Why Andhra never had CM from West/East Godavari or Uttarandhra?

[Thokkalee]

2 minutes ago, venkappa said:

Nuvvu em matladutunnav. Razanna got the publicity and the pan-AP craze to become CM at the time. Bochu gadu was some local North Andhra leader. 

Aa.. thokkalee.. he suppressed all the leaders in congress to get power.. Botsa is a tall leader whose ambitions to become a CM when he was a PCC president were killed by Ysr and his industrialist friends who lobbied with the Congress high command.. 

[Teluguredu]

Noone even knows about botcha from guntur and below.

[venkappa]

13 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

Aa.. thokkalee.. he suppressed all the leaders in congress to get power.. Botsa is a tall leader whose ambitions to become a CM when he was a PCC president were killed by Ysr and his industrialist friends who lobbied with the Congress high command.. 

I’m sure Bochu goru was tall in his area. But Razanna was much taller than him. He was CM in waiting since 90s.

[Thokkalee]

46 minutes ago, venkappa said:

I’m sure Bochu goru was tall in his area. But Razanna was much taller than him. He was CM in waiting since 90s.

You are being modest.. Yes Rajanna was a tall leader from the day he was born..  

[venkappa]

21 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

If telagas/kaapus in godavari were loyal to congress , I think there would have been one cm from godavari districts.but they have split across parties after TDP came around.

Rest of the communities in godavari aren't that powerful ,rajus were powerful during congress time and were strong supporters of congress but their population is too low although there has been a velama cm but I think that's because to fulfill telangana quota.

It’s quite shocking how there has never been a Cop CM. They have big population in TG, Kosta, and Seema. 

But what about Chowdaries and BCs? They are from Godavari as well.

[CanadianMalodu]

17 hours ago, Thokkalee said:

You are being modest.. Yes Rajanna was a tall leader from the day he was born..  

Botsa em matlduthado Asalu sagam ardham ee kadhu. 2004 elections mundhu padayatra chesinappudu Eenadu carried banner stories about YSR. Why this kolaveri about Botsa? Janasena lo lagalani Paleru chetha try cheyisthunnara enti?

[Teluguredu]

24 minutes ago, venkappa said:

It’s quite shocking how there has never been a Cop CM. They have big population in TG, Kosta, and Seema. 

But what about Chowdaries and BCs? They are from Godavari as well.

BC's are not a single caste .most dominant BC's are munnuru kaapus ,yadavas and gouds .they wont unite.

With kammas ,they are dominant in krishna and guntur regions.they are dominant in bordering areas of west godavari ,not much in rest of godavari .

Reddies and kammas are dominant from rayalaseema to krishna where reddies are less in population in guntur(barring palnadu) and krishna and kammas are less in population in  kadapa and kurnool.almost close to each other in chitoor ,Nellore (reddies are slightly higher) and kammas are more in prakasham while reddies are more in ATP.

From godavari regions to north andhra caste equations change a lot where you see kaapus and bc's having lot of power. And also you have rajus.

I think if kaapus weren't split between congress and TDP they might have gotten a cm seat in late 1980's  or 90's.

[CanadianMalodu]

5 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

BC's are not a single caste .most dominant BC's are munnuru kaapus ,yadavas and gouds .they wont unite.

With kammas ,they are dominant in krishna and guntur regions.they are dominant in bordering areas of west godavari ,not much in rest of godavari .

Reddies and kammas are dominant from rayalaseema to krishna where reddies are less in population in guntur(barring palnadu) and krishna and kammas are less in population in  kadapa and kurnool.almost close to each other in chitoor ,Nellore (reddies are slightly higher) and kammas are more in prakasham while reddies are more in ATP.

From godavari regions to north andhra caste equations change a lot where you see kaapus and bc's having lot of power. And also you have rajus.

I think if kaapus weren't split between congress and TDP they might have gotten a cm seat in late 1980's  or 90's.

They would have gotten one with Sirio, had he not merged his party with Congress after state bifurcation.

[Teluguredu]

11 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

They would have gotten one with Sirio, had he not merged his party with Congress after state bifurcation.

I don't know,the votebanks were already fixed for congress and TDP ,but chiru got a lot of kaapu votes.chiru could influence the elections in a major way but I don't think he got cadre and enough loyal votebank to win on his own.

Would majority  bc's and kammas vote for chiru over TDP if he replaced TDP or would minorities and reddies choose chiru over jagan ? I don't see him replacing either party.

[pichhipullayya]

22 hours ago, Aquaman said:

Next 10 generations ki space ledhu antunna @psycopk , it will be

CBN --> Lokesh--> Lokesh son--> Lokesh son's son------- goes on

Anna

CBN - AP ok

why lokesh Dynasty who are born & brought up in Hyd completely ?

Even today does Lokesh Wife & kids live in Amaravati ?

[CanadianMalodu]

22 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

I don't know,the votebanks were already fixed for congress and TDP ,but chiru got a lot of kaapu votes.chiru could influence the elections in a major way but I don't think he got cadre and enough loyal votebank to win on his own.

Would majority  bc's and kammas vote for chiru over TDP if he replaced TDP or would minorities and reddies choose chiru over jagan ? I don't see him replacing either party.

At that point of time, yes. Today, no.

TDP was on verge of collapse and Sirio if he stood strong with 18 seats would have swept both WG, and EG. Even Rayalaseema people who were wary of  Baboru would have voted Sirio party. Remember Baboru had to take Paleru support then in 2014. This was before EVM golmaals. 

He would have swept entire north coastal Andhra. I think he would have won good chunk of Krishna and Guntur as well. I don't think Baboru had the capacity to stop Sirio if he struck to politics then. That's why he used Radha Kitta to mud sling Sirio.

Sirio already has built good base among BCs. He would have dug deeper into Mala votes of Congress and even Reddies. Balijas from Rayalaseema would have felt at home in PRP.  Majority Kapu+ Mala+ 50% BC +Some Reddies+Some Kammas would have swept PRP into majority seats in assembly. 

But Sirio is NOT Jagan. He didn't have the guts of Jagan to stand ground against Sonia and her chemchas neither he has wit of Baboru to do back door arrangements. End result he is happy dancing with heroines half his age and attend audio functions.

[ManOffSteel]

32 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

BC's are not a single caste .most dominant BC's are munnuru kaapus ,yadavas and gouds .they wont unite.

With kammas ,they are dominant in krishna and guntur regions.they are dominant in bordering areas of west godavari ,not much in rest of godavari .

Reddies and kammas are dominant from rayalaseema to krishna where reddies are less in population in guntur(barring palnadu) and krishna and kammas are less in population in  kadapa and kurnool.almost close to each other in chitoor ,Nellore (reddies are slightly higher) and kammas are more in prakasham while reddies are more in ATP.

From godavari regions to north andhra caste equations change a lot where you see kaapus and bc's having lot of power. And also you have rajus.

I think if kaapus weren't split between congress and TDP they might have gotten a cm seat in late 1980's  or 90's.

Except for Krishna, Guntur, Prakasam Kammas numbers don’t match Reddy numbers in anyother district and they are not dominant in any single Rayalaseema districts and Nellore. They have small pockets of presence here and there, but that’s pretty much it. My family is mostly from Rayalaseema districts- Kurnool, Chittoor, ATP areas and most of the common people there don’t even know that Kamma is a cast. Chittor ATP lo there are small pockets of Kammas but mostly the reddys dominate the proceedings there. Till I moved to Hyderabad for studies I didn’t know much about Kammas..

[Teluguredu]

27 minutes ago, ManOffSteel said:

Except for Krishna, Guntur, Prakasam Kammas numbers don’t match Reddy numbers in anyother district and they are not dominant in any single Rayalaseema districts and Nellore. They have small pockets of presence here and there, but that’s pretty much it. My family is mostly from Rayalaseema districts- Kurnool, Chittoor, ATP areas and most of the common people there don’t even know that Kamma is a cast. Chittor ATP lo there are small pockets of Kammas but mostly the reddys dominate the proceedings there. Till I moved to Hyderabad for studies I didn’t know much about Kammas..

kammas have good population in chitoor and even in Nellore.but reddies are a little more populous in these areas.

They are called naidus in rayalaseema and Nellore.

Don't confuse political dominance with population ,the British have given priority to some castes in some areas .even in krishna district kaapus are more in number but politically kammas are more dominant ,in godavari districts priority was given to telagas and rajus and kammas in bordering areas especially.

[Goli]

On 1/7/2025 at 2:07 PM, venkappa said:

Most CMs coming from Rayalaseema, Telangana, Guntur, and Krishna. But why no CM coming from Godavari or North Andhra?

Godavari jillas are very politically active and have higher population than other jillas. Turpu Godavari results can usually predict who will win the next elections. Paschima Godavari has the wealthiest population on average.

Shocking how there hasn't been one CM yet.

Not need for Godavari folks to loot people 

[venkappa]

4 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

BC's are not a single caste .most dominant BC's are munnuru kaapus ,yadavas and gouds .they wont unite.

With kammas ,they are dominant in krishna and guntur regions.they are dominant in bordering areas of west godavari ,not much in rest of godavari .

Reddies and kammas are dominant from rayalaseema to krishna where reddies are less in population in guntur(barring palnadu) and krishna and kammas are less in population in  kadapa and kurnool.almost close to each other in chitoor ,Nellore (reddies are slightly higher) and kammas are more in prakasham while reddies are more in ATP.

From godavari regions to north andhra caste equations change a lot where you see kaapus and bc's having lot of power. And also you have rajus.

I think if kaapus weren't split between congress and TDP they might have gotten a cm seat in late 1980's  or 90's.

Which Cop leaders almost became CM in late 80s and 90s?

There are lots of rich Cops in Godari jillas and Vizag. Yet not one could become CM.