True characterization of Lord Sri Krishna : An interesting read

[AndhraPickles]

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.387765

[AndhraPickles]

anyone..?

[alpachinao]

maha bharatham lo krushunudu vyasudu defined chala mandiki pramanikam

bhagavatham idi motham krishunudu life cild nunchi vuntundi

puranolo krishnudu diff la vuntadu purnalo ani stories konchem lite tesukovachu anataru

 

maha bharatam lo krish pramanikam enduku ante adi charithra ga bhavistham kabati

[jalsa01]

On 9/10/2024 at 5:45 AM, AndhraPickles said:

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.387765

Ennti e book?

[rational]

page 2

2nd paragraph

యునానీ (చైనా) రాయబారి మెగస్థనీస్‌ మధురా నగరమును వర్ణించుచు మధురవాసులు 'హిరాక్షీస్‌ ను పూజించుచుండిరని వ్రాసెను, ఆ హిరాక్టీస్‌ మరెవరో కాదు - శ్రీకృష్ణుడే. గ్రీకు భాషలో కృష్ణుని 'హిరాక్టీస్‌ అందురు. ఆ సమయమున “డయోనిసస్‌'అను రాజు యునాన్‌ను పాలించుచుండెను. యునాన్‌ రాయబారి భారతదేశమునకు చంద్రగుప్తుని కాలములో వచ్చెను. డయోనిసస్‌ నుండి చంద్రగుప్తుని వరకు 153 తరముల అంతరమున్నట్లు అతడు సాక్ష్యాధారములతో వ్రాసెను. ఆ డయోనిసస్‌ను శ్రీకృష్ణునికంటె 15 తరముల ముందువానినిగ చెప్పుచుందురు. ఈ విధముగ శ్రీకృష్ణుడు చంద్రగుప్తుని కంటె 153-15=138 తరముల ముందువాడు. చరిత్రకారుల లెక్కల ననుసరించి ప్రతి తరమునకు 20సం॥లు (సరాసరి) గ లెక్కించినచో 138%20=2760 సం॥లగును. చంద్రగుప్తుడు క్రీస్తుకంటె 312 సం॥లు పూర్వముండెను. ఇప్పుడు 1988 సం॥లో శ్రీకృష్ణుని పూర్తికాలము = 2760 + 312+1988=5060 సం॥లు. అనగా సుమారు 5వేల సంవత్సరాలై

yunani is not china, yunani/unani arabic term for unan/yunan which is old name for greece.

dyonisus was a god of wine in greek mythology 

there is also a tyrant dyonisus 1 who was born 430bc and died 367 bc 

chandra gupta maurya born 350 bc died 295 bc

ఆ డయోనిసస్‌ను శ్రీకృష్ణునికంటె 15 తరముల ముందువానినిగ చెప్పుచుందురు.

so if we take the actual tyrant dyonisus 1  in to consideration he lived when chandragupta was born so when did krishna come into the picture.

చరిత్రకారుల లెక్కల ననుసరించి ప్రతి తరమునకు 20సం॥లు (సరాసరి) గ లెక్కించినచో

how did they calculate it as 20 years, i thought తరము means one generation. 

[AndhraPickles]

2 hours ago, rational said:

page 2

2nd paragraph

యునానీ (చైనా) రాయబారి మెగస్థనీస్‌ మధురా నగరమును వర్ణించుచు మధురవాసులు 'హిరాక్షీస్‌ ను పూజించుచుండిరని వ్రాసెను, ఆ హిరాక్టీస్‌ మరెవరో కాదు - శ్రీకృష్ణుడే. గ్రీకు భాషలో కృష్ణుని 'హిరాక్టీస్‌ అందురు. ఆ సమయమున “డయోనిసస్‌'అను రాజు యునాన్‌ను పాలించుచుండెను. యునాన్‌ రాయబారి భారతదేశమునకు చంద్రగుప్తుని కాలములో వచ్చెను. డయోనిసస్‌ నుండి చంద్రగుప్తుని వరకు 153 తరముల అంతరమున్నట్లు అతడు సాక్ష్యాధారములతో వ్రాసెను. ఆ డయోనిసస్‌ను శ్రీకృష్ణునికంటె 15 తరముల ముందువానినిగ చెప్పుచుందురు. ఈ విధముగ శ్రీకృష్ణుడు చంద్రగుప్తుని కంటె 153-15=138 తరముల ముందువాడు. చరిత్రకారుల లెక్కల ననుసరించి ప్రతి తరమునకు 20సం॥లు (సరాసరి) గ లెక్కించినచో 138%20=2760 సం॥లగును. చంద్రగుప్తుడు క్రీస్తుకంటె 312 సం॥లు పూర్వముండెను. ఇప్పుడు 1988 సం॥లో శ్రీకృష్ణుని పూర్తికాలము = 2760 + 312+1988=5060 సం॥లు. అనగా సుమారు 5వేల సంవత్సరాలై

yunani is not china, yunani/unani arabic term for unan/yunan which is old name for greece.

dyonisus was a god of wine in greek mythology 

there is also a tyrant dyonisus 1 who was born 430bc and died 367 bc 

chandra gupta maurya born 350 bc died 295 bc

ఆ డయోనిసస్‌ను శ్రీకృష్ణునికంటె 15 తరముల ముందువానినిగ చెప్పుచుందురు.

so if we take the actual tyrant dyonisus 1  in to consideration he lived when chandragupta was born so when did krishna come into the picture.

చరిత్రకారుల లెక్కల ననుసరించి ప్రతి తరమునకు 20సం॥లు (సరాసరి) గ లెక్కించినచో

how did they calculate it as 20 years, i thought తరము means one generation. 

ee mixing and match of time and generations kaadu bro (around 5250 years a rough estimate)...

my intention is how a great personality like sri krishna was badly portrayed in the name of devotion.....this book clears all that portrayal... 

-"one point is he did tapasya with severe brahmacharya for 12 years only to get a boon to get a son"...but how some people portrayed him by attributing "leelalu" in the name of devotion.....

-how he tried till last minute to stop a war that ended up as a tragedy....the great war of times....indicating the karma is beyond God's incarnation....everyone should bow down to karmic times....

-how he paved way for pandavas victory by eliminating kuru allies one by one.....with a long term target.....

[AndhraPickles]

On 9/18/2024 at 8:24 PM, alpachinao said:

maha bharatham lo krushunudu vyasudu defined chala mandiki pramanikam

bhagavatham idi motham krishunudu life cild nunchi vuntundi

puranolo krishnudu diff la vuntadu purnalo ani stories konchem lite tesukovachu anataru

 

maha bharatam lo krish pramanikam enduku ante adi charithra ga bhavistham kabati

in my opinion Mahabharat is a standard documentation of sri krishnas life and times.......and this book reassures the same..each different angle of krishna....

others all are just poetic whims and fancies.....

[pizzaaddict]

Karna ni glorify cheyadam , ravna surudu ni glorify cheyadam, duryodhqnudu ni glorify cheyadam etc .  krishnudu meedha konni movies lo dilagues telisnavey ga . Glorify chesina vadi fans justification: different versions unnaye and they are valid antaru and glorify cheyadam coreect kadhu ani question chesey vallaki  knowledge ledhu antaru 

Garikiapati , chaganti etc krishnudu eppudu dharmam chesaru ani antaru.  

[paaparao]

5 minutes ago, AndhraPickles said:

-"one point is he did penace with severe brahmacharya for 12 years only to get a boon to get a son"...but how some people portrayed him by attributing "leelalu" in the name of devotion.....

 

penace ante artham enti ikkada?

[AndhraPickles]

3 minutes ago, paaparao said:

penace ante artham enti ikkada?

ade bro...tapasya..

time ki gurthu raaka edo enhlidh word vaadaale....bro

[rational]

18 hours ago, AndhraPickles said:

ee mixing and match of time and generations kaadu bro (around 5250 years a rough estimate)...

my intention is how a great personality like sri krishna was badly portrayed in the name of devotion.....this book clears all that portrayal... 

-"one point is he did tapasya with severe brahmacharya for 12 years only to get a boon to get a son"...but how some people portrayed him by attributing "leelalu" in the name of devotion.....

-how he tried till last minute to stop a war that ended up as a tragedy....the great war of times....indicating the karma is beyond God's incarnation....everyone should bow down to karmic times....

-how he paved way for pandavas victory by eliminating kuru allies one by one.....with a long term target.....

The author failed in the first few pages of getting the historical facts right, how can you believe what  he was saying about krishna  is right. 

"one point is he did tapasya with severe brahmacharya for 12 years only to get a boon to get a son"...but how some people portrayed him by attributing "leelalu" in the name of devotion.....

how can we come to conclusion that others who are attributing "leelalu| is wrong just because this author wrote other version of him. how do we define which author is right. 

around 5250 years a rough estimate

 if i take into ur calculations u will end up in early harappan Indus valley civilization which has nothing to do with krishna era.

[AndhraPickles]

5 minutes ago, rational said:

The author failed in the first few pages of getting the historical facts right, how can you believe what  he was saying about krishna  is right. 

"one point is he did tapasya with severe brahmacharya for 12 years only to get a boon to get a son"...but how some people portrayed him by attributing "leelalu" in the name of devotion.....

how can we come to conclusion that others who are attributing "leelalu| is wrong just because this author wrote other version of him. how do we define which author is right. 

around 5250 years a rough estimate

 if i take into ur calculations u will end up in early harappan Indus valley civilization which has nothing to do with krishna era.

the authors assessment is based on the mahabharata by great veda vyasa which is a gold standard in my opinion...

[rational]

23 minutes ago, AndhraPickles said:

Leela lu: Not mentioned in Mahabharata by veda vyasa whose depiction is gold standard...and the authors discussion is rational in the book...

5250 years: Nuvvu kavalante, nee rationale thinking tho each generation ki 50 years gap vesuko....I don't have any doubt....as I follow sringeri panchangam...

veda vyasa depiction is gold standard? but how? clearly if the above mention book author is rational he would have got the historical facts right. 

the author wrote it as "20 years is a generation" in the book i am pointing out he was wrong, why would i add 50 years gap with out actual evidence supporting it as 50 years. it has nothing to do with me adding or subtracting, we are just talking about what was written in the book. surely we cant blindly believe in anything written in a book.

i think there is Indian mythology and Indian history its unfortunate that most of them think both are same.

u mentioned sringeri panchangam i will look into that too and also gold standard u mentioned by veda vyasa depiction. will let you know my findings, if i miss anything i am willing to learn.

cheers

[AndhraPickles]

46 minutes ago, rational said:

veda vyasa depiction is gold standard? but how? clearly if the above mention book author is rational he would have got the historical facts right. 

the author wrote it as "20 years is a generation" in the book i am pointing out he was wrong, why would i add 50 years gap with out actual evidence supporting it as 50 years. it has nothing to do with me adding or subtracting, we are just talking about what was written in the book. surely we cant blindly believe in anything written in a book.

i think there is Indian mythology and Indian history its unfortunate that most of them think both are same.

u mentioned sringeri panchangam i will look into that too and also gold standard u mentioned by veda vyasa depiction. will let you know my findings, if i miss anything i am willing to learn.

cheers

aa pani chey...u will get lot of clarity..on timeline...

[AndhraPickles]

"20 years is a generation" may be he is taking reproductive age as a place holder between generations...