KABALI Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, VizagRocks said: Gujarat govt. is probably the worst example of governance you can pick from. Gujarat governance motham kaadhu I took onlyit (reservation/patel) as example bcoz they included all upper castes as a single entity for providing reservations/govt benefits...edho patels hadaavidi chesaaru ani vallaki okarikey kaakunda...I feel its absolutely perfect way of doing it rather mana CBN laaga kaapus ki maathramey benefits enduku... kaapu lo needy people tho paatu migata upper castes lo leraa..like reddys..Brahmins...kammas ...vaishyaas...rajus..velamas..etc etc etc (sorry if I forget any caste)...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleSteyn1 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, VizagRocks said: okay ra bhai. inka odiley. memu decide avvali vadileyala vadha ani cheppaga u dont decide we decide u guys are only supposed to take orders ani ,ippudu vadilestha nenu decide ayya kabatti nuvvu cheppav ani kaadhu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizagRocks Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, KABALI said: bro nenu emi dalits ki restrictions petukomanatam ledhu...dalits lo andaru correct antaava bro....why only got few got to limelight like Mr.ambedkar and every one respects him...bcoz he took hardship to become a amender of constitution...same dalits lo sharad pawar unnadu.....for example SC ani chepukoni mana YSR gaari ni choodandi aayana anni malli oka caste vaallaney promote chesaadu...in all means....like wise many examples unai... lets take Kanche Ilaih ... do you accept him making a CM of a state being a backward/dalit ?? the leader himself should have very good thought process about society and helping all...equal vale to all sections ... I am only familiar with TamilNadu politics. Both Muthharasu, and Thirumavalavan will rank as the best leaders in TN. Too bad both of them lost even their seats this time. I haven't seen an upper caste leader in TN who can debate and win these guys. Plus he's very knowledgeable about TN's history, needs of the state (including of dalits). There may be leaders like that elsewhere too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelingbad Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, VizagRocks said: neeku wisdom undhi ani feel avthunnava kompadeesi. Mine is atleast Debatable... DB lo andaru unanimous ga neeku ledu ani decided kada.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABALI Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, VizagRocks said: I am only familiar with TamilNadu politics. Both Muthharasu, and Thirumavalavan will rank as the best leaders in TN. Too bad both of them lost even their seats this time. I haven't seen an upper caste leader in TN who can debate and win these guys. Plus he's very knowledgeable about TN's history, needs of the state (including of dalits). There may be leaders like that elsewhere too. It's ok...nenu adhey gaa chepindhi...anyways having said by you..hope good dalit leaders (as quoted above) should come to power some time ASAP and do good to all sections of society... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizagRocks Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, DaleSteyn1 said: memu decide avvali vadileyala vadha ani cheppaga u dont decide we decide u guys are only supposed to take orders ani ,ippudu vadilestha nenu decide ayya kabatti nuvvu cheppav ani kaadhu satire ni koncham ekkuva laagaku. you'll end up looking like a bigot. But if you were actually serious about what you wrote, I have no qualms insulting upper caste in the choicest words. It's easy because I'm one of them, and I can see that most of them are fcuking entitled idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizagRocks Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Feelingbad said: Mine is atleast Debatable... DB lo andaru unanimous ga neeku ledu ani decided kada.. db lo chebithe correct ae ayyuntadhi ley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleSteyn1 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, VizagRocks said: satire ni koncham ekkuva laagaku. you'll end up looking like a bigot. But if you were actually serious about what you wrote, I have no qualms insulting upper caste in the choicest words. It's easy because I'm one of them, and I can see that most of them are fcuking entitled idiots. i am absolutely serious nuvvem anukuntavo aath care maaku because we dont give a shiat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleSteyn1 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, VizagRocks said: db lo chebithe correct ae ayyuntadhi ley. madhu koda highlight chesa comfortable ga ignore chesav ga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizagRocks Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, KABALI said: Gujarat governance motham kaadhu I took onlyit (reservation/patel) as example bcoz they included all upper castes as a single entity for providing reservations/govt benefits...edho patels hadaavidi chesaaru ani vallaki okarikey kaakunda...I feel its absolutely perfect way of doing it rather mana CBN laaga kaapus ki maathramey benefits enduku... kaapu lo needy people tho paatu migata upper castes lo leraa..like reddys..Brahmins...kammas ...vaishyaas...rajus..velamas..etc etc etc (sorry if I forget any caste)...??? both CBN and gujarat govt. are wrong. doing a caste census every 10yrs at the state level and revising reservation criteria is the only way. anyway a dalit CM conducted a caste census. Nobody else did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizagRocks Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, DaleSteyn1 said: madhu koda highlight chesa comfortable ga ignore chesav ga so 100% dalits perfect aythe ney, they can stake their claim in power antaav. alaa aithe India lo ye caste is not worthy of throwing up leaders for political office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, VizagRocks said:how is my proposal more insane? sharing power with all sections of society is what constitutes 'representative democracy'. Actually I haven't proposed anything. I'm just happy at what a dalit CM is doing. Doing a caste census will mean govt. has clear idea on how to target benefits, instead of random people claiming that their caste deserves to BC/OBC or whatever. Looks like no CM in India has done it before. 'representative democracy'...na... mental hospital lo mental fellows number ekkuva undhani...andulo okaniki migatha valla responsibilities ivvalevu ga...(I din't mean to use this analogy as a derogatory reference, but had to use this example for clarity) You should look at the valid contributing measures, not just a tag that a sect of people carry. Speaking of which, what should your caste-sensus entail? If it is just a caste tag then thats it, its insane. Imagine a G balsina SC candidate becoming a CM? What benefit that will bring? practically speaking, nothing.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleSteyn1 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, VizagRocks said: so 100% dalits perfect aythe ney, they can stake their claim in power antaav. alaa aithe India lo ye caste is not worthy of throwing up leaders for political office. so nuvvu thokka lo karnataka one example ethukochi dalits can do wonders anatle idhi anthe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizagRocks Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, Imperial said: 'representative democracy'...na... mental hospital lo mental fellows number ekkuva undhani...andulo okaniki migatha valla responsibilities ivvalevu ga...(I din't mean to use this analogy as a derogatory reference, but had to use this example for clarity) You should look at the valid contributing measures, not just a tag that a sect of people carry. Speaking of which, what should your caste-sensus entail? If it is just a caste tag then thats it, its insane. Imagine a G balsina SC candidate becoming a CM? What benefit that will bring? practically speaking, nothing.., your analogy is absolutely silly, unless you think a state is a mental asylum. caste census will obviously look at economic criteria too, urban/rural divide, access to basic necessities divide, etc. that's what a census does. G balisina SC CM ayithe, no benefit antaav. Upper caste CM ayithe enti benefit? vaalla vaalla caste vaaallaki important posts ivvatama. same chestaademo G balisina SC CM. dalit representation peruguthundemo police, IAS la lo. it doesn't matter if they are rich or poor. TN lo reservation punyamaa, ee roju top rankers lo 70% OBC, only 5% OC. It is in line with the population percentage of OCs in TN. social upheaval through politics kastam, but the stage has been set in a few states to achieve such results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizagRocks Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, DaleSteyn1 said: so nuvvu thokka lo karnataka one example ethukochi dalits can do wonders anatle idhi anthe its start of an argument. Its not a final statement. Don't be so sensitive. main point ni odilesi neeku nachindaanni pattukoni oogaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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