C-TANA - Christian Telugu Association of North America

[Teluguredu]

3 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Yes, that's right. But in general all religions are like that. Islam is expansionist as well. Hinduism is not non violent. It's has its own expansionist tendency too. But it's confined mostly to Asia and South East Asia.  There was a lot of transfer of Hindu knowledge philosophy to the west  (Mediterranean) in ancient Greece and to Persia. It's said that Alexandria library used to have a lot of Hindu texts. The undivided India way before was very rich in civilization, art and culture which is why I think the rulers didn't seem bent on expanding westwards. That also appears the reasons by West including moslems and Christians wanted to trade and then eventually challenge, and conquer undivided India through all the means available.

When greek empire came to india , india didn't have a proper writing system .whatever texts are present in reference to india are written by greek journalists based on their experiences, they are not hindu texts.

[Gaali_Gottam_Govinda]

1 hour ago, appusri said:

Adhi okay. Christian Reddys ki oka association undhi.

American Telugu Reddy Catholic Association | ATRCA

https://atrca.org/

Christian + Reddy + Catholic ayyi undaali. Christianity ki convert ayyaka kooda ee caste tag ento.

 

 

Are some Reddys really Reddys caste..... chaala cases lo Reddys untadi last name but when u ask their caste it is different....... India lo ne most ugly set of people I have noticed are Telugu and Tamil Christians.....Only Kerala and Goa christians choodaneeki konchem baaguntaru......... ee Telugu Christians Faces lo chaala mandiki they lack like a Soul or something...... may be aa attire or customs

[Teluguredu]

3 minutes ago, Gaali_Gottam_Govinda said:

 

Are some Reddys really Reddys caste..... chaala cases lo Reddys untadi last name but when u ask their caste it is different....... India lo ne most ugly set of people I have noticed are Telugu and Tamil Christians.....Only Kerala and Goa christians choodaneeki konchem baaguntaru......... ee Telugu Christians Faces lo chaala mandiki they lack like a Soul or something...... may be aa attire or customs

Reddy in surname without title reddy - high chance they belong other caste like BC or kamma or kaapu.

Title reddy unte 95% reddy caste.

[CanadianMalodu]

52 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

When greek empire came to india , india didn't have a proper writing system .whatever texts are present in reference to india are written by greek journalists based on their experiences, they are not hindu texts.

That's nonsense. Alexander invasion happened somewhere in 300's BC. Sanskrit predates it by at least more than 1200 years. 

[CanadianMalodu]

10 minutes ago, Gaali_Gottam_Govinda said:

 

Are some Reddys really Reddys caste..... chaala cases lo Reddys untadi last name but when u ask their caste it is different....... India lo ne most ugly set of people I have noticed are Telugu and Tamil Christians.....Only Kerala and Goa christians choodaneeki konchem baaguntaru......... ee Telugu Christians Faces lo chaala mandiki they lack like a Soul or something...... may be aa attire or customs

The Christians in Kerala have genetic mix of Middle eastern blood. Read about Syrian Christians. Then there a some conversions of upper castes like namboothiris, Kshtriya conversions are intermingling among them. Similar story in Goa 

[Teluguredu]

5 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

That's nonsense. Alexander invasion happened somewhere in 300's BC. Sanskrit predates it by more than 1200 years. 

It was an oral language not a written one.

[appusri]

2 minutes ago, Gaali_Gottam_Govinda said:

 

Are some Reddys really Reddys caste..... chaala cases lo Reddys untadi last name but when u ask their caste it is different....... India lo ne most ugly set of people I have noticed are Telugu and Tamil Christians.....Only Kerala and Goa christians choodaneeki konchem baaguntaru......... ee Telugu Christians Faces lo chaala mandiki they lack like a Soul or something...... may be aa attire or customs

Edhi ayina..Catholic Reddys association ante avi anni em thelusthadhi?

About your comment regarding Kerala and Goa Christians baguntaaru comment - Kerala, Goa Christians original gaa Brahmins. Kerala Christians lo majority Nambudiri Brahmins. Both Kerala, Goa Christians lo those converted brahmins still maintain their caste like Reddys Catholics. Konani, Mangolorian brahmins kooda unnaru Christians ga covert ayyinavaallalo. Veellandaraki edho short name undhi RomCom lekka RomBram, Bomman. Andhra, Tamil Nadu lo covery ayinavaallu SC/STs due to social injustice..temples ki raanivvaru. So..they need their own religious identity (its tribal mentality in humanity due to evolution)

Chala mandhiki theliyandhi. India lo South/West lo Christians ga first convert ayyindhi Brahmins. Alane north lo (primarily  in Pakistan) Muslims gaa covert ayina vaallu kooda Brahmins ne.

 

[CanadianMalodu]

7 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

It was an oral language not a written one.

How old do you think Telugu is and how old do you think Telugu script is ?

[Teluguredu]

4 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

The Christians in Kerala have genetic mix of Middle eastern blood. Read about Syrian Christians. Then there a some conversions of upper castes like namboothiris, Kshtriya conversions are intermingling among them. Similar story in Goa 

Not only christians ,even  Hindus have ,it mostly depends on whether their family has interacted with the Arab traders than religion but i think some muslims might have more ME blood in proportion.

[Teluguredu]

2 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

How old do you think Telugu and how old do you think Telugu script is ?

Difficult to age spoken language as it keeps evolving and exact split point of a language is difficult to say in case of spoken language as we won't have much evidence.but some prediction models have put it around 1500-1000 bce to when proto telugu has split from proto-dravidian

Telugu script was first used during ishvaku times in mix with prakrit ,I think first pure telugu script was used by renati cholas around 500-600 ce.they were the first to give importance to telugu as an administrative language.

 

[CanadianMalodu]

7 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Not only christians ,even  Hindus have ,it mostly depends on whether their family has interacted with the Arab traders than religion but i think some muslims might have more ME blood in proportion.

Most of the Muslims came from direct conversions in Kerala. Further spikes came after Mooplah riots, which is sort of forceful mass conversion events that involves killings, looting , rape similar ones like in Kashmir.

[CanadianMalodu]

16 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Not only christians ,even  Hindus have ,it mostly depends on whether their family has interacted with the Arab traders than religion but i think some muslims might have more ME blood in proportion.

 

[CanadianMalodu]

3 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Difficult to age spoken language as it keeps evolving and exact split point of a language is difficult to say in case of spoken language as we won't have much evidence.but some prediction models have put it around 1500-1000 bce to when proto telugu has split from proto-dravidian

Telugu script was first used during ishvaku times in mix with prakrit ,I think first pure telugu script was used by renati cholas around 500-600 ce.they were the first to give importance to telugu as an administrative language.

 

If the script of Sanskrit isn't just as old or even older than proto-telugu or proto-dravidian, then it doesn't make sense logically to develop entirely different looking one instead of relying on the likes of proto Telugu.

You don't  see any influence of Telugu or Sanskrit on each others scripts like that of North Indian languages whose script is based on Sanskrit.

[Teluguredu]

3 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

If the script of Sanskrit isn't just as old or even older than proto-telugu or proto-dravidian, then it doesn't make sense logically to develop entirely different looking one instead of relying on the likes of proto Telugu.

You don't  see any influence of Telugu or Sanskrit on each others scripts like that of North Indian languages whose script is based on Sanskrit.

Scripts that we use didn't evolve independently in south asia ,the only independant script in ivc script but we have lost it and it hasn't been deciphered even till now.

 

All scripts come from brahmi script which comes from aramic writing system.

Brahmi script came to india as aramic which came from middle east ,most probably through sea trade seeing how tamil literature was the earliest in India.or it might have been spread through both sea routes and land routes at a similar period.