True characterization of Lord Sri Krishna : An interesting read

[rational]

For a brain which has to process sounds and differentiate it, understand the language grammar & replicate exactly the same with out a single error not even in a pitch, or hymn, or a single letter is highly impossible. that too repeating the same verses through generations without errors is impossible. He or she would be a computer rather than a person, as u know computer can record perfectly and play the same without any changes for generations as long it is well maintained.

Imagine a guru is sitting and chanting verses to his students and what are the chances that each of these students hear it accurately how guru pronounces and repeat it exactly the same. What if the student stops for few days when he is sick and restarts chanting do you think he would exactly repeat the same verses without any difference , what happens if the student relocated to a different place and couldn't get a chance to practice during travelling. could he replicate exactly the same verses?  the chances of happening it is zero. now try to extrapolate these kind of different scenarios for generations and u still expect to repeat the same vedas

Do you know when can he replicate? when he writes down what the master is saying and can carry with him and repeat it whenever he wants still there would be some mistakes but comparatively less than verbal transmission. verbal training and verbal transmission are not accurate thats one of the reason script is born. 

Regarding the video what swamji is saying "pedhalu cheppevaru, peddhalu soochincharu" ani chepthunnaru.This is called subjective experience and lack objective verification.  peddhalu okappudu amavasya roju chandrudu kanipinchakapothe paamu mingesindhi ani cheppevaru, Vallu chepparu kabatti adhi nijam bahusaa aa paamu invinsible mode lo vachi mingesthundhi emo andhuke kanipinchatledhu ani manam imagination loki vellathama?

I know how many yugas and what respective years they have, i just wanted to know how these years are calculated? what kind of formulas, gradient were used, etc. how did they come up with those exact numbers?

[AndhraPickles]

4 hours ago, rational said:

For a brain which has to process sounds and differentiate it, understand the language grammar & replicate exactly the same with out a single error not even in a pitch, or hymn, or a single letter is highly impossible. that too repeating the same verses through generations without errors is impossible. He or she would be a computer rather than a person, as u know computer can record perfectly and play the same without any changes for generations as long it is well maintained.

Imagine a guru is sitting and chanting verses to his students and what are the chances that each of these students hear it accurately how guru pronounces and repeat it exactly the same. What if the student stops for few days when he is sick and restarts chanting do you think he would exactly repeat the same verses without any difference , what happens if the student relocated to a different place and couldn't get a chance to practice during travelling. could he replicate exactly the same verses?  the chances of happening it is zero. now try to extrapolate these kind of different scenarios for generations and u still expect to repeat the same vedas

Do you know when can he replicate? when he writes down what the master is saying and can carry with him and repeat it whenever he wants still there would be some mistakes but comparatively less than verbal transmission. verbal training and verbal transmission are not accurate thats one of the reason script is born. 

Regarding the video what swamji is saying "pedhalu cheppevaru, peddhalu soochincharu" ani chepthunnaru.This is called subjective experience and lack objective verification.  peddhalu okappudu amavasya roju chandrudu kanipinchakapothe paamu mingesindhi ani cheppevaru, Vallu chepparu kabatti adhi nijam bahusaa aa paamu invinsible mode lo vachi mingesthundhi emo andhuke kanipinchatledhu ani manam imagination loki vellathama?

I know how many yugas and what respective years they have, i just wanted to know how these years are calculated? what kind of formulas, gradient were used, etc. how did they come up with those exact numbers?

adi grahanam gurinchi bro...amavasya kaadu...

paamu (rahu and kethu concepts of astrology) ani simple terms lo chepthe...negative effects ki bayapadi jagrattha ga intlo untarani cheppaaru...

 

[AndhraPickles]

 

[rational]

10 hours ago, AndhraPickles said:

adi grahanam gurinchi bro...amavasya kaadu...

paamu (rahu and kethu concepts of astrology) ani simple terms lo chepthe...negative effects ki bayapadi jagrattha ga intlo untarani cheppaaru...

 

ya ur right i got confused, but still my point is would you still have believe in it .

we just have enough evidence that its just an eclipse.

[rational]

10 hours ago, AndhraPickles said:

 

Now ur believing in nilesh oaks theory. this guy is saying that the time line of mahabarata and krishna u posted in previous posts is wrong.

Time Line of Lord Krishna

(An Excerpt from "Advancements of Ancient India’s Vedic Culture")

By Stephen Knapp

 

here is the link of his version of time line

https://nileshoak.wordpress.com/2018/09/12/on-the-chronology-of-mahabharata-war-5561-bce-vs-3067-bce-part-2/

Now who is right and who is wrong?? 

[AndhraPickles]

30 minutes ago, rational said:

Now ur believing in nilesh oaks theory. this guy is saying that the time line of mahabarata and krishna u posted in previous posts is wrong.

Time Line of Lord Krishna

(An Excerpt from "Advancements of Ancient India’s Vedic Culture")

By Stephen Knapp

 

here is the link of his version of time line

https://nileshoak.wordpress.com/2018/09/12/on-the-chronology-of-mahabharata-war-5561-bce-vs-3067-bce-part-2/

Now who is right and who is wrong?? 

okasaari aa interview mottham choodu...pedda archeogists kanipettina dwaraka correct kaadu....ani eeyana inko place map lo arrow vesi choopinchaadu.....research and conclusions change avuthaayi with time...

[rational]

31 minutes ago, AndhraPickles said:

okasaari aa interview mottham choodu...pedda archeogists kanipettina dwaraka correct kaadu....ani eeyana inko place map lo arrow vesi choopinchaadu.....research and conclusions change avuthaayi with time...

first thing, no archaeologists had proven dwaraka really existed, they searched based on texts and found nothing related to it. its the same guy claiming that ramayana happened 12000 years ago. if you actually read the ramayana (valmliki version) you will find versus mentioning about iron, about buddha, different types of kingdom existed during rama's rule and we have ample evidence when these things came.

iron age around 1200  BCE 

Buddha around 600 BCE

Chola kingdoms around 800 A.D

Read the actual ramayan not these guys version of stories if you find these evidences in the verses then you will get a good picture of when it is written.

[AndhraPickles]

6 hours ago, rational said:

first thing, no archaeologists had proven dwaraka really existed, they searched based on texts and found nothing related to it. its the same guy claiming that ramayana happened 12000 years ago. if you actually read the ramayana (valmliki version) you will find versus mentioning about iron, about buddha, different types of kingdom existed during rama's rule and we have ample evidence when these things came.

iron age around 1200  BCE 

Buddha around 600 BCE

Chola kingdoms around 800 A.D

Read the actual ramayan not these guys version of stories if you find these evidences in the verses then you will get a good picture of when it is written.

 

[rational]

16 hours ago, AndhraPickles said:

 

Dude did you even read the research papers i posted before, S.R. Rao's paper is one of them 

https://nopr.niscpr.res.in/bitstream/123456789/38461/1/IJMS 16(1) 22-30.pdf

here are his findings.

After fixing the base line along the cliff section in which structural remains of the early historic (1 to 7 century AD) and protohistoric (late 2hd millennium Be) periods were traceable 2 diving zones corresponding to 2 onshore sites BDK I and BDK II were marked by dropping marker buoys (Fig. 5). Preliminary exploration in low tide near BDK I has yielded Red Ware bowl of Late Harappan period in the intertidal zone. At lowestlow tide a massive wall of large building blocks of prismatic shape is found built on the wavecut bench. Two courses of the wall are in situ. The large building blocks are too massive to be moved by waves and currents and they are not derived from the disintegration of the local outcrops. Heaps of building blocks of large size, lying on the wavecut bench, clearly indicate that a large number of structures are destroyed and submerged by the sea. Smaller fraction building blocks of the same size and shape, as are used in the construction of the onshore wall',are found lying wavesorted. From the section of the wall, fragments of bowls and dishes of post-Harappan period (15-14th century Be) are also recovered. The wall on the wavecut bench which served as an anti-erosion wall is submerged under 3.6 m water depth. Originally the spring tide level must have been atleast 1.5 m below the wall. The net rise of 5.1 m in sea level during the last 3300 y is suggested by the submerged in situ wall on the wavecut bench ."

The wavecut bench is full of shingle and pebbles with small pockets of sand and silt. Below the overburden of sand is a compact layer of clayey silt containing worked columella and bangles of conch shell besides 2 chert blades, indicating Late Harappan occupation earlier than the wall on the wavecut bench. Among protohistoric antiquities found in the intertidal zone and the beach a coppersmith's stone mould (Fig. 6) and a few beads of fish bone and terracotta deserve mention. Similar stone moulds used for casting pins and chisels are found in Harappan sites."

And this is the new paper submitted in 2005 based on recent findings

https://drs.nio.res.in/drs/bitstream/handle/2264/507/Migration_Diffusion_6_56.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y#:~:text=THE FINDINGS off Dwarka include,area have been discussed here.

Based on these  findings they just concluded that small jetty was there nothing more than that. they did not find any big palace, any inscriptions, texts, coins, pottery, artifacts, that indicate to new civilization or related to krishna. whatever they found out all belonged to post harappan civilization.

This shows that u are not reading the actual research papers but seeing some videos and coming to conclusions. I request you to read these papers.

Hundreds of videos can be made because no one will question them, no authentication is required. you have to read what the author found out, u can get the actual information by reading the research papers they submit . once they submit, these paper it will be peer reviewed by experts in their field.

[rational]

 

 

LOL the gomphothere he mentioned with four tusks is around 23 mill years ago

if you look at the its evolutionary chart it later evolved into two tusks loosing its lower tusks and its called Cuvieronius which is the latest member of the gomphothere family and it looks like this

Gomphothere phylogeny (after Mothé et al. 2016^[1])

†Gomphotheriidae (Gomphotheres)

†Gomphotherium       †Gnathabelodon       †Eubelodon   Brevirostrine clade   †Stegomastodon       †Sinomastodon       †Notiomastodon       †Rhynchotherium     †Cuvieronius

 

3d rendering 

Many gomphotheres retained permanent premolar teeth^[3] though they were absent in some gomphothere genera.^[4] Earlier gomphotheres had lower jaws with an elongate mandibular symphysis and lower tusks, the primitive condition for members of Elephantimorpha. Later members developed shortened (brevirostrine) lower jaws and/or vestigial or no lower tusks, a convergent process that occurred multiple times among gomphotheres, as well as other members of Elephantimorpha.^[4] The incisors and long lower jaws of primitive gomphotheres were likely used for cutting vegetation, while brevirostrine gomphotheres relied on their trunks to acquire food similar to modern elephants

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomphothere

https://www.britannica.com/animal/gomphothere

https://typeset.io/topics/cuvieronius-eemivqya?paper_page=11

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Lower-tusks-of-Cuvieronius-Rhynchotherium-and-Gomphotherium-A-Radical-fragment-of-a_fig7_290379729

[rational]

I am not saying he needs a degree in archaeology or paleontology but a simple research would give him proper information. he is just cherry picking and connecting with Indian mythology and claiming that those are facts.

[rational]

"The rishis, measuring time, have given particular names to particular portions [of time]. Five and ten winks of the eye make what is called a Kastha. Thirty Kasthas make what is called a Kala. Thirty Kalas, with the tenth part of a Kala, make a Muhurta. Thirty Muhurtas make one day and night. Thirty days and nights form a month, and twelve months form a year. Persons well-read in mathematical science say that a year is made up of two solar motions, meaning the northern and southern. The sun makes the day and night for men. The night is for the sleep of all living creatures, and the day is for work. A month of human beings is equal to a day and night of the departed manes [ancestors who have gone on to the subtle worlds]. That division consists in this: the light half of the month is their day which is for work; and the dark fortnight is their night for sleep. A year (of men) is equal to a day and night to the gods [Devas or celestials]. This division consists in this: the half year for which the sun travels from the vernal to the autumnal equinox is the day of the gods, and the half year for which the sun moves from the latter to the former is their night. [Thus, an earth year is but a day for the Devas.] Calculating by the days and nights of human beings about which I have told you, I shall speak of the day and night of Brahma and his years also. I shall, in their order, tell you the number of years, that are for different purposes calculated differently, in the Krita, the Treta, the Dvapara, and the Kali yugas. Four thousand celestial years is the duration of the first or Krita age. The morning of that cycle consists of four hundred years and its evening is of four hundred years. [Note: This says celestial years, or years of the demigods on the higher planets. Such years are much longer than those of planet earth. So 4000 celestial years, with the morning or Sandhya of 400 celestial years and the evening or Sandhyansa, or intermediate period, of another 400 years equals 4800 celestial years or 1,728,000 human years.

https://stephen-knapp.com/timings_of_the_four_yugas.htm

this is the same author you posted before, talking about time line of yugas, look how yugas are calculated.

"The rishis, measuring time, have given particular names to particular portions [of time]. Five and ten winks of the eye make what is called a Kastha."

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calculating the time using the eye winks is one of the dumbest way

 

 

 

[AndhraPickles]

 

[rational]

 

Yugas gurinchi edho chepparu kaani ela vachhayo explanation ekkada undhi. ekkda rayaledhu antunnaru, rayanappudu veellaki ela thelisindhi evaro rushi chepparu anukundam but how come that rushi know, vellaki cross check chesukovali anipinchaledha?? 

4:32 Chaganti

vedam - sakala vidyala, sarva avasthala, sarvakalala, sathya vidyala pustakam aithe dantlo history undadu

why history is the only education missing any reason ?, history is also one type of study, which gives some information about our past. how did he come to know that history is missing. 

according to him Vedam means complete knowledge or wisdom of all arts , then history of knowing how our ancestors survived ,lived, evolved etc also comes under some wisdom thats how humanity evolved learning from our ancestors mistakes. history is core information that made us what we are.

every education in so called vedam that he is talking about has some kind of history. example if chemistry is in vedam then its has a history how it evolved, 

Even vedam that he is mentioning also has history of how it came into existence.

5:53 

chaganti - vidhyalu matuku bhootha bavishya varthamanakala vidyalu vedam lo unnai. rabaoye vidyalu, poorvakalam vidyalu. ippudu ee vidyalu avi anni kooda andhulo unnai 

ela cheppagaluguthunnadu?  ante ippudu  AI gurinchi kooda vundi antunnara? ee vedaalalo ee slokam lo rasundu chepthe nerchukuntaanu.

4.46 daggara emo history undadu andtunnaru, 5:53 daggara emo pooravakalam vidalyuntai antunnaru. that means there is some kind of history in vedas about vidya he is mentioning.

did he just debunk his own theory that history doesnt  exists in vedas.

8:30

chaganti devude shrusti chesaadu kabatti, shrusti lo aayana ivvagaligithene manaku oka basha vasthundhi

LOL! why didnt god give us just one language all over the world so we can communicate better. why complicate things.  because it didnt happen that way. language started as primitive communication by just making sounds and later on evolved into current form depending on various factors and locations.

 23:21 chaganti --- gummadikaya gujju bayata plate lo pettinappati nunchi boddinkalu mayamaipoyaayi

here is the video of coackroaches eating pumpkin pulp

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RY8BLVaFVg8https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q_YJDXiQsjw

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Bl_Z_32ErgI

sure there must be different reason for disappearance of cockroaches. may be fumigation he did before.

There are many illogical explanations he made. i will post them later.

[rational]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMT6sbWv9g

yagnaalu yagaalatho hurricane ni complete gaa mitigate chesthaaru anta chaganti gaaru. look how stupid it sounds.