Konebhar6 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 36 minutes ago, Joker_007 said: Stock Market Antene pedda Kothula Market kaka.. Yedi sakramanga undadu.. true but regulatory control and auditing much better in us. Companies think twice to do fraud. A few yrs back a company got to know their sales head paid bribery in Russia. They fired him and reported this to securities commission . They put some fine. But not as much if securities commission got to know. How many companies in India would do that? Accounting fraud is a lot more in India than US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushpam123 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 minute ago, Konebhar6 said: true but regulatory control and auditing much better in us. Companies think twice to do fraud. A few yrs back a company got to know their sales head paid bribery in Russia. They fired him and reported this to securities commission . They put some fine. But not as much if securities commission got to know. How many companies in India would do that? Accounting fraud is a lot more in India than US. india lo chala control chestaru like upper circuit lower circuit untadi stock anta kanna grow avadu but us lo ala kadu oke roju 90 % paidi next day ante prigidi kuda which helps big heads vellu kuda ala cheyachu but ala cheyaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker_007 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 6 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said: true but regulatory control and auditing much better in us. Companies think twice to do fraud. A few yrs back a company got to know their sales head paid bribery in Russia. They fired him and reported this to securities commission . They put some fine. But not as much if securities commission got to know. How many companies in India would do that? Accounting fraud is a lot more in India than US. Anthemi ledu kaka...Fraud happens a lot in US also As some one said earlier dorikina vaadu donga.. The best thing is the laws are powerful and it won't take too much time like India .. Also the Sentences are brutal and Quick (Except you have huge pile of money to drag the case, but it is also dangerous as once the case is getting dragged the punishment will be maximum with no Parole). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 49 minutes ago, Joker_007 said: Anthemi ledu kaka...Fraud happens a lot in US also As some one said earlier dorikina vaadu donga.. The best thing is the laws are powerful and it won't take too much time like India .. Also the Sentences are brutal and Quick (Except you have huge pile of money to drag the case, but it is also dangerous as once the case is getting dragged the punishment will be maximum with no Parole). Agree there is fraud in US. But not to the extent as in India. I have see. The regulations put in place and have seen corporate governance up close, so I know. Companies and people are scared of the punishment unlike India where they know they can easily get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 58 minutes ago, pushpam123 said: india lo chala control chestaru like upper circuit lower circuit untadi stock anta kanna grow avadu but us lo ala kadu oke roju 90 % paidi next day ante prigidi kuda which helps big heads vellu kuda ala cheyachu but ala cheyaru Agree. But there won’t be any buyers at lower circuit. The stock will have lower circuit for a few days and very few transactions happen at lower circuit. Even in India circuit is only for 2 hrs. Trading resumes after that. They reduce circuit to 10%, 5% and 2% after certain trading days. But there won’t be any buyers. So neither the option in India nor the one in US is good. Fraud jarigithe, nothing happens to the bigwigs in corporate but only small investors lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galiraju Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 i undertsand they want to topple the market.. india market mostly invested in Adani esp govt projects and fuel...but adani has no money he does...moooodu mukalata...and no manufacturing also....his building is pekameda...so they want to short him and destabiliese the economy...dollar goes good for us actually...if wrong plz explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android_Halwa Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Chass..:SEBI chairman ki offshore companies and overseas Adani companies lo secret stake vundi anta… Idi Hindenburg gadi expose..!!! Retail investors antha monday morning kosam ‘buy the sip’ kosam wait chestunte eedu sebi chairman donga panula gurinchi expose…!! Inkosari Hindenburg Research ante kodtaru public.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavanonline Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 veedu nijam cheppina evaru nammaru inka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittaya Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 11 hours ago, csrcsr said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-eSosXi3Qd/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== He interrogates companies tied to govt ... Short the stocks by releasing the news ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMaverick Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 4 hours ago, Android_Halwa said: Chass..:SEBI chairman ki offshore companies and overseas Adani companies lo secret stake vundi anta… Idi Hindenburg gadi expose..!!! Retail investors antha monday morning kosam ‘buy the sip’ kosam wait chestunte eedu sebi chairman donga panula gurinchi expose…!! Inkosari Hindenburg Research ante kodtaru public.. Arerere veedini nammukuni Maa Rahul Khan oka press conference plan chesukuni untaade! Addam mundu practice kuda chesi untaadu!! Nuvvu antha maata anoddanna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMaverick Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 9 hours ago, Konebhar6 said: Haha. Hindenburg has a good reputation. The best in the market at finding stuff like these. A company like Adani should stop resorting to these corrupt accounting practices. Those who are discounting Hindenburg needs to know what it did to adani stock. They lost close to 60-75% market cap. They did bounce. Back well. I do agree that Indian stock market dynamics have changed. There was a time FIIs used to determine market direction. Not any more. DIIs and retail investors have more control over market. Any weakness in stock, they will gobble up. I also read that reliance bought a lot of Adani stock during weakness last time. Neeku Accounting/Finance gurinchi telisthe maatlaadu! Enron scandal tho mottham America shake ayipoyindi....! FTX scam marichipoyava? Silicon Valley bank scam marichipoyava? Ivanni ninna gaaka monna vacchina scams e kada! Inthakanna mana desam lo kastho koostho nijayithi undi! America kaabatti anni savyamgaa untayannadi oka moorkhapu aalochana! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, CaptainMaverick said: Neeku Accounting/Finance gurinchi telisthe maatlaadu! Enron scandal tho mottham America shake ayipoyindi....! FTX scam marichipoyava? Silicon Valley bank scam marichipoyava? Ivanni ninna gaaka monna vacchina scams e kada! Inthakanna mana desam lo kastho koostho nijayithi undi! America kaabatti anni savyamgaa untayannadi oka moorkhapu aalochana! Telusu kabatte matlada. I am completely aware of Enron. You cannot compare FTX. It’s an unregulated industry. Hence discussions about having regulations there. Compare the number of companies and the size of companies in US and India and compare the fraud done. Then talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andhra_jp Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 Let’s take a deep dive into the structure of the supposed stake held by the SEBI chief: First, IIFL, now known as 360 Wealth Online, set up an offshore fund named “Global Opportunities Fund” (“GOF”), which was based in Bermuda, a tax-haven. Under the GOF, a sub-fund named “Global Dynamic Opportunities Fund” (“GDOF”) was registered. Hindenburg Research claimed that a company controlled by Gautam Adani’s brother, Vinod Adani, invested in this “GDOF”. "GDOF" invested the Adani group's siphoned funds in a sub-fund IPE Plus Fund, which is a small and obscure offshore fund registered in Mauritius, another tax haven, which then pooled the money into the domestic stock market and traded in Indian equities. The founder and Chief Investment Office of the IPE Plus Fund was Anil Ahuja, who was previously a director in both Adani Power and Adani Enterprises over the span of his career. So where does Madhabi Puri Buch’s involvement come in? According to whistleblower documents accessed by Hindenburg, “the current SEBI Chairperson and her husband, Dhaval Buch, had hidden stakes in the exact same obscure offshore Bermuda and Mauritius funds, found in the same complex nested structure, used by Vinod Adani.” SEBI chair Madhabi Buch and her husband Dhaval Buch likely opened their account with IPE Plus Fund on June 5, 2015 in Singapore, per whistleblower documents. According to a declaration of funds, signed by a principal at IIFL, the source of the couple’s investment is their salary, and their net worth is estimated at around $10 million. Ahead of Madhabi Puri Buch’s appointment to SEBI as a Whole Time Member, her husband Dhaval Buch, wrote to the Mauritius fund administrator, regarding their investment in Trident Trust, according to documents we received from a whistleblower. The email was “Global Dynamic Opportunities Fund”. The report said that Dhaval Buch requested to be the sole person authorised to operate the accounts, “seemingly moving the assets out of his wife’s name ahead of the politically sensitive appointment”. The total value of Buch’s stake was worth U.S. $872,762.25 at the time. The report further alleged that on February 25, 2018, while Buch held the position of a Whole-Time Member of SEBI, she emailed IIFL through her private account to redeem the units in the fund. “In brief, despite the existence of thousands of mainstream, reputable onshore Indian mutual fund products, an industry she now is responsible for regulating, documents show SEBI Chairperson Madhabi Buch and her husband had stakes in a multi-layered offshore fund structure with miniscule assets, traversing known high-risk jurisdictions, overseen by a company with reported ties to the Wirecard scandal, in the same entity run by an Adani director and significantly used by Vinod Adani in the alleged Adani cash siphoning scandal,” said the Hindenburg Group. “We suspect SEBI’s unwillingness to take meaningful action against suspect offshore shareholders in the Adani Group may stem from Chairperson Madhabi Buch’s complicity in using the exact same funds used by Vinod Adani, brother of Gautam Adani,” the report added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 Not much impact. Adani stocks fell though .. between 2-5%. Not the kind of impact Hindenburg expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollilolli2020 Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 On 8/10/2024 at 12:06 PM, Android_Halwa said: Paisal patukuni ready ga vunnaru vaa Indians…. Hindenburg gadu expose cheyagane konipadestaru… Eedu edo expose chestunna anukuntunadu…mana desigallu emo dorikinde chance buy the dip ani ready auitunaru…! India works very differently.. Hindenburg(not sure) gadu evadu memer ki negative post on adani and sebi este 5000 ista ani edo main pettadu ani reddit la circulate avtundii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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