Vaccine side effects in India

[CanadianMalodu]

  On 2/22/2025 at 5:02 AM, Iriswest said:

Azithromycin and Chloroquine were not effective. Period. It did not avert any infection/deaths. You still needed strong antivirals and a hel$ lot of steroids to keep the inflammation in control. Without the covid vaccines we as a human race would have been doomed. Going by what I have observed closely and the cover ups that the governments have tried to do, the m-rna vaccine surely did not go through it's course of clinical trials. But given the mortal impact of a highly mutant virus, we had to get these vaccines and be ready for any 1 in a million consequences. But those 1 in a million consequences should also be studied thoroughly because the entire next gen has taken it and it might get worse with time.

 

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There is no period here. Philippe Gautret et al. Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Jul, which was retracted later clearly indicated the efficacy of hydroquinone and Azithromycin as well.

Immunomodulatory properties of Azithromycin was also studied in connection with various Virus groups

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32969125/

The later studies contradicted and concluded Azithromycin didn't really help. One was RECOVERY trial and the other one was COALITION Trial and there was another one from NIH. My skepticism about them comes from the funders of these studies. Bill Gates foundation, Leamann foundation, Wellcome Trust and Oxford University. All of them are collaborated with and are funded by Gates through his foundation. 

When I was down with COVID, dosing 1g of Azithromycin for 5 days did really help me. I was down with body aches, fever and never felt so weak before. A week later I was doing deadlifts in gym.  Not a very scientific one, but that's my empirical observation. Which is also why I wouldn't rule out the earlier trials.

I wouldn't buy this. Humans survived plagues, Small pox outbreaks throughout the history. mRNA therapies vs Small molecule treatments, I would prefer latter any day. 

The biggest problem with EUA of mRNA vax was natural immunity developed from prior infection was never taken into account. I would also disagree with the mortality rate due to confounding variables in death tally. 

I prefer having Vax as a choice instead of mandating it. I have lived through mandates, but didn't take Vax and have no intention to get it again. 

[Iriswest]

  On 2/22/2025 at 1:17 PM, CanadianMalodu said:

There is no period here. Philippe Gautret et al. Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Jul, which was retracted later clearly indicated the efficacy of hydroquinone and Azithromycin as well.

Immunomodulatory properties of Azithromycin was also studied in connection with various Virus groups

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32969125/

The later studies contradicted and concluded Azithromycin didn't really help. One was RECOVERY trial and the other one was COALITION Trial and there was another one from NIH. My skepticism about them comes from the funders of these studies. Bill Gates foundation, Leamann foundation, Wellcome Trust and Oxford University. All of them are collaborated with and are funded by Gates through his foundation. 

When I was down with COVID, dosing 1g of Azithromycin for 5 days did really help me. I was down with body aches, fever and never felt so weak before. A week later I was doing deadlifts in gym.  Not a very scientific one, but that's my empirical observation. Which is also why I wouldn't rule out the earlier trials.

I wouldn't buy this. Humans survived plagues, Small pox outbreaks throughout the history. mRNA therapies vs Small molecule treatments, I would prefer latter any day. 

The biggest problem with EUA of mRNA vax was natural immunity developed from prior infection was never taken into account. I would also disagree with the mortality rate due to confounding variables in death tally. 

I prefer having Vax as a choice instead of mandating it. I have lived through mandates, but didn't take Vax and have no intention to get it again. 

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You have a severe survivor bias. Many many children died who have a very dynamic immunity who were also given the same anti malarial drugs. 
 

let’s drop this debate here. We clearly have a very different take on m-rna vaccines. With the amount of deaths I have seen around me, and knowing what coverups Indian government did to report low numbers, I wouldn’t have had a second thought to taking vaccine.

[Iriswest]

  On 2/22/2025 at 1:17 PM, CanadianMalodu said:

There is no period here. Philippe Gautret et al. Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Jul, which was retracted later clearly indicated the efficacy of hydroquinone and Azithromycin as well.

Immunomodulatory properties of Azithromycin was also studied in connection with various Virus groups

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32969125/

The later studies contradicted and concluded Azithromycin didn't really help. One was RECOVERY trial and the other one was COALITION Trial and there was another one from NIH. My skepticism about them comes from the funders of these studies. Bill Gates foundation, Leamann foundation, Wellcome Trust and Oxford University. All of them are collaborated with and are funded by Gates through his foundation. 

When I was down with COVID, dosing 1g of Azithromycin for 5 days did really help me. I was down with body aches, fever and never felt so weak before. A week later I was doing deadlifts in gym.  Not a very scientific one, but that's my empirical observation. Which is also why I wouldn't rule out the earlier trials.

I wouldn't buy this. Humans survived plagues, Small pox outbreaks throughout the history. mRNA therapies vs Small molecule treatments, I would prefer latter any day. 

The biggest problem with EUA of mRNA vax was natural immunity developed from prior infection was never taken into account. I would also disagree with the mortality rate due to confounding variables in death tally. 

I prefer having Vax as a choice instead of mandating it. I have lived through mandates, but didn't take Vax and have no intention to get it again. 

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Do you know the plague wiped off 30% of human population? Covid was nothing short of it. I am thankful that we didn’t have to see history repeat again.

[Bvmr9102]

Every year thisukune flu shots safe a na?

[CanadianMalodu]

  On 2/22/2025 at 1:28 PM, Iriswest said:

1. You have a severe survivor bias. 2.Many many children died who have a very dynamic immunity who were also given the same anti malarial drugs. 
 

let’s drop this debate here. We clearly have a very different take on m-rna vaccines. With the amount of deaths I have seen around me, and knowing what coverups Indian government did to report low numbers, 3. I wouldn’t have had a second thought to taking vaccine.

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1. That's optics. 

2. Where did this come from?

3. Sure, I never said you shouldn't. I only said I need a choice. If I feel that it's not in my best interests I simply don't take it. I wouldn't suggest anyone else to get one. 

[CanadianMalodu]

  On 2/22/2025 at 1:56 PM, Bvmr9102 said:

Every year thisukune flu shots safe a na?

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I have never taken them and will never take them. One virus is constantly mutating, second immunity acquired from prior infections will always help you better. Third, the aluminum adjuvant in vaccine, which I think is never safe for humans. 

Ask yourself a question, can flu not be managed? Do you really really need Vax?