Car suggestion (Lexus/Toyota/BMW/EV car)

[shaktimaan]

3 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

fuel efficient kaadu vayya dead weight carry chestunnav ante malla 1 shot 2 birds right ani ade question. 

The fuel efficiency and range on a full tank for the 2024 Mazda CX-90 PHEV and the 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid are as follows:

Mazda CX-90 PHEV

• Combined MPG (gasoline mode): 25
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• All-Electric Range: 26 miles
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• Fuel Economy Equivalent: 56 MPGe in electric mode
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• Total Range: About 490 miles (combined electric and gasoline)
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Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid

• Combined MPG: 36 (front-wheel drive), ~34 (all-wheel drive)
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• EPA-estimated range: Not explicitly stated, but likely around 500-550 miles based on fuel efficiency and typical tank size

The Mazda CX-90 PHEV offers better fuel efficiency when utilizing its electric range, achieving 56 MPGe

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. However, once the battery is depleted, its gasoline-only efficiency is lower than the Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid. The Toyota consistently achieves 34-36 mpg combined without requiring plug-in charging

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.For long trips, the Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid may be more efficient overall, while the Mazda CX-90 PHEV could be more efficient for shorter trips that can make use of its electric range.

I’m going to lease a Fiat 500e just for the giggles. Free lease deal for 27 months in CO and just taxes due which are about 1300 lol

[lollilolli2020]

1 minute ago, shaktimaan said:

I’m going to lease a Fiat 500e just for the giggles. Free lease deal for 27 months in CO and just taxes due which are about 1300 lol

is it for other states ? 
1300 for 2yrs is a steal; maa office parking lo ev charge chesukovachemo chudali if yes free charging for 8hrs win win for me lol 

[shaktimaan]

Just now, lollilolli2020 said:

is it for other states ? 
1300 for 2yrs is a steal; maa office parking lo ev charge chesukovachemo chudali if yes free charging for 8hrs win win for me lol 

no, only for CO residents 

[lollilolli2020]

2 minutes ago, shaktimaan said:

no, only for CO residents 

[Hitman]

47 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

 

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. However, once the battery is depleted, its gasoline-only efficiency is lower than the Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid. The Toyota consistently achieves 34-36 mpg combined without requiring plug-in charging

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.For long trips, the Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid may be more efficient overall, while the Mazda CX-90 PHEV could be more efficient for shorter trips that can make use of its electric range.

Dead weight - is it due to PHEV's bigger battery ? 

Q - In City driving at 40 MPH, Can PHEV becomes Hybrid, once after the battery get depleted? where you still can get improved mileage compare to pure gas?

Only concern is Long drives. If you don't mind spending some extra fuel for occasional long drives, isn't PHEV still good bet for frequent local trips and occasional long drives? 

 

[no01]

personal experience, EV is good for local driving or max 2 hrs anthe. My main family car is Model Y....its good but 5 - 6 hrs driving ki couple of stops pakka for charging and sometimes it may take 45+ mins for charging....eventually 5-6hrs drive becomes 8hrs and kids get exhausted sitting that long. So have gas model as primary (with 3rd row preferable) and then buy either sedan or SUV EV car for local driving or near by

 

[k2s]

19 hours ago, vatchesa said:

Prastutaniki 2 years back konna X5 undi. 

Now we are in need of 3 row family car and after 6 months we need second car maybe some EV for lease. 
 

3 rows car - Grand Highlander chusa, third row leg space antha lenattundi, is it same for you guys aswell? Or nenu sarigha chudaleda?

inkoti Lexus TX mind lo undi, but seems expensive. ( already X5 baga depreciate ayindi)

 

inka any better SUV?

 

EV lease Ipudu evo offers unayi, but not needed now. Malli 6 months taruvata ela untado prices telivu.

 

any suggestions on how to manage/proceed?

super good LegRoom in 3rd row antey - 
- Cars lo R1S , Merc GLS 
- Vans lo Pacifica, Siena, Odyssey, and other  

[dosth]

1 hour ago, Hitman said:

endi vayya PHEV meeda anta negativity? can you please elaborate?  I thought PHEV justifies more for your $ because for daily commute you can use full EV (feel good factor for Go Green guys) and long drives you can use Hybrid or Gas.

ee PHEV aina first 25-30 miles  runs on battery , aa travata rest of the commute its gas car

for that you have to pay more atleast 10k more on normal gas car and you have to pay regular gas, oil chnage..etc maintenance also

[lollilolli2020]

15 minutes ago, Hitman said:

Dead weight - is it due to PHEV's bigger battery ? 

Q - In City driving at 40 MPH, Can PHEV becomes Hybrid, once after the battery get depleted? where you still can get improved mileage compare to pure gas?

Only concern is Long drives. If you don't mind spending some extra fuel for occasional long drives, isn't PHEV still good bet for frequent local trips and occasional long drives? 

 

entha kani charge chestav roju aa 50 miles kosam; practicality kuda alochinchu. 
I don't want to get convinced coz I have decided, either I can go hybrid or full ev or just regular gasoline; PHEV is not best of both worlds anna. 
Hybrid-- its been there for a while
EV-- its been there for a while considerably 

ICE-- you know 

PHEV-- these are pretty new compared to other 3. 

extra fuel if they don't mind spending they can spend the same kada 40 miles kosam ochche range ki oka 2 gallons or 1.5 gallons extra posukoni nadupukunte ICE ee better kada. 

antha daniki ICE konukoni aa 50 miles range ki 2 gallons kottinchukoleva 

hybrid vs PHEV-- Hybrid is better anta 

EV Vs PHEV-- EV is better anta 

ICE vs PHEV -- ICE better coz aa 40-50 miles range kosam roju charging petti; aa fast charging setup kosam inko konchem money spend chesi doesn't make sense to me. 

 

malla ade question. 

PHEV doesn't become hybrid; bigger battery andulo most of the battery for recharging. 

 

In a hybrid, that small battery is all there is, and how it's kept full relates back to the burning of gasoline. In plug-in hybrids, that small battery still exists, but it's more of a theoretical reserve set aside within a much larger battery. How much larger is a PHEV's battery? On the order of 10 to 20 times the size of a hybrid's battery. The extra capacity allows for fully electric driving for some 20 to 50 miles, depending on battery size and the weight and configuration of the vehicle. You do have to plug in the vehicle to fill this larger battery, which is where the P in PHEV comes from. Crucially, the battery isn't truly empty when range goes to zero and the engine switches on. This is where the approximate 1 kWh reserve carve-out comes into play so gasoline hybrid operation supported by regenerative braking can continue, the H in PHEV.

Because of this, PHEVs stand in a middle ground between gasoline-fueled vehicles (including hybrids) and fully electric vehicles. They have two fuel flaps for two external fuel sources—electricity and gasoline. This is why it's easier to think of PHEVs as part-time electric vehicles. They can be a pure EV commuter and errand-runner on weekdays, but they retain unlimited road trip capability using gasoline-fueled hybrid power during weekend trips and on vacation.

To paraphrase a superhero franchise, with greater battery power comes greater design responsibility. A PHEV is expected to get propulsion from its electric motor across a wider speed range than a hybrid when its battery is sufficiently juiced up, so the PHEV upgrade is only feasible if the underlying hybrid system has a sufficiently powerful electric propulsion motor. Because such motors also act as generators, this also means PHEVs are more likely than hybrids to offer varying driver-adjustable levels of regenerative braking up to including one-pedal driving via regen triggered by lifting off the throttle.

[ManchamKodi]

On 12/15/2024 at 3:55 PM, vatchesa said:

Prastutaniki 2 years back konna X5 undi. 

Now we are in need of 3 row family car and after 6 months we need second car maybe some EV for lease. 
 

3 rows car - Grand Highlander chusa, third row leg space antha lenattundi, is it same for you guys aswell? Or nenu sarigha chudaleda?

inkoti Lexus TX mind lo undi, but seems expensive. ( already X5 baga depreciate ayindi)

 

inka any better SUV?

 

EV lease Ipudu evo offers unayi, but not needed now. Malli 6 months taruvata ela untado prices telivu.

 

any suggestions on how to manage/proceed?

sell all your car and buy odyseey uncle

[perugu_vada]

High end not needed ante ,. Hyundai Santa Fe new model chusava uncle ,

[perugu_vada]

9 hours ago, lollilolli2020 said:

entha kani charge chestav roju aa 50 miles kosam; practicality kuda alochinchu. 
I don't want to get convinced coz I have decided, either I can go hybrid or full ev or just regular gasoline; PHEV is not best of both worlds anna. 
Hybrid-- its been there for a while
EV-- its been there for a while considerably 

ICE-- you know 

PHEV-- these are pretty new compared to other 3. 

extra fuel if they don't mind spending they can spend the same kada 40 miles kosam ochche range ki oka 2 gallons or 1.5 gallons extra posukoni nadupukunte ICE ee better kada. 

antha daniki ICE konukoni aa 50 miles range ki 2 gallons kottinchukoleva 

hybrid vs PHEV-- Hybrid is better anta 

EV Vs PHEV-- EV is better anta 

ICE vs PHEV -- ICE better coz aa 40-50 miles range kosam roju charging petti; aa fast charging setup kosam inko konchem money spend chesi doesn't make sense to me. 

 

malla ade question. 

PHEV doesn't become hybrid; bigger battery andulo most of the battery for recharging. 

 

In a hybrid, that small battery is all there is, and how it's kept full relates back to the burning of gasoline. In plug-in hybrids, that small battery still exists, but it's more of a theoretical reserve set aside within a much larger battery. How much larger is a PHEV's battery? On the order of 10 to 20 times the size of a hybrid's battery. The extra capacity allows for fully electric driving for some 20 to 50 miles, depending on battery size and the weight and configuration of the vehicle. You do have to plug in the vehicle to fill this larger battery, which is where the P in PHEV comes from. Crucially, the battery isn't truly empty when range goes to zero and the engine switches on. This is where the approximate 1 kWh reserve carve-out comes into play so gasoline hybrid operation supported by regenerative braking can continue, the H in PHEV.

Because of this, PHEVs stand in a middle ground between gasoline-fueled vehicles (including hybrids) and fully electric vehicles. They have two fuel flaps for two external fuel sources—electricity and gasoline. This is why it's easier to think of PHEVs as part-time electric vehicles. They can be a pure EV commuter and errand-runner on weekdays, but they retain unlimited road trip capability using gasoline-fueled hybrid power during weekend trips and on vacation.

To paraphrase a superhero franchise, with greater battery power comes greater design responsibility. A PHEV is expected to get propulsion from its electric motor across a wider speed range than a hybrid when its battery is sufficiently juiced up, so the PHEV upgrade is only feasible if the underlying hybrid system has a sufficiently powerful electric propulsion motor. Because such motors also act as generators, this also means PHEVs are more likely than hybrids to offer varying driver-adjustable levels of regenerative braking up to including one-pedal driving via regen triggered by lifting off the throttle.

Agree .. phev biscuit .. my friend has Volvo xc90 phev .. 23miles ostundi on charge .. dhani k evo sodhi antha cheptadu .. just to convince others and himself 

 

[lollilolli2020]

11 hours ago, perugu_vada said:

Agree .. phev biscuit .. my friend has Volvo xc90 phev .. 23miles ostundi on charge .. dhani k evo sodhi antha cheptadu .. just to convince others and himself 

 

nenu excite ayya PHEV CX90 kondam ani but at the end not worth it ani lite tesukunna coz rebates avi gatra ostalev. 

[perugu_vada]

27 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

nenu excite ayya PHEV CX90 kondam ani but at the end not worth it ani lite tesukunna coz rebates avi gatra ostalev. 

@lollilolli2020 uncle if u have any feedback about equinox EV .. plz post it 

[lollilolli2020]

2 minutes ago, perugu_vada said:

@lollilolli2020 uncle if u have any feedback about equinox EV .. plz post it 

EVs ante katchchi uncle naaku only @shaktimaan can answer your queries. 

also endukoo american brands eppudu try cheyale nenu