India says no auction of satellite spectrum after Musk decries move

[Mancode]

better vidu vasthe jio rates inka padthai 

jio is cheapest still

the main criminals are airtel and others

[enigmatic]

3 hours ago, paaparao said:

they killed BSNL.

no one killed BSNL. it was a already dead or was in the process long before. always behind the curve, bureaucratic hurdles, delayed investment , delayed decisions in technology adoption and mainly terrible customer service. 

[lollilolli2020]

1 hour ago, Android_Halwa said:

Auction : set of condition put forth by the government and usually a bidding system and who ever qualifies and offers best price will be allotted the spectrum. 
 

Administrative route : Government committee will evaluate and award the tender to highly qualified, experienced participant. Usually ‘Manalni evadra apedi, idantha manade” type…Example: Norman Foster, Singapore Consortium..

adi telsu; auction ki Musk no ani cheppindu but happy with administrative route; 
administrative route lo kuda Ambani ke benefit kada him being close to govt. 

[pichukgudu]

“For satcom, spectrum will be allocated administratively… that does not mean that spectrum does not come without a cost. What that cost is and what the formula of that costing is going to be… will be decided by the TRAI,” Scindia said during a press briefing at the India Mobile Congress.

“Satellite spectrum across the world is allocated administratively. So India is not doing anything different from the rest of the world. Conversely, if you do decide to auction it, then you will be doing something which is different from the rest of the world… Satellite spectrum is shared spectrum. If spectrum is shared, then how can you price it individually,” he added.

Source: https://indianexpress.com/article/business/economy/india-to-allot-satellite-internet-spectrum-via-administrative-method-says-telecom-minister-jyotiraditya-scindia-9622094/

[johnydanylee]

Edo 20% data extra than competition for same price

No charge for calls 

ani edo annadu anukunta ambani babai starting lo

 

 

[pichukgudu]

Elon Musk has long been eyeing the Indian market for Starlink, his satellite internet venture. Starlink aims to offer high-speed internet in remote and underserved areas by deploying a large constellation of low-earth orbit (LEO) satellites. Musk believes that the administrative allocation of spectrum will help accelerate Starlink’s entry into India and improve internet access in regions where traditional telecom infrastructure is lacking.

The administrative allocation approach, widely adopted by countries across the globe, enables companies like Starlink to operate without the burden of hefty auction fees. This approach is considered more conducive for expanding satellite-based services, which are crucial for connecting areas with limited access to traditional broadband networks.

Source: https://www.indiatoday.in/business/story/elon-musk-no-spectrum-auction-much-appreciated-telecom-minister-jyotiraditya-scindia-2617679-2024-10-16

[Anta Assamey]

Someone clarify this to me -

I know both spectrums are different but ...

When 2G...3G...spectrum were allocated without bidding... It was considered a scam...Where Congress was torn apart by BJP...

Mari ippudu enti ila without bidding... Am I missing something...

[Android_Halwa]

56 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

Matter edainaa ni “Aavu vyaasam “ story thiskostavu 😁

Clear examples tho chepakapothey pejanikam ki ardam kaadu kada…a examples kuda sendranna chesinavi aithe inka baaga ardam avutayi…

Norman Foster, Singapore Consortium ante andaru gurtupadtaru…edo confort kosam anthe..!! 

[pichukgudu]

3 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said:

Someone clarify this to me -

I know both spectrums are different but ...

When 2G...3G...spectrum were allocated without bidding... It was considered a scam...Where Congress was torn apart by BJP...

Mari ippudu enti ila without bidding... Am I missing something...

Spectrum allocation controversies in India

India’s approach to spectrum allocation has been marred by controversies, particularly with the shift from auction-based allocations to administrative assignments. This debate stems from past scandals, including the infamous 2G spectrum scam.

The 2G scam involved allocating licences on a first-come, first-served basis, leading to massive financial losses and legal actions against several officials. It pertains to the alleged loss to the exchequer of Rs 30,984 crore and a presumptive loss of Rs 1.76 trillion in the allocation of 122 2G licences to telecom companies.

In 2012, the Supreme Court mandated auctions as the preferred method for spectrum allocation, a decision heavily influenced by the fallout from the 2G scandal. These events have significantly shaped public perception and regulatory frameworks around spectrum management in India.

However, the Telecommunications Act 2023 provided a non-auction route for the allocation of satellite spectrum.

[lollilolli2020]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

Clear examples tho chepakapothey pejanikam ki ardam kaadu kada…a examples kuda sendranna chesinavi aithe inka baaga ardam avutayi…

Norman Foster, Singapore Consortium ante andaru gurtupadtaru…edo confort kosam anthe..!! 

nenu gurthupattale first comment needi ani chadivaka idi moon babu taluka example ani ardam ayindii 

[Android_Halwa]

52 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

adi telsu; auction ki Musk no ani cheppindu but happy with administrative route; 
administrative route lo kuda Ambani ke benefit kada him being close to govt. 

auction way lo velthe competition vuntadi, esp Indian air waves are very expensive and companies like Vodafone/Docomo etc chetulu lepesnayi ie auction fees mana valla kaadu ani…Only Ambani/Mittal has the capacity to spend on auction and still make money out of it. Airtel/Jio will participate in auction and duopoly chesukuntaru, manam emana vunte bayata chusukundam kani third person ki chance ivodhu ani..

Ade allotment method aithe fixed price, entry criteria match chesthe evadi degara a technology vunte vallu license teesukovachu…that will again over crowd the existing sprctrum. Like 3g era, oka circle la 10’s of players vuntaru..

[Anta Assamey]

8 minutes ago, pichukgudu said:

Spectrum allocation controversies in India

India’s approach to spectrum allocation has been marred by controversies, particularly with the shift from auction-based allocations to administrative assignments. This debate stems from past scandals, including the infamous 2G spectrum scam.

The 2G scam involved allocating licences on a first-come, first-served basis, leading to massive financial losses and legal actions against several officials. It pertains to the alleged loss to the exchequer of Rs 30,984 crore and a presumptive loss of Rs 1.76 trillion in the allocation of 122 2G licences to telecom companies.

In 2012, the Supreme Court mandated auctions as the preferred method for spectrum allocation, a decision heavily influenced by the fallout from the 2G scandal. These events have significantly shaped public perception and regulatory frameworks around spectrum management in India.

However, the Telecommunications Act 2023 provided a non-auction route for the allocation of satellite spectrum.

idi ekkada comedy....

Auction ledu ani BJP vallu Congress scam chesindi ani country mottam racha chesi...

Ippudu subram ga Act okati techukoni malli ade pani chestunara...

 

Just now read this comedy ...However, in April 2024, the Union government filed an application to modify the 2012 verdict by Supreme Court ...

Calling @bhaigan

[Android_Halwa]

11 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said:

Someone clarify this to me -

I know both spectrums are different but ...

When 2G...3G...spectrum were allocated without bidding... It was considered a scam...Where Congress was torn apart by BJP...

Mari ippudu enti ila without bidding... Am I missing something...

Previously when soectrum was allocated, beneficiary rules were very lax and easy…companies which were literally inexistent had no background in telecom operations also participated and won the licenses..

Literally DB Telecom, Swan Telecom, and few others which were merely real estate and construction companies, corporate lobbying companies etc participated and won the licenses for pow price. These companies in turn sold the licenses or merged/joint venture  with actual telecom companies like Vodafone, Telenor, MTS, Etisalat, Aircel etc. 

Idi problem. Deeni valle 2g spectrum allication scam modalu ayindi.

Latest laws prakaram, participating criteria is now clearly laid out like number of years in business, technical specifications, capability etc…so that only qualified players get the allotment.

Auction method proved very expensive for companies so much so that 90% of the players have exited the market because they couldn't afford to pay the fees. All of them either sold or merged their companies to three players in the market now.

[Anta Assamey]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

Previously when soectrum was allocated, beneficiary rules were very lax and easy…companies which were literally inexistent had no background in telecom operations also participated and won the licenses..

Literally DB Telecom, Swan Telecom, and few others which were merely real estate and construction companies, corporate lobbying companies etc participated and won the licenses for pow price. These companies in turn sold the licenses or merged/joint venture  with actual telecom companies like Vodafone, Telenor, MTS, Etisalat, Aircel etc. 

Idi problem. Deeni valle 2g spectrum allication scam modalu ayindi.

Latest laws prakaram, participating criteria is now clearly laid out like number of years in business, technical specifications, capability etc…so that only qualified players get the allotment.

Auction method proved very expensive for companies so much so that 90% of the players have exited the market because they couldn't afford to pay the fees. All of them either sold or merged their companies to three players in the market now.

Red part ardam kaledu... 

You are saying first come first at that point of time lo small companies came with less money to the government and took the spectrum license and sold or merged with big companies for higher price antunavu...So government would have got that higher amount... That is the scam.. did I get it right..

[pichukgudu]

15 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said:

idi ekkada comedy....

Auction ledu ani BJP vallu Congress scam chesindi ani country mottam racha chesi...

Ippudu subram ga Act okati techukoni malli ade pani chestunara...

 

Just now read this comedy ...However, in April 2024, the Union government filed an application to modify the 2012 verdict by Supreme Court ...

Calling @bhaigan

Bro .. there is a difference .. India is a member of ITU & signatory to that treaty where satellite spectrum is considered to be a shared & limited natural resource.

Musk's Starlink argues administrative allotment of licences is in line with a global trend, while India's Reliance, led by billionaire Mukesh Ambani, says an auction is needed to ensure a level playing field and as there are no provisions in Indian law on how individuals can be provided satellite broadband services.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/musk-reacts-ambani-lobbying-calls-any-india-move-auction-satellite-spectrum-2024-10-15/