CanadianMalodu Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 1 minute ago, appusri said: Ae ooru bro meedhi? Eluru. Meedha ee vooru bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appusri Posted November 25 Author Report Share Posted November 25 2 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said: Eluru. Meedha ee vooru bro? Eluru Town aa? Maadhi Wyra ki dhaggarlo oka chinna ooru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMalodu Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 1 hour ago, appusri said: Eluru Town aa? Maadhi Wyra ki dhaggarlo oka chinna ooru. Yes. Oh nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thokkalee Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 2 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said: What do you think is the role of the government? How do you think, it will earn and spend?What's your take on neo liberal economic models? The state should EARN and then spend.. not take a LOAN and spend.. if a state can do it, then every level of government like a district, mandal and panchayat can do the same by mortgaging their assets and take loans and distribute the money to their people.. there is no limit to how much you can distribute.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMalodu Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 43 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: The state should EARN and then spend.. not take a LOAN and spend.. if a state can do it, then every level of government like a district, mandal and panchayat can do the same by mortgaging their assets and take loans and distribute the money to their people.. there is no limit to how much you can distribute.. That's not how neo liberalism works unfortunately. There is no state "earning". Those profit making businesses are already sold off marked as loss making ones. Government exists in businesses that don't make much profit now. Rest is just "tax" money or selling of "lands" or royalties for government resources which are paltry with one constant revenue generating avenue being liquor. India is not a federal society as in you don't have autonomy for local institutions unless state government approves the sale of their assets or mortgaging or their assets. Governments from the neo liberal era are "borrowing" from creditors like "WORLD BANK" IMF. The Debt to GDP kept on climbing steadily. The only difference being between Baboru + Dora vs Jagan, is downward percolation of debt. With Jagan monies reached to the poor, but with the other two as those monies are siphoned off in bigger projects (Kaleshwaram, Raithu Bandhu, Mission Bagheeratha, Amaravathi, Polavaram) the monies didn't percolate downwards. Inflation has been constant, possibly on the little lower side during Jagan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thokkalee Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said: That's not how neo liberalism works unfortunately. There is no state "earning". Those profit making businesses are already sold off marked as loss making ones. Government exists in businesses that don't make much profit now. Rest is just "tax" money or selling of "lands" or royalties for government resources which are paltry with one constant revenue generating avenue being liquor. India is not a federal society as in you don't have autonomy for local institutions unless state government approves the sale of their assets or mortgaging or their assets. Governments from the neo liberal era are "borrowing" from creditors like "WORLD BANK" IMF. The Debt to GDP kept on climbing steadily. The only difference being between Baboru + Dora vs Jagan, is downward percolation of debt. With Jagan monies reached to the poor, but with the other two as those monies are siphoned off in bigger projects (Kaleshwaram, Raithu Bandhu, Mission Bagheeratha, Amaravathi, Polavaram) the monies didn't percolate downwards. Inflation has been constant, possibly on the little lower side during Jagan. okay okay.. continue music 🎻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosthaBidda Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 5 hours ago, Keth said: Can you please answer this one @CanadianMalodu @CanadianMalodu endi vayya. Anni sarlu adgithe sappudu cheyyav. Appudu kuda EVM ante oka pani ayipoya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker_007 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 7 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said: Jagan is once in a life time kind of guy, who had done tangible things for the poor in Andhra. Rest all are pretty much political brokers. Poor people peru cheppi Middle class vadi naddi virgottadu ga.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosthaBidda Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 2 hours ago, Joker_007 said: Poor people peru cheppi Middle class vadi naddi virgottadu ga.... he made everyone Poor. That is what he meant by tangible things for Poor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teluguredu Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 16 hours ago, Thokkalee said: Babori Pasupu kumkuma scheme ni konchem pedda scale lo chesaadu Jagan anna… he thought he can buy votes permanently by paying them.. people are smart enough to realize that he is not giving his own money but their money.. lost big time just like Baboru that is not even from the state revenue.. that is all loans which had to be paid off and pay interest annually until they are paid off.. aa 2 lakh crores capital expense ga petti unte, roads avi bagundevi, continuous electricity supply undedi, oka IT park pettachhu.. or oka SEZ kattachu.. people would have been happier.. I am not a fan of amaravati either.. all these social welfare schemes and large infra projects like city building are money pits.. Lmfao pasupu kunkum a last ditch effort to save face compared to jagans schemes is a joke. Social welfare schemes are not money pits ,especially in a transparent system ,it will also stimulate economy ,main purpose of state government is to ensure welfare of the people. Roads were last constructed in kkr 's time ,even CBN didn't construct any roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teluguredu Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 9 hours ago, Joker_007 said: Poor people peru cheppi Middle class vadi naddi virgottadu ga.... Lol CBN time lo iddariki bokke.only contractors ki relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker_007 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 42 minutes ago, Teluguredu said: Lol CBN time lo iddariki bokke.only contractors ki relief. andulo kuda Middle Class vallu unnaru kaka... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pichukgudu Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 11 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said: That's not how neo liberalism works unfortunately. There is no state "earning". Those profit making businesses are already sold off marked as loss making ones. Government exists in businesses that don't make much profit now. Rest is just "tax" money or selling of "lands" or royalties for government resources which are paltry with one constant revenue generating avenue being liquor. India is not a federal society as in you don't have autonomy for local institutions unless state government approves the sale of their assets or mortgaging or their assets. Governments from the neo liberal era are "borrowing" from creditors like "WORLD BANK" IMF. The Debt to GDP kept on climbing steadily. The only difference being between Baboru + Dora vs Jagan, is downward percolation of debt. With Jagan monies reached to the poor, but with the other two as those monies are siphoned off in bigger projects (Kaleshwaram, Raithu Bandhu, Mission Bagheeratha, Amaravathi, Polavaram) the monies didn't percolate downwards. Inflation has been constant, possibly on the little lower side during Jagan. Do u think govt. is a business enterprise that thrives on profit / loss mechanism ?? Basic responsibility of a govt. is to provide better living conditions for its citizens! And they do that by improving their standards of living, by creating more opportunities for them to grow financially & socially which also reflects in their economic class when they move up from BPL to lower middle class to upper middle class, so on & so forth .. & which will increase the revenue of govt. which they'd again continue to spend on welfare schemes & also to build capital infrastructure that will again help in attracting more investments & eventually more opportunities for residents .. more growth & more revenue & the cycle goes on!! This cannot be achieved simply by making a section of citizens depend on DBT's from govt. forever ... A govt. is considered to be a failed one, when it's unable to pay salaries on time to its own employees & borrow loans on the other hand to just fulfil the welfare promises to poor people .. who'll definitely spend that money which would keep the economy running, but what about the 70% people of the state who are not beneficiaries of those DBT's, yet have to carry the burden of paying the interest for that loan acquired by govt. & with no real incentives for them ?? This way you're just making the working class poorer by each passing day at the expense of citizens who are living on freebies .. who'll again always remain that way because there is no plan to make them efficient by helping them to be able to stand on their own feet even after a certain period of time .. Is this the kind of economic cycle you're raving about ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teluguredu Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 3 minutes ago, Joker_007 said: andulo kuda Middle Class vallu unnaru kaka... Sub-contractors ki dabbulu raavalante mundhu paina unna leech contractors nokkintarvaathe.adhi kooda same party vaale untaru mostly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teluguredu Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 4 minutes ago, pichukgudu said: Do u think govt. is a business enterprise that thrives on profit / loss mechanism ?? Basic responsibility of a govt. is to provide better living conditions for its citizens! And they do that by improving their standards of living, by creating more opportunities for them to grow financially & socially which also reflects in their economic class when they move up from BPL to lower middle class to upper middle class, so on & so forth .. & which will increase the revenue of govt. which they'd again continue to spend on welfare schemes & also to build capital infrastructure that will again help in attracting more investments & eventually more opportunities for residents .. more growth & more revenue & the cycle goes on!! This cannot be achieved simply by making a section of citizens depend on DBT's from govt. forever ... A govt. is considered to be a failed one, when it's unable to pay salaries on time to its own employees & borrow loans on the other hand to just fulfil the welfare promises to poor people .. who'll definitely spend that money which would keep the economy running, but what about the 70% people of the state who are not beneficiaries of those DBT's, yet have to carry the burden of paying the interest for that loan acquired by govt. & with no real incentives for them ?? This way you're just making the working class poorer by each passing day at the expense of citizens who are living on freebies .. who'll again always remain that way because there is no plan to make them efficient by helping them to be able to stand on their own feet even after a certain period of time .. Is this the kind of economic cycle you're raving about ??? What about the debt money pumped to showbiz infra projects which get completely cut off from the economy and only benefit realtors and contractors and the debt is paid by the normal people while the state economy gets zilch ,this is much worse than DBT's where the money atleast works as stimulus to economy. DBT aren't a big dent as compared to the money cut off by these leeches . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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