Logjam Continues As Centre Fails To Convince Cms

[golmaal govindam]

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All Chief Ministers recognise need for body similar to NCTC but they have two principal concerns, says Chidambaram[/font][color=#3B3A39][font=Georgia,]
Though almost all Chief Ministers acknowledged the need for a counter-terror body, on the lines of the proposed National Counter Terrorism Centre, the Centre failed to convince them at Saturday's deliberations here to break the logjam over the final and decisive move towards setting up the hub.[/font][/color][color=#3B3A39][font=Georgia,]
Briefing journalists after the Chief Ministers' meeting, Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram said: “The final decision has not been taken.” While all the Chief Ministers recognised the need for the NCTC or a similar organisation, they voiced two principal concerns: the NCTC's location within the Intelligence Bureau (IB); and why should the NCTC have to undertake operations on its own even in exceptional circumstances?[/font][/color][color=#3B3A39][font=Georgia,]
“There was strong support from many Chief Ministers, qualified support from many and outright rejection of the idea by three Chief Ministers,” Mr. Chidambaram said. The conference was attended by 24 Chief Ministers, Ministers from three States, the Lt. Governor of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands and the administrators of some Union Territories, besides Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.[/font][/color][color=#3B3A39][font=Georgia,]
“We will examine the issues raised by the Chief Ministers carefully, and the government will then take a final decision,” Mr. Chidambaram said, hinting that the NCTC, in its present form, would not come into existence for the time being.[/font][/color][color=#3B3A39][font=Georgia,]
Even the Prime Minister's pitch that the NCTC was not a State-versus-Centre issue failed to cut ice with some of the non-Congress Chief Ministers.[/font][/color][color=#3B3A39][font=Georgia,]
Mr. Chidambaram argued that intelligence gathering and investigation were two key areas, and India needed a counter-terrorism body that would be more than a police organisation, capable of mobilising all elements of national power — be it police, diplomatic or judicial. “This gap can be filled only by a highly qualified and trained counter-terrorism body. We feel the NCTC can fill this gap. And, if not the NCTC, then some other body, and that body has to be given certain powers and functions.”[/font][/color][color=#3B3A39][font=Georgia,]
In the past 15 months, he said, 21 terror modules had been busted, thanks to the cooperation between the Central agencies and the State police forces. “What about cases where we have failed? These were potential terrorist attacks. I firmly believe that we need a counter-terrorism body. I came to the meeting with an open mind, and I am leaving with an open mind to examine every suggestion given by the Chief Ministers.[/font][/color]

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[Spartan]

nice topic disco cheyanike...

how many of u want it to be implemented..and how many not....why..???

[golmaal govindam]

[quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1336261020' post='1301744845']
nice topic disco cheyanike...

how many of u want it to be implemented..and how many not....why..???
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I support... I have valid reasons for that... janalu vastey chepputha...

[Spartan]

[quote name='golmaal govindam' timestamp='1336261238' post='1301744853']


I support... I have valid reasons for that... janalu vastey chepputha...
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start cheyi vastaru valle....

[golmaal govindam]

[quote name='golmaal govindam' timestamp='1336261238' post='1301744853']


I support... I have valid reasons for that... janalu vastey chepputha...
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Sarey.

Why we should have such a counter terror body? I guess every one agrees because ours terror infested country (highest terror casualities in the world, after Iraq).

Why need for NCTC?
1) The solution should match the problem. Currenly our terror networks have become very sophisticated and have established sleeper cells across the country which cannot be monitored by single organization like IB. The states need to cooperate with center. The move 'Public Enemy' is a good example where criminals make use of interstate borders to flee from the law. Coordination of states needed for handling these kind of criminals.

2) Local state police system is not well trained and equipped enough to tackle the criminals of these class. We can't expect our police who are trained to nab the pickpocketer to handle criminals of ISI range.


Inka reasons vunnai... but these are the main...

[Spartan]

[quote name='golmaal govindam' timestamp='1336261733' post='1301744868']

Sarey.

Why we should have such a counter terror body? I guess every one agrees because ours terror infested country (highest terror casualities in the world, after Iraq).

Why need for NCTC?
1) The solution should match the problem. Currenly our terror networks have become very sophisticated and have established sleeper cells across the country which cannot be monitored by single organization like IB. The states need to cooperate with center. The move 'Public Enemy' is a good example where criminals make use of interstate borders to flee from the law. Coordination of states needed for handling these kind of criminals.

2) Local state police system is not well trained and equipped enough to tackle the criminals of these class. We can't expect our police who are trained to nab the pickpocketer to handle criminals of ISI range.


Inka reasons vunnai... but these are the main...
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good post...

kaani CMs oppose cheyadaniki reason adi kaadu...NCTC unte...politicians ni kuda seize and arrest chese chances unnai without local police info..

andukeane they are opposing...it happened in 1983

[BhagatSingh]

assalu POTA neyyy moseysaru....inka ilantivi enni vasthey emlabham......if any chance to pass this bill better applicable to all politicians and VVIPS


who ever involved in terrorism or some other bull SH1t CRIMINAL activities


But IT NEVER HAPPENS IN INDIA .

[Spartan]

[quote name='BhagatSingh' timestamp='1336262466' post='1301744882']
assalu POTA neyyy moseysaru....inka ilantivi enni vasthey emlabham......if any chance to pass this bill better applicable to all politicians and VVIPS


who ever involved in terrorism or some other bull SH1t CRIMINAL activities


But IT NEVER HAPPENS IN INDIA .
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thats wat happening.... "Never Happens"

[BhagatSingh]

[quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1336262613' post='1301744886']


thats wat happening.... "Never Happens"
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why this happend to only in INDIA whats wrong....is with the politicians or with people .

[BhagatSingh]

why POTA billl cancelled.....once govt passed the bill ......we need to make some rules like no other govt should touch that billl



bloody buger politicians change the rules according to their convenience

[Spartan]

[quote name='BhagatSingh' timestamp='1336262701' post='1301744891']
why this happend to only in INDIA whats wrong....is with the politicians or with people .
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equally blames both people and politics...

this will jsu end up as another discussion..but will never show any fruits...

oppose chesina valalnta non-congreess CMs...endukante..Center may target Modi first...error act kinda..for Godhara..

a tarvata okkokadini lepyalani sketch geesaru...so obvious ga they will oppose....

UP Cm emo vote bank kapadukovalani opposing...for minorities...enukante they will be first target of such NCTC tasks..

[BhagatSingh]

[quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1336262876' post='1301744896']


equally blames both people and politics...

this will jsu end up as another discussion..but will never show any fruits...

oppose chesina valalnta non-congreess CMs...endukante..Center may target Modi first...error act kinda..for Godhara..

a tarvata okkokadini lepyalani sketch geesaru...so obvious ga they will oppose....

UP Cm emo vote bank kapadukovalani opposing...for minorities...enukante they will be first target of such NCTC tasks..
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but godhra case loo ...no proofs to blame modi ...even he changed alot in last 6 years why the fcuking politians and govt still targeting himm

here everyone will fight only for votes...first of all we the people need to change and elect the right person that never possible

yeah anni parties vallu unnaru but govt lo vunnna vallani first target cheyyaru




minorities is the main MOTO for every politician and political party ....



assalu POTA super act in BJP history thats so helped alot in terrorism


adhi cancell chesi ippudu kothhaga antey howww.....

[Spartan]

[quote name='BhagatSingh' timestamp='1336263207' post='1301744913']
but godhra case loo ...no proofs to blame modi ...even he changed alot in last 6 years why the fcuking politians and govt still targeting himm

here everyone will fight only for votes...first of all we the people need to change and elect the right person that never possible

yeah anni parties vallu unnaru but govt lo vunnna vallani first target cheyyaru




minorities is the main MOTO for every politician and political party ....



assalu POTA super act in BJP history thats so helped alot in terrorism


adhi cancell chesi ippudu kothhaga antey howww.....
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Modi ki against ga no proofs ani vadu local ga prove cheskunnadu...and Supreme court Bench lo prove ayyindi...

but still no clear picture among other state minorities except Gujrat....


he has changed a lot annav kada.....that change is trouble for congress....in case vadini potray chesi...BJP vere states lo seats kotteste..mottam Congress Assam....central level lo...there is no chance though that he will be projected as PM candidate..kaani use cheskovachu vadini oka range lo..and BJP speakers has that capability to publicize..ade bhayam cong ki..

POTA ettesindi Minority vote bank kosame....same thing will happen with NCTC..unless next Central govt forms with a better majority than coalation succumbing...

[golmaal govindam]

[quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1336263518' post='1301744925']
Modi ki against ga no proofs ani vadu local ga prove cheskunnadu...and Supreme court Bench lo prove ayyindi...

but still no clear picture among other state minorities except Gujrat....


he has changed a lot annav kada.....that change is trouble for congress....in case vadini potray chesi...BJP vere states lo seats kotteste..mottam Congress Assam....central level lo...there is no chance though that he will be projected as PM candidate..kaani use cheskovachu vadini oka range lo..and BJP speakers has that capability to publicize..ade bhayam cong ki..

POTA ettesindi Minority vote bank kosame....same thing will happen with NCTC..unless next Central govt forms with a better majority than coalation succumbing...
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Law pass chesi, daanni misuse cheyadam common. Every IPC is missued in our country in every police station.

The non-congress CMs should over come their personal fears and work with center to get the law passed. Law ni misuse cheyakunda vundey la ensure chesukovacchu. Like making the body independent etc.
Entha varaku manchi law raado, anta varaku no peace in our country...