Sam480 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 8 hours ago, futureofandhra said: this should happen Religion+Govt = Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11_MohanReddy Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 2 hours ago, socrates said: not making sense at all Muslims discriminate women and not let them enter mosques. Why are you speaking about social justice about Hinduism and not Muslims/Christians when Muslims and Christians discriminate. What is the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 1 minute ago, 11_MohanReddy said: Muslims discriminate women and not let them enter mosques are you sure about this? 2 minutes ago, 11_MohanReddy said: Why are you speaking about social justice about Hinduism and not Muslims/Christians when Muslims and Christians discriminate. What is the difference? because of in front of god every one same, if any religion is against to that its not religion thats what in old days annamayya, ramanujachari..etc fought for, so as per your logic they were wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11_MohanReddy Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 Just now, socrates said: are you sure about this? because of in front of god every one same, if any religion is against to that its not religion thats what in old days annamayya, ramanujachari..etc fought for, so as per your logic they were wrong? Not just Muslims, even Christians. There is discrimination in both religions but you're not taking social justice here because their religious bodies are not under the Government. Why are you talking about social justice in Hinduism? Because government controls them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 13 minutes ago, 11_MohanReddy said: 16 minutes ago, socrates said: Not just Muslims, even Christians. There is discrimination in both religions This is how the entire narrative goes sideways. Instead of addressing our own wrongdoings, everything is blamed on Muslims and Christians. If you read my first post carefully, my question was very clear: If temples are under private ownership, will they allow Dalits? You didn’t answer that, but instead pointed out that there is discrimination in both Islam and Christianity as well. While I acknowledge that every religion has some form of discrimination, including among Muslims and Christians, but they do not restrict access to mosques or churches. but what i understand is your are a vehemently supporting banning dalits entering into the temple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 22 minutes ago, 11_MohanReddy said: Muslims discriminate women and not let them enter mosques can you provide a source for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMalodu Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 34 minutes ago, socrates said: are you sure about this? because of in front of god every one same, if any religion is against to that its not religion thats what in old days annamayya, ramanujachari..etc fought for, so as per your logic they were wrong? Who is that God? Does he decide or does the rest decides on behalf him/her/whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMalodu Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 12 minutes ago, socrates said: This is how the entire narrative goes sideways. Instead of addressing our own wrongdoings, everything is blamed on Muslims and Christians. If you read my first post carefully, my question was very clear: If temples are under private ownership, will they allow Dalits? You didn’t answer that, but instead pointed out that there is discrimination in both Islam and Christianity as well. While I acknowledge that every religion has some form of discrimination, including among Muslims and Christians, but they do not restrict access to mosques or churches. but what i understand is your are a vehemently supporting banning dalits entering into the temple How did you conclude that they will be excluded from temple entry, if temples are under non government ownership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chammakchandra Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 11 hours ago, socrates said: but i have one question Temples are now under government control, but we still see news of Dalits being banned or stopped from entering temples across the nation. If so-called demands, such as freeing temples from government control, are implemented, under whose control will they fall? Will these incidents of Dalits being barred from entering stop or increase? I am not sure why they didn’t implement for m a s j I d s … govt should take them over too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said: How did you conclude that they will be excluded from temple entry, if temples are under non government ownership? i am not deciding, i raised the question fir better clarity please check my first post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, chammakchandra said: I am not sure why they didn’t implement for m a s j I d s … govt should take them over too who is they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 7 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said: Who is that God? Does he decide or does the rest decides on behalf of them? i mean any god depends on their beliefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chammakchandra Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, socrates said: who is they? Govt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11_MohanReddy Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 24 minutes ago, socrates said: This is how the entire narrative goes sideways. Instead of addressing our own wrongdoings, everything is blamed on Muslims and Christians. If you read my first post carefully, my question was very clear: If temples are under private ownership, will they allow Dalits? You didn’t answer that, but instead pointed out that there is discrimination in both Islam and Christianity as well. While I acknowledge that every religion has some form of discrimination, including among Muslims and Christians, but they do not restrict access to mosques or churches. but what i understand is your are a vehemently supporting banning dalits entering into the temple My point is you have no right in saying who can and cannot enter temples. Social Justice has place in the Government, not in religion. They can prevent dalits or brahmins. But at the end of the day, social justice has no place in religion. I am just telling you to stop preaching. You don't own temples, neither should the Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureofandhra Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, Sam480 said: Religion+Govt = Chaos Rules should be same for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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