Jayalalitha For Pm.

[posaanisam]

repu elections lo jayalalitha odipote position enti 

[sattipandu]

repu elections lo jayalalitha odipote position enti 

sambhar will both cry and celebrate 

[VizagRocks]

--dalits should first try and become economically stable....not easy but primary education needs an overhaul to help them use reservations more effectively..

 

-- they should take a leaf out of OBCs in UP/Bihar and for that matter in cities like Hydbad....where by becoming economically powerful lobby they can secure social and political clout.

 

-- and this eternal victimhood syndrome ...however justified they think it is....will not gel well with todays aspirational youth in India....they cannot keep claiming reservations as their right....more Jat/Patel/kapu agitations will follow....

 

--dalits cannot somehow magically turn the tables and occupy the ruling class chairs....do you think ruling classes are stupid to let that happen.....they cannot antagonize the whole Upper caste population....if this problem needs to be fixed it should a cooperative effort...

 

-- all good things and reforms that came about in hinduism did happen because of people who where "insiders" --people who did not hate Hinduism...wanted sincerely to reform the bad practices...people like Vivekananda many in telugu land kandukuri et al..and to an extent even gandhi...for all his flaws he did not hate hinduism as nehru did......no good ever came from Hindu hates like periyar et al ...

 

--form a formidable vote bank....as i said choose the friends wisely.....

 

and finally...keep leftist/Islamists and terrorist sympathizers from hijacking the pro-dalit narrative.....if dalits ..at lease educated ones like Rohith cannot see thru their BS then its really tough....

 

you may be surprised, but you are saying many of the same things Yogendra Yadav is saying. But you classify him as establishment liberal.

 

Ofcourse, he doesn't use loaded terms like 'leftist/Islamist' 'terrorist sympathizers'. Yogendra Yadav admits that the current reservation system has run its course with entrenched groups that make it impossible for the reservation system to deliver social justice that it was intended for.

 

However, there's no push for alternative reservation criteria that reflects the current realities both from the left and right. 

 

Not just Yogendra Yadav. But many independent researchers have reached the same conclusions. I have linked to an epw piece that argues for extending reservations to the private sector. It is a research article, not an opinion piece. you can look it up on the site.

[posaanisam]

sambhar will both cry and celebrate 

karunanidhi anda lo challaga untaru

[VizagRocks]

I understand that your objection is mostly on politically charged atmosphere created by dalits/lower castes, than the reservation criteria. To this I ask, do you expect dalits/lower castes to maintain poise when they are subjected to public shaming and private discrimination by peers? I don't understand why you brush this serious concern as leftist agenda. How do they concentrate on improving their life if every basic necessity is denied to them, because they don't have political clout. If they had enough numbers to command political clout like OBCs in UP/Bihar, they would've obviously done that. So that suggestion is moot too. dalits are trying to form some common ground with muslims, because their fellow Hindus mock them. Nothing else. But its obvious that they are the biggest victims of muslim aggression in rural areas, so the coalition is only temporary. The problem with your objection is that you mistake dalit assertion as political, when it is mostly social.

[tokkale]

for some reason i hate that yadav guy....i did not read what his views are....but one need not do extensive research and gather data ...to espouse the points I made....living in India among middle class/lower class normal citizens gives you fair idea of where the wrongs are...

 

that is where I have a problem with "intellectuals" who look down upon ordinary citizens esp in RW who have now found a voice thru SM...

[sattipandu]

okka point nenu cheppadaluchukunnadhi chebtha inka mee kotlata continue cheskondi

 

when a day comes, when every person looks at his equal peer(even if they are dalith or backward) as his equal in all respects of life and doesn't think they got there coz of reservation or entitlements or any other kind of special preferential treatment

 

we certainly have had made reservations (atleast the purpose of it ) obsolete...

 

meeku ardham aythey ok, kaakapoyina yedala malli manchiga detailed ga cheppamannaa , i can give it a try

 

if else continue ur barkings, your highnesses 

[VizagRocks]

for some reason i hate that yadav guy....i did not read what his views are....but one need not do extensive research and gather data ...to espouse the points I made....living in India among middle class/lower class normal citizens gives you fair idea of where the wrongs are...

 

that is where I have a problem with "intellectuals" who look down upon ordinary citizens esp in RW who have now found a voice thru SM...

 

you have a problem with intellectuals. okay, fair enough. They are elitist assholes. Agreed.

 

But you don't wish to extend the same courtesy to dalits who have a problem with how dismissively upper caste people treat them? Even if the said dalit was rich?

 

So to piss them off they hold beef festivals. Just like how you come online to mock intellectuals. Only you'll never get beaten for what you say here. But they will be.

 

You should read plenty of neutral voices (forget left/right assholes), who write with publicly available data. I add Mihir Sharma to this list also, although he's quite the provocateur, and I disagree with him on a few things. 

 

Left in any country is anti-majority, and all public academic institutions are leftist, It is not unique to India. That presence hasn't destroyed cultures.

 

Hindu resurgence can come inspite of the left's attack on Hinduism (I don't deny this at all), if every/most Hindus had the sense to carry everyone along. It is the society's job to inculcate basic courtesy to your 'aspirational' youth. 

 

Their failure to ride the economic wave is not reason enough to go around using casteist slurs from a bygone era. 

 

reservation is still a right, and always will be, if representation in public sector, that is supposed to serve 'public' using 'public' resources that everyone owns, has any meaning. But the criteria for deciding such reservations need not be caste alone.

[VizagRocks]

okka point nenu cheppadaluchukunnadhi chebtha inka mee kotlata continue cheskondi

 

when a day comes, when every person looks at his equal peer(even if they are dalith or backward) as his equal in all respects of life and doesn't think they got there coz of reservation or entitlements or any other kind of special preferential treatment

 

we certainly have had made reservations (atleast the purpose of it ) obsolete...

 

meeku ardham aythey ok, kaakapoyina yedala malli manchiga detailed ga cheppamannaa , i can give it a try

 

if else continue ur barkings, your highnesses 

artham kaale.

[VizagRocks]

ippudu artham ayyindi ra buddi. nenu cheppindhe malli nuvvu chepthunnav.

 

nenu extra em chepthunna ante, reservation ni addam pettukoni dalit lani thittadam oka daridramaina alavaatu ani.

 

veelaithe politicians tho pani cheyyinchukondi, or work to make any promise of reservation benefits to a particular caste/group as illegal and probably even unconstitutional and criminal.

 

thittaalsindhi politician ni, not the guy who's using the reservation to better his life.

[sattipandu]

artham kaale.

 

 

ippudu artham ayyindi ra buddi. nenu cheppindhe malli nuvvu chepthunnav.

 

nenu extra em chepthunna ante, reservation ni addam pettukoni dalit lani thittadam oka daridramaina alavaatu ani.

 

veelaithe politicians tho pani cheyyinchukondi, or work to make any promise of reservation benefits to a particular caste/group as illegal and probably even unconstitutional and criminal.

 

thittaalsindhi politician ni, not the guy who's using the reservation to better his life.

nekedhi first reading la ardham kaadani nenu eppudo decide ayina le 

u have that habit of reacting twice to some posts, i've seen it

 

avnu nuvvu cheppindey malli chebthunna , devoid of all ur anti-RW, anti-bjp and pro dalith inclinations.

 

Reservations were a means to make some historically oppressed,downtrodden ppl and suffered groups , rise up to equality again and be treated equals. 

somewhere down the line the purpose was lost and all hell is breaking loose now (evidence of abject back and forth's in this thread).

 

unless humanity destroys itself to atoms, end for this problem is anything but nigh

[VizagRocks]

nekedhi first reading la ardham kaadani nenu eppudo decide ayina le 

u have that habit of reacting twice to some posts, i've seen it

 

avnu nuvvu cheppindey malli chebthunna , devoid of all ur anti-RW, anti-bjp and pro dalith inclinations.

 

Reservations were a means to make some historically oppressed,downtrodden ppl and suffered groups , rise up to equality again and be treated equals. 

somewhere down the line the purpose was lost and all hell is breaking loose now (evidence of abject back and forth's in this thread).

 

unless humanity destroys itself to atoms, end for this problem is anything but nigh

 

first sarigga raayatam nerchuko, taravata you can talk down to people. second time sadhivithe ne artham avvataaniki adhem advanced maths proof kaadhu.

 

nee rest of the post etla undante, nature takes it own course, we are just spectators annattu. except you have no problem inserting yourself to comment on things you don't like, like if someone says something nasty about TG people.

 

you see, I have a problem if someone says something nasty about dalits, which people in this db regularly do. So I mock them, piss them off, as much as I can. Sometimes even proactively. May be you can do the decent thing and stay out of it. But I doubt you would.

 

The back and forths on this thread with tokkale, had nothing to do with reservations or dalits. He was just releasing his pent up anger on leftists, on me.

[sattipandu]

first sarigga raayatam nerchuko, taravata you can talk down to people. second time sadhivithe ne artham avvataaniki adhem advanced maths proof kaadhu.

 

nee rest of the post etla undante, nature takes it own course, we are just spectators annattu. except you have no problem inserting yourself to comment on things you don't like, like if someone says something nasty about TG people.

 

you see, I have a problem if someone says something nasty about dalits, which people in this db regularly do. So I mock them, piss them off, as much as I can. Sometimes even proactively. May be you can do the decent thing and stay out of it. But I doubt you would.

 

The back and forths on this thread with tokkale, had nothing to do with reservations or dalits. He was just releasing his pent up anger on leftists, on me.

adigo malli 

[VizagRocks]

buddi, nuvvu artham ayyi gif lu esthunnava, lekunte bebbe gaadiva naaku teliyatla.

 

but I don't want to insult too much. gif latho aapesko. 

 

entha ekkuva raasthe, antha pichi p laaga anipisthunnav.

[VizagRocks]

nee logic etla edchindante, pulka lani memu thidthaamu, kaani nuvvu upper caste ni thidithe oppukomu.

 

TG lo kooda upper caste vaallu unnaru ani ee defensive approach aa?