity(?). Univariate analyses are most simplest form of analysing data. The idea here is to show hibiscus tea is beneficial in cases of hypertension. The studies demonstrated that. They didn't advocate it as a  "cure" or replacement for hypertension drugs. Some of these variables that you talked of are normalized by presence of control group. 

 

[CanadianMalodu]

On 7/31/2024 at 11:22 AM, gothamprince said:

Same cannot be said for BP meds , I guess you haven't read any of the studies how thoroughly they are tested how many times peer reviewed nullifying all other variables 

Check the studies on ACE inhibitors and ARBs you will understand the difference and clear mechanism of actions and what receptors they are acting are clearly described so not same brother 

And yes accidental discoveries did happen but later thoroughly tested before confirming it

ACE Inhibitors and ARBs both affect your renal function in far worse manner. My own grand mothers kidney got shrunk after a decade usage of  cocktail of Hypertension meds. Hibiscus tea by that measure has a long history of "safe" use. 

[CanadianMalodu]

On 7/31/2024 at 8:47 PM, gothamprince said:

That is an emergency situation brother, I hope you can understand the difference , like first time happened in modern medicine so don't just blindly equate it to pseudoscience, hope your hibiscus cure all the diseases mentioned by nayan and use them and lead a happy life😊

 

A pandemic where survival rate is over 99%. The vax were approved with little to no safety data and were mandated. These are experimental vaccines. 

Where is the pseudoscience here? Where did Nayan or anyone else claimed hibiscus tea "cured" hypertension? If it works for anyone including that's good for them. Even if it's placebo which you'd like to think, I think there is no harm from it.