Why bring religion to workplace

[VizagRocks]

6 minutes ago, batman said:

you will get peanuts by decreasing starting slab. i would rather let them spend that money instead of govt collecting it.

you are going into communist marxist arena which is a FAILED ideology worldwide

hmm.. I actually think communism may not be that bad compared to what we have now.

but I wasn't going there in this conversation. not even close.

[yomama]

rofl another classic self obsessed narcissist assholee trying to spew some random shyte and justify it thumping around, all i see is a primate trying to grow up, which he never does or will, time to go to fcking mars i guess.

[VizagRocks]

23 minutes ago, tokkale said:

haha...there are more north indians now working in both organized and un organized sector sin TN now than vice a versa....

and the issue was with the glorification of HDI numbers in a standalone fashion...without actual jobs or any growth....

true no one outside TN cares for grade inflation and other stupid policies of TN ....only when idiots project the HDI numbers and other indicators as the corner stone of how cool TN/Kerala is people point it out....

and the lame excuse that RSS is closer to home....again the sheer idiocy of even comparing it or projecting it as an extremist org is laughable....people on ground know better....

as they say time will tell.....but i repeat RW should not fall for this trap of "pleasing everyone" .....not going to happen...better to stick to planning and executing electoral victories.....you have to be in the ring to fight...not outside...

Okay I may be too harsh on the RSS. lets just say RSS+certain caste groups (not just upper castes) in power, have the ability to bring India down.

This is not a liberal/conservative conversation at all. india's social dynamics are too primitive for such conversations to be meaningful.

[batman]

going by your delusional denial mode approach and glossy pseodo liberalism, i am certain your shakha pramukh did a very bad job (lol). you just got a bad pramukh, why blame the whole rss

[VizagRocks]

1 minute ago, batman said:

going by your delusional denial mode approach and glossy pseodo liberalism, i am certain your shakha pramukh did a very bad job (lol). you just got a bad pramukh, why blame the whole rss

what am in denial about? the ability of a pre-medieval social system like caste, to push India to super power status?

[tokkale]

blaming and labeling the entire organization based on some SM lunatic's idiotic nonsense ( vis a visa TN girls murder).....haha...as I said liberals standard argument...our bigotry is pristine....but hey if you label all muslims you are a blot on humanity.....

I can point you to many FB posts Tweets from the Periyar gang where they justify and brag about how the Brahmin girl killed had it coming....

come to think of it even an online media outlet wrote a disgusting article about how the girl was a poster girl of the successful upper caster people and how that pisses off others in TN.....that you hate RSS because of your personal experience is clear...so lets leave it at that....

and seriously comparing hindi belt with TN ....TN always had an head start in econimic growth....even during the british raj.....compare how north was treated because they rebelled against the raj and how most of south had the british patronage because south was happy with bending over backwards for the british....

as the other guy here pointed out ...your socialist views on economic policies are outdated and will not resonate with the aspirational youth...increasing the income tax on the organized sector will not work....

no one cares about the historic oppression that you talk about....a 20 year old urban/sub urban youth will ask the reasonable question ..why should I pay for the state's largesse given to others......it may not be correct in your view....but I can see where it is coming from.....

you always boil down to dumbing down the argument to "shame the upper castes/let them pay/dalits are oppressed" ....while the dalits are still in need of state support in every which way they can get is undeniable...but not at the cost of pissing off other communities...it will only widen the divide.... 

[VizagRocks]

3 minutes ago, tokkale said:

blaming and labeling the entire organization based on some SM lunatic's idiotic nonsense ( vis a visa TN girls murder).....haha...as I said liberals standard argument...our bigotry is pristine....but hey if you label all muslims you are a blot on humanity.....

I can point you to many FB posts Tweets from the Periyar gang where they justify and brag about how the Brahmin girl killed had it coming....

come to think of it even an online media outlet wrote a disgusting article about how the girl was a poster girl of the successful upper caster people and how that pisses off others in TN.....that you hate RSS because of your personal experience is clear...so lets leave it at that....

and seriously comparing hindi belt with TN ....TN always had an head start in econimic growth....even during the british raj.....compare how north was treated because they rebelled against the raj and how most of south had the british patronage because south was happy with bending over backwards for the british....

as the other guy here pointed out ...your socialist views on economic policies are outdated and will not resonate with the aspirational youth...increasing the income tax on the organized sector will not work....

no one cares about the historic oppression that you talk about....a 20 year old urban/sub urban youth will ask the reasonable question ..why should I pay for the state's largesse given to others......it may not be correct in your view....but I can see where it is coming from.....

you always boil down to dumbing down the argument to "shame the upper castes/let them pay/dalits are oppressed" ....while the dalits are still in need of state support in every which way they can get is undeniable...but not at the cost of pissing off other communities...it will only widen the divide.... 

The difference btwn the periyar gang, and the other gang is that the other gang is in power, and can implement their agenda.

what you call as 'pissing off other communities', is just regular dalits trying to live their daily life. Why do you Jayalalitha got elected again? Are you going to bet that TN will fall off the economic map in about 10/20/30yrs?

[batman]

rss is right wing not extremist. not dangerous as much as you are alluding to.

there is something called truth and reconciliation.

until we accept the truth as it is we will never be able to reconcile to what exactly we are in denial about

 

[VizagRocks]

6 minutes ago, tokkale said:

blaming and labeling the entire organization based on some SM lunatic's idiotic nonsense ( vis a visa TN girls murder).....haha...as I said liberals standard argument...our bigotry is pristine....but hey if you label all muslims you are a blot on humanity.....

I can point you to many FB posts Tweets from the Periyar gang where they justify and brag about how the Brahmin girl killed had it coming....

come to think of it even an online media outlet wrote a disgusting article about how the girl was a poster girl of the successful upper caster people and how that pisses off others in TN.....that you hate RSS because of your personal experience is clear...so lets leave it at that....

and seriously comparing hindi belt with TN ....TN always had an head start in econimic growth....even during the british raj.....compare how north was treated because they rebelled against the raj and how most of south had the british patronage because south was happy with bending over backwards for the british....

as the other guy here pointed out ...your socialist views on economic policies are outdated and will not resonate with the aspirational youth...increasing the income tax on the organized sector will not work....

no one cares about the historic oppression that you talk about....a 20 year old urban/sub urban youth will ask the reasonable question ..why should I pay for the state's largesse given to others......it may not be correct in your view....but I can see where it is coming from.....

you always boil down to dumbing down the argument to "shame the upper castes/let them pay/dalits are oppressed" ....while the dalits are still in need of state support in every which way they can get is undeniable...but not at the cost of pissing off other communities...it will only widen the divide.... 

Every state in India is copying TN's neoliberal policies. Its obvious they are working.

TN was one of the first state to implement industrial specific policies, estates, etc. RW hatred for TN and its success is astounding.

 

[VizagRocks]

I didn't mean that Jayalalitha got elected because she was pro dalit. If anything she's anti dalit (politically). She got elected, because she implemented populist schemes, which is what other states are trying to copy.

laughing at TN is not going to make TN or its success go away.

[VizagRocks]

If only RW showed the kind of enthusiasm about Guj's governance before 2014, the way they show for TN now. Alas.

Atleast americans have the honesty to accept that Trump's ascension is purely on racial bigotry. Indians couched it as 'development'.

[tokkale]

3 minutes ago, VizagRocks said:

The difference btwn the periyar gang, and the other gang is that the other gang is in power, and can implement their agenda.

what you call as 'pissing off other communities', is just regular dalits trying to live their daily life. Why do you Jayalalitha got elected again? Are you going to bet that TN will fall off the economic map in about 10/20/30yrs?

again you are extrapolating some random people's nonsense as the official line of RSS on some crimes ...that happen in every part of India....

point me to the policies adopted by BJP with RSS's blessings in the last 2 years which are outright communal or anti-dalit ....substantiate your argument..

and to your point that periyar gang is not in power...well is DMK cadre not strong in TN even when they are in opposition ...are the atrocities committed on upper castes esp Brahmins in small towns (random priests) not true.....periyar's hate filled idea is still in power in TN....

surely TN's economic model is not sustainable....let them give up TASMAC and support the exchequer ....average TN people's hate for rest of India is also amusing.....

 

[batman]

12 minutes ago, tokkale said:

blaming and labeling the entire organization based on some SM lunatic's idiotic nonsense ( vis a visa TN girls murder).....haha...as I said liberals standard argument...our bigotry is pristine....but hey if you label all muslims you are a blot on humanity.....

I can point you to many FB posts Tweets from the Periyar gang where they justify and brag about how the Brahmin girl killed had it coming....

come to think of it even an online media outlet wrote a disgusting article about how the girl was a poster girl of the successful upper caster people and how that pisses off others in TN.....that you hate RSS because of your personal experience is clear...so lets leave it at that....

and seriously comparing hindi belt with TN ....TN always had an head start in econimic growth....even during the british raj.....compare how north was treated because they rebelled against the raj and how most of south had the british patronage because south was happy with bending over backwards for the british....

as the other guy here pointed out ...your socialist views on economic policies are outdated and will not resonate with the aspirational youth...increasing the income tax on the organized sector will not work....

no one cares about the historic oppression that you talk about....a 20 year old urban/sub urban youth will ask the reasonable question ..why should I pay for the state's largesse given to others......it may not be correct in your view....but I can see where it is coming from.....

you always boil down to dumbing down the argument to "shame the upper castes/let them pay/dalits are oppressed" ....while the dalits are still in need of state support in every which way they can get is undeniable...but not at the cost of pissing off other communities...it will only widen the divide.... 

those two lines hit the nail on the head. i mean if som1 criticizes muslims islam based on some incidents then they are bigots and its wrong aand one shouldn't paint every one with the same brush. but then based on some RW tweets go ahead and paint every bjp voter, rss as iidotic lunatic fringe dangerous.

this is what is the liberal hypocrisy 

[VizagRocks]

this is the 21st century. dalits have right to piss off other communities, the way Hindu right does. They do a good job in bringing out the inner casteist in every self proclaimed 'not interested in caste' Hindu.

These phonies have to be exposed for what they are. It includes even some OBC castes.

[tokkale]

other states will catch up with industrial growth....only a matter of time...as I said south had better education and employment numbers even before independence....

tax devolution argument while much needed ...is not viable in a federal structure.....lot of moving pieces to consider....and no answer to every such question is not secession as some idiots in TN bat for.....