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naa point entante, one or the other, ee caste system ni and dhaani meeda politics, benefits ni misuse cheyadaniki edo oka route vethukutharu thappithe, marriages or any other wouldn't work in reality.

 

based on merit and proper income levels scrutiny unte, evariki benefits ivvalo , evariki ivvakudado filter cheyachu anukuntunna.

 

coz, oka lower caste lo unnavadiki govt benefits valla fianncial ga oka manchi position lo settle ayyi, vaalla kids ki kuda ave benefits vachhe laaga unte, they can enjoy reservation benefits even they don't need them really and it doesn't makes sense.

 

so income levels ni batti categorize chesthe for ex: a BC gazetted officer's son shouldn't come under BC/SC/ST as they will be in an upper middle class layer.

 

a bus conductor son even he is OC can be given reservation as they can't afford higher education and should consider his merit. how about this bro.. 

 

partly agree. BC rich can be denied reservation. even dalit rich can be denied. but that demand must come from BC/Dalits themselves.

 

OC cannot say what BC should do.

 

and OC should not get any reservation. their financial status is irrelevant.

 

I know you don't care what I say. but there are plenty of others who will read and agree/disagree. 

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super cheppav bhayya.

avunu mari 3000 kalla kinda unnamu antunnaru , britishers mari desaani 100 years paripalinchaaru...andaramu valla kallakinde unnamu....daaniki yemi chestaaru???

 

akkada morigina no use...inti kukka dodlo kaka , bayataku velli morugutundaaaa???

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3000 years kallakindha petti discriminate chesaru kadha..oka few decades reservation isthe thappem ledhu le man. what he did was to create balanced society. but congress played dirty games thats different issue. 

avunu mari 3000 kalla kinda unnamu antunnaru , britishers mari desaani 100 years paripalinchaaru...andaramu valla kallakinde unnamu....daaniki yemi chestaaru???

 

akkada morigina no use...inti kukka dodlo kaka , bayataku velli morugutundaaaa???

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partly agree. BC rich can be denied reservation. even dalit rich can be denied. but that demand must come from BC/Dalits themselves.

 

OC cannot say what BC should do.

 

and OC should not get any reservation. their financial status is irrelevant.

 

I know you don't care what I say. but there are plenty of others who will read and agree/disagree. 

 

aa rojulu eppudo poinai kada.

 

ippudu ala edaina unte atrocity case lu peduthunnaru. 

 

 who ever BC/SC/ST is financially well and/or in upper middle class level their next generation shouldn't come under the same category . this will certainly lead to suppressing the caste groups and financial equality will slowly erase the caste system. Ofc may not be possible in sooner time in India. 

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naa point entante, one or the other, ee caste system ni and dhaani meeda politics, benefits ni misuse cheyadaniki edo oka route vethukutharu thappithe, marriages or any other wouldn't work in reality.

 

based on merit and proper income levels scrutiny unte, evariki benefits ivvalo , evariki ivvakudado filter cheyachu anukuntunna.

 

coz, oka lower caste lo unnavadiki govt benefits valla fianncial ga oka manchi position lo settle ayyi, vaalla kids ki kuda ave benefits vachhe laaga unte, they can enjoy reservation benefits even they don't need them really and it doesn't makes sense.

 

so income levels ni batti categorize chesthe for ex: a BC gazetted officer's son shouldn't come under BC/SC/ST as they will be in an upper middle class layer.

 

a bus conductor son even he is OC can be given reservation as they can't afford higher education and should consider his merit to give him BC status. how about this bro.. 

 

 

But that doesn't take away caste system from the society. Reservations for inter-caste ante...poor people from all the caste tend to go for inter-caste marriages and claimb the ladder slowly. Who ever is down in the ladder will try to go for inter-caste marriages. The more the people are from mixed castes, the more irrelevant the castes will be. And more over, mixing among different groups always produce genetically better and healthier off-spring. Will definetly lead to homogenoous sociity. The more homegenous the society is the better development it would achive.....this is one biggest obstacle for India. Different languages, states, castes and tribes. Its very much unlike the pacific asian socieities like China, japan, Vietnam, Korea, Thailand and etc. Except Japan, rest of the countries were not well developed compared to India a few decadaes back. Now see where they are. We need a society where every one feels like just an Indian. just one identity. That can only be achived when we start from the most basic level..thats caste system in the society.

 

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avunu mari 3000 kalla kinda unnamu antunnaru , britishers mari desaani 100 years paripalinchaaru...andaramu valla kallakinde unnamu....daaniki yemi chestaaru???

 

akkada morigina no use...inti kukka dodlo kaka , bayataku velli morugutundaaaa???

Andhuke Britishers ni tharimi kottaru kadha? Ippudu OCs ni kooda tharimi gottali antava?

 

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But that doesn't take away caste system from the society. Reservations for inter-caste ante...poor people from all the caste tend to go for inter-caste marriages and claimb the ladder slowly. Who ever is down in the ladder will try to go for inter-caste marriages. The more the people are from mixed castes, the more irrelevant the castes will be. And more over, mixing among different groups always produce genetically better and healthier off-spring. Will definetly lead to homogenoous sociity. The more homegenous the society is the better development it would achive.....this is one biggest obstacle for India. Different languages, states, castes and tribes. Its very much unlike the pacific asian socieities like China, japan, Vietnam, Korea, Thailand and etc. Except Japan, rest of the countries were not well developed compared to India a few decadaes back. Now see where they are. We need a society where every one feels like just an Indian. just one identity. That can only be achived when we start from the most basic level..thats caste system in the society.

 

ex: oka BC guy marries OC girl or vice versa they'll prefer BC as their caste because of the reservations and certain benefits. they don't even think abt their financial status whether it is good or bad but still want to enjoy govt benefits by being under BC category.

 

They can simply claim the BC status by showing their BS### marriage certificate even they are financially well off . so I feel that this is not a better way to eliminate the deep rooted system in a diversified country like India and Merit/ parents income levels should be considered to give them a category to which they really belong.

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But that doesn't take away caste system from the society. Reservations for inter-caste ante...poor people from all the caste tend to go for inter-caste marriages and claimb the ladder slowly. Who ever is down in the ladder will try to go for inter-caste marriages. The more the people are from mixed castes, the more irrelevant the castes will be. And more over, mixing among different groups always produce genetically better and healthier off-spring. Will definetly lead to homogenoous sociity. The more homegenous the society is the better development it would achive.....this is one biggest obstacle for India. Different languages, states, castes and tribes. Its very much unlike the pacific asian socieities like China, japan, Vietnam, Korea, Thailand and etc. Except Japan, rest of the countries were not well developed compared to India a few decadaes back. Now see where they are. We need a society where every one feels like just an Indian. just one identity. That can only be achived when we start from the most basic level..thats caste system in the society.

 

I think poor lower caste people already do inter marriage a lot. you are saying encouraging that kind of intermarriage with reservations will make even more people do intermarriages. fine.

 

but, these mixed castes will be mala/madiga, agathiyar/arundathiyar (I don't know many telugu caste names). It won't be mala/Komati (may be 1 in 1 million). May be your intention is to create just two classes.

 

upper class and lower class, without caste difference. where some komatis, reddys also become one with malas because of their poverty, and some malas become one with the upper castes.

 

I'm still wondering how this is supposed to work. 

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ex: oka BC guy marries OC girl or vice versa they'll prefer BC as their caste because of the reservations and certain benefits. they don't think abt their financial status but still want to enjoy govt benefits by being under BC category.

 

They can simply claim the BC status by showing their BS### marriage certificate even they are financially well off . so I feel that this is not a better way to eliminate the deep rooted system in a diversified country like India and Merit/ parents income levels should be considered to give them a category to which they really belong.

 

Bro, I am proposing to remove reservations based on BCs, SCs and etc. Reservation only for inter-caste married off-spring. No reservation for BCs, no reservation for SCs and etc. Reservation for people who are product of parents from different castes.
 

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ex: oka BC guy marries OC girl or vice versa they'll prefer BC as their caste because of the reservations and certain benefits. they don't even think abt their financial status whether it is good or bad but still want to enjoy govt benefits by being under BC category.

 

They can simply claim the BC status by showing their BS### marriage certificate even they are financially well off . so I feel that this is not a better way to eliminate the deep rooted system in a diversified country like India and Merit/ parents income levels should be considered to give them a category to which they really belong.

 

yeah. what ParmQ said already exists. but he wants reservation available only for those kind of marriages.

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I think poor lower caste people already do inter marriage a lot. you are saying encouraging that kind of intermarriage with reservations will make even more people do intermarriages. fine.

 

but, these mixed castes will be mala/madiga, agathiyar/arundathiyar (I don't know many telugu caste names). It won't be mala/Komati (may be 1 in 1 million). May be your intention is to create just two classes.

 

upper class and lower class, without caste difference. where some komatis, reddys also become one with malas because of their poverty, and some malas become one with the upper castes.

 

I'm still wondering how this is supposed to work. 

 

See, if they don't want to go for inter-caste..they just have to forget about the reservation and get back in the ladder. when feel the pain of poverty...guddha kalinappudu valle chesukuntaaru.

 

No reservation based on existing personal castes. Its for the off-spring of parents who are from different castes. In 5 to 6 generations down the line, saying I am from mala, or komati, or chow or reddy should become irrelevant in the society.
 

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