Why are Indian Men FAT ?

[lollilolli2020]

8 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Appudu pellam ki MS kurrodu line vestharu.

vallu kuda gantha ki tagga bontha lekka vunnaru emo; if you are sedentary mostly like your partners would be same too. 

[Teluguredu]

9 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Calorie consumption is different from protein consumption. Carbs and fat sources can be calories too. Even for a vegan he or she can get good amount of protein (slight variation in Aminoacid profile). Even then, you can substitute it with Milk, Paneer and Yoghurt which makes the AA profile complete.  

Yes , I am talking about baseline recommended level which is 0.8 g .which means a 70 kg guy needs to eat 56 grams of protein.

Milk ,cashews,almonds etc.. are just complements to main protein sources like eggs/ chicken . Your diet needs to be very specific if you want to get all around nutrition using a veg diet which is not realistic for many working people.

[CanadianMalodu]

23 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Yes , I am talking about baseline recommended level which is 0.8 g .which means a 70 kg guy needs to eat 56 grams of protein.

Milk ,cashews,almonds etc.. are just complements to main protein sources like eggs/ chicken . Your diet needs to be very specific if you want to get all around nutrition using a veg diet which is not realistic for many working people.

What do mean by main source and complementary source? So long as there is no difference in the Amino acid profile, there is practically no functional difference. You can easily fill those needs with nuts, Panner, milk and lentils.

You need necessarily have to eat a lot of meat. Now I eat a lot of meat myself because I like it. But anything other than goat meat is processed or adulterated to a large extent and I don't think, it's even worth eating any more. Relatively speaking as I said above the vegan +milk protein seems better for the body. 

[Teluguredu]

3 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

What do mean my main source and complementary source? So long as there is no difference in the Amino acid profile, there is practically no difference.  You can easily fill those needs with nuts, Panner, milk and lentils.

You need necessarily have to eat a lot of meat. Now I eat a lot of meat myself because I like it. But anything other than goat meat is processed or adulterated to a large extent and I don't think, it's even worth eating any more. Relatively speaking as I said above the vegan +milk protein seems better for the body. 

Main source has high amount of protein per calorie like chicken /fish to get as many nutrients in Ladd less calories as possible and you can use almonds / cashews/ milk to complete your requirement.

[lollilolli2020]

8 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Yes , I am talking about baseline recommended level which is 0.8 g .which means a 70 kg guy needs to eat 56 grams of protein.

Milk ,cashews,almonds etc.. are just complements to main protein sources like eggs/ chicken . Your diet needs to be very specific if you want to get all around nutrition using a veg diet which is not realistic for many working people.

milk cashews, almonds, dal, yoghurt, beans, veggies mix and match cheste enduku kadu 56 gms of protein. I agree to your point though, if you eat non veg you don't have to look elsewhere as they are complete proteins. naa point aithe we are carb heavy and portion control ledu on top of it we are not hitting daily protein. infact protein toh satiety easy where as to get same level of satiety we need to eat lot of carbs andulonu mana diets lo no fiber. 
 

Breakfast

• Greek Yogurt (1 cup) with Chia Seeds (2 tablespoons): 20 grams of protein
  • Greek Yogurt: 10 grams
  • Chia Seeds: 4.7 grams

Snack

• Almonds (1 ounce): 6 grams of protein

Lunch

• Quinoa Salad (1 cup of cooked quinoa) with Mixed Beans (1 cup of cooked mixed beans): 23 grams of protein
  • Quinoa: 8 grams
  • Mixed Beans (like kidney beans, black beans): 15 grams

Snack

• Hummus (3 tablespoons) with Vegetable Sticks: 3 grams of protein
  • Hummus: 3 grams

Dinner

• Stir-Fry with Tofu (200 grams of firm tofu) and Vegetables: 20 grams of protein
  • Tofu: 20 grams

Total: 72.7 grams of protein

This example provides a bit more than the 56 grams target, offering flexibility and ensuring you meet your protein needs.

[Teluguredu]

1 minute ago, lollilolli2020 said:

milk cashews, almonds, dal, yoghurt, beans, veggies mix and match cheste enduku kadu 56 gms of protein. I agree to your point though, if you eat non veg you don't have to look elsewhere as they are complete proteins. naa point aithe we are carb heavy and portion control ledu on top of it we are not hitting daily protein. infact protein toh satiety easy where as to get same level of satiety we need to eat lot of carbs andulonu mana diets lo no fiber. 
 

Breakfast

• Greek Yogurt (1 cup) with Chia Seeds (2 tablespoons): 20 grams of protein
  • Greek Yogurt: 10 grams
  • Chia Seeds: 4.7 grams

Snack

• Almonds (1 ounce): 6 grams of protein

Lunch

• Quinoa Salad (1 cup of cooked quinoa) with Mixed Beans (1 cup of cooked mixed beans): 23 grams of protein
  • Quinoa: 8 grams
  • Mixed Beans (like kidney beans, black beans): 15 grams

Snack

• Hummus (3 tablespoons) with Vegetable Sticks: 3 grams of protein
  • Hummus: 3 grams

Dinner

• Stir-Fry with Tofu (200 grams of firm tofu) and Vegetables: 20 grams of protein
  • Tofu: 20 grams

Total: 72.7 grams of protein

This example provides a bit more than the 56 grams target, offering flexibility and ensuring you meet your protein needs.

See you still need to use artificial sources like tofu .

It's not because they are complete or incomplete it's because protein per calories is very high in veg diets.

Take cashews ,you need to eat 2.5 times amount of calories when compared to  chicken to get the same amount of protein.

It's mostly th same with all veg diets unless they are artificial like soya.

[CanadianMalodu]

2 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Main source has high amount of protein per calorie like chicken /fish to get as many nutrients in Ladd less calories as possible and you can use almonds / cashews/ milk to complete your requirement.

Per calorie need not be the bar. Your intake can be based on your needs. The problem with standardization is one size doesn't fit all.

If someone consumes higher calories with higher protein yet fills his body needs. What the issue?

[lollilolli2020]

3 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

See you still need to use artificial sources like tofu .

It's not because they are complete or incomplete it's because protein per calories is very high in veg diets.

Take cashews ,you need to eat 2.5 times amount of calories when compared to  chicken to get the same amount of protein.

It's mostly th same with all veg diets unless they are artificial like soya.

anna you are making it non-veg vs Veg but inherent goal is to hit daily recommended protein, I am okay with which either of the ways to achieve it, but  if you say only animal source is the way, I beg to differ. 

Sure! Let's calculate the approximate calorie content of the example diet provided and then suggest replacements with more natural sources while still meeting the 56 grams of protein requirement.

Calorie Content Calculation

Here's the breakdown of the approximate calorie content for the given foods:

Breakfast

• Greek Yogurt (1 cup, around 245 grams): 150 calories
• Chia Seeds (2 tablespoons, around 28 grams): 140 calories

Snack

• Almonds (1 ounce, around 28 grams): 160 calories

Lunch

• Quinoa (1 cup, cooked, around 185 grams): 222 calories
• Mixed Beans (1 cup, cooked, around 172 grams): 240 calories

Snack

• Hummus (3 tablespoons, around 45 grams): 70 calories
• Vegetable Sticks (carrots, celery, etc., around 100 grams): 40 calories

Dinner

• Firm Tofu (200 grams): 160 calories
• Vegetables (mixed stir-fry, around 200 grams): 80 calories

Total Calories

Total: 1,262 calories

Replacing with More Natural Sources

Let's replace some items with more natural whole food sources and recalculate the protein and calories:

Breakfast

• Oatmeal (1 cup cooked) with Flax Seeds (2 tablespoons)
  • Oatmeal: 6 grams of protein, 150 calories
  • Flax Seeds: 3 grams of protein, 110 calories
  • Total: 9 grams of protein, 260 calories

Snack

• Edamame (1 cup, cooked, around 155 grams): 17 grams of protein, 188 calories

Lunch

• Lentil Salad (1 cup cooked lentils with vegetables)
  • Lentils: 18 grams of protein, 230 calories
  • Vegetables (around 100 grams): 40 calories
  • Total: 18 grams of protein, 270 calories

Snack

• Pumpkin Seeds (1 ounce, around 28 grams): 7 grams of protein, 126 calories

Dinner

• Chickpea and Vegetable Stir-Fry (1 cup cooked chickpeas with vegetables)
  • Chickpeas: 15 grams of protein, 210 calories
  • Vegetables (around 200 grams): 80 calories
  • Total: 15 grams of protein, 290 calories

Recalculated Total

• Breakfast: 9 grams of protein, 260 calories
• Snack: 17 grams of protein, 188 calories
• Lunch: 18 grams of protein, 270 calories
• Snack: 7 grams of protein, 126 calories
• Dinner: 15 grams of protein, 290 calories

Total Protein and Calories

• Total Protein: 66 grams
• Total Calories: 1,134 calories

This revised diet provides more natural sources of protein and slightly reduces the overall calorie intake while still exceeding the 56 grams protein target.

Summary of Replacements

• Greek Yogurt and Chia Seeds → Oatmeal and Flax Seeds
• Almonds → Edamame
• Quinoa and Mixed Beans → Lentil Salad
• Hummus and Vegetable Sticks → Pumpkin Seeds
• Tofu Stir-Fry → Chickpea and Vegetable Stir-Fry

By making these adjustments, the diet includes more whole, unprocessed foods and maintains a high protein intake while managing calorie content effectively.

[CanadianMalodu]

9 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

See you still need to use artificial sources like tofu .

It's not because they are complete or incomplete it's because protein per calories is very high in veg diets.

Take cashews ,you need to eat 2.5 times amount of calories when compared to  chicken to get the same amount of protein.

It's mostly th same with all veg diets unless they are artificial like soya.

Men should stay away from Soya and Tofu. You don't need estrogen.

[Teluguredu]

8 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Per calorie need not be the bar. Your intake can be based on your needs. The problem with standardization is one size doesn't fit all.

If someone consumes higher calories with higher protein yet fills his body needs. What the issue?

Unless they do cardio or has a very active lifestyle ,they will gain extra weight .

It's very difficult to keep calories under 2300-2500 and get enough protein without eating artificial sources like tofu or soya.

 

[lollilolli2020]

3 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Men should stay away from Soya and Tofu. You don't need estrogen.

this is a fallacy anna, heavy amounts also their is no empirical evidence that it has side effects on men, ala side effects ravali ante recommended dietary intake kante chala chala ekkuva consumption vundali. 

[lollilolli2020]

2 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Unless they do cardio or has a very active lifestyle ,they will gain extra weight .

It's very difficult to keep calories under 2300-2500 and get enough protein without eating artificial sources like tofu or soya.

 

what makes tofu or soya an artificial ones ?

GMO yes but artificial I don't think so. are you implying GMO= Artificial. 
then GMO is ubiquitous. 

tofu is made with similar process as paneer, in fact in India now-a-days it is reported that paneer is being made artificially so people should avoid street side food which includes paneer as one of the raw materials in cooking process.  

[Teluguredu]

3 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

what makes tofu or soya an artificial ones ?

GMO yes but artificial I don't think so. are you implying GMO= Artificial. 
then GMO is ubiquitous. 

tofu is made with similar process as paneer, in fact in India now-a-days it is reported that paneer is being made artificially so people should avoid street side food which includes paneer as one of the raw materials in cooking process.  

By artificial I mean processed food.

[lollilolli2020]

2 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

By artificial I mean processed food.

Ahh got you. 

[Paamu]

23 hours ago, Sucker said:

Anna after 95 kids are not like 80's 90' vuncles. All are doing so good with Gym culture. In fact aada ladies ne fat avuthunnadu okkasari 30 touch cheyagane without control on food no work out. Yemanna ante maa body changes neeku thelvadhu ani escaping with excuses. Kids after 95 are in good shape around me. I don't know places like Dallas with beer biryani 

All kaadu kaani some ani anu.... India lo full pottalu eskoni unnaru youth kooda. Awareness aythe increased.