Communal tensions in West Bengal - Dhulagadh

[Bhai]

20 minutes ago, 4Vikram said:

watch the video and talk about it,,, yes I agree irrespective of religion any action should be taken but here the suffering is being done to Hindus not any, if any of such case happened to other religion then it would have been a bigger mess around the country now

Wtf centre is doing.

 

india has witnessed these kinda unfortunate incidents on a larger scale and still haven't learnt a single lesson.

[micxas]

7 minutes ago, Bhai said:

That's what I was referring to.

 

lets spread the truth, not others evil intentions.

Yeah, The truth is incident actually happened and if your concern is morphed photos can make things worst yes I agree. I will remove the first video

[4Vikram]

1 minute ago, Bhai said:

Look at history of riots in India it hasn't spared a single religion, community not even language.

 

 

yeah I know there were many but what I am talking about is current situation. please go through this, you dont need to study the whole matter here just look the main titles then you will understand who suffered more 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India

[Bhai]

2 minutes ago, micxas said:

Yeah, The truth is incident actually happened and if your concern is morphed photos can make things worst yes I agree. I will remove the first video

[micxas]

35 minutes ago, 4Vikram said:

video sudu baa deenama nina pichi lesindi, donga munda mona army routine process ki racha chesindi ipudu asalu patha kuda lekunda poindi.. govt di kuda thapu ee love da vere valu emana cheste racha chestaru, ipudu na bjp munduku raledu na congi or naa aap edi raledu.. and look at that aa hole from tcp he is denying it directly 

did i gave you any proof about that photo you pasted? nuvu hoax ani poster esnav kada, i just showed you some facts anthe 

choosa, as expected at least he didn't shout 

[4Vikram]

3 minutes ago, Bhai said:

Wtf centre is doing.

 

india has witnessed these kinda unfortunate incidents on a larger scale and still haven't learnt a single lesson.

YES even I question that wtf center is doing now.. no one even showed up from any parties that is the worst part.. to some extent you can believe that yes that is just because of Hindus who are suffering here it is not making a big issue here, as you dont have much vote bank when compared to other religions. 

[4Vikram]

1 minute ago, micxas said:

choosa, as expected at least he didn't shout 

a hole he is simply laughing and shouting that nothing has been found in previous cases also anta 

[Bhai]

31 minutes ago, batman said:

ala chesthe muzzies ekkuva migalaru emo

1.6B andaru ala aithe tappadu

[micxas]

1 minute ago, 4Vikram said:

a hole he is simply laughing and shouting that nothing has been found in previous cases also anta 

Denial mode  

[micxas]

4 minutes ago, 4Vikram said:

YES even I question that wtf center is doing now.. no one even showed up from any parties that is the worst part.. to some extent you can believe that yes that is just because of Hindus who are suffering here it is not making a big issue here, as you dont have much vote bank when compared to other religions. 

Law and order is a state issue, center is not suppose to involve unless things are really worse. Federalism 

Okevela excite ayi involve ayina state rights tokkesarani antaru 

[lazybugger]

9 hours ago, micxas said:

Okay, question... How many muslim majority counties are out there in South Asia and how many of them are democratic?

How many muslim majority counties are there in Asia and how many of them are democratic?

How many muslim majority counties are there in the world  and how many of them are democratic?

There are 50 plus musilm majorty countries in the world and afaik  less than 10% are democratic and allows the rest to live in peace. So unless if there is something fundamentally wrong what are we missing?

How is that relevant to any discussion? Unless you want to discuss how pathetic Islam is. I can have that conversation only if you are willing to be honest about how pathetic every religion is, especially Hinduism. If you are worried about how political Islam is crap and doesn't respect minorities, I can point out to how political Hinduism (Hindutva) allows extraction of wealth from India, benefits the richest and keeps its citizens poor. India has the highest number of poor people in the world. 

9 hours ago, micxas said:

Yes.. Motivation is simple and clear, islamization of India. 

https://www.quora.com/Are-Islamic-terrorists-who-are-killed-in-action-admitted-to-the-seventh-heaven-of-Allahs-heaven/answer/Rami-Sivan

No. It is not that 'simple and clear'. You chose to avoid the person who is at the middle of all this, and assume everything that is because of their religion, just because some people say "allahuakbar", before they blow themselves up?. Btw, I didn't read that link. I just assumed it'd be some pseudo theological BS about Islam.

 

9 hours ago, micxas said:

Because quran tells them to do it, there is nothing that ISIS is doing which Mohammed himself did not do. I/ several other people gave detailed answers in previous threads on  how/ what Islam did to india through out the history. If you haven't read or chose to ignore what else we can do.  I am not saying everyone is violent in a particular religion, but you don't need 1000 people to kill 1000 humans when you are a suicide bomber. 

The point you are missing is those guys are not just representing ISLAM they are actually doing what their book told them to do and what MHMD  and his successors did.  And there are several quotes out there if you want to look.

https://www.quora.com/If-a-Muslims-crime-is-attributed-to-Islam-why-not-attribute-a-Hindus-crime-to-Hinduism/answer/Ram-Abloh

Coming back to RSS The only way to say RSS represent Hinduism is by quoting the scriptures and actions, governance of RSS. Show me the relation b/w them and I will agree, I am not a supporter of RSS anyways. The existence of RSS and its mother org. Hindu Mahasabha was came into place to counter the Muslim League in the first place.

Again, you repeat the same fallacy over and over. Ram Sene also claims several things about Ram or Hinduism, doesn't make them representative of Hinduism. ISIS doesn't represent Islam. period.

What did Islam do to India, that is worse than what Hinduism did to India? 

Ofcourse you are not saying everyone is violent in a religion, but you are 'dehumanizing' people who follow Islam, based on your half baked understanding of Islam itself. 

 

9 hours ago, micxas said:

Generalization did not help and I don't think it is a good idea either. What really helps is going back to the roots of the problem, in this case the root is the book itself.  If Dalits are allowed to burn Manu Smrithi when it was being shown as evil against Sudras then why not the world question QURAN .. why not people get rid of Violence in Quuran and keep telling lies that it is religion of peace when the whole history is filled with violence. You seem to be not okay because that gives Hindus an edge.

 I didn't start the thread as a political conversation. My concern is  more about existence of Hinduism.  One or more attacks by Hindus cannot be shown as an example when the whole history of Islam esp. in india is filled with violence and mass conversions.

What happened to Christianity around 300-400 years ago in Europe should also happen to all  other Abrahamic Faiths otherwise there is no way minorities can live peacefully in respective regions. 

 That Dalits are allowed to burn manu smriti is a good thing. Its a book that enslaved them for centuries. It exists even today.

Are you asking why are Hindus not allowed to burn Quran? Did quran enslave Hindus? Are Hindus today living under the boot of Islam in India? They may be living so in Pak or Bangladesh. Are you trying to speak for them? How, by pissing on muslims in India? How does that help them?

History of Islam, and of Hinduism is completely violent. Do you think hindu kings were kind and benevolent? Everyone was a crazy mf in those times.

Do you even realise how dangerous your entire thought thread is, even though you may be fundamentally a decent person? You link random social disturbance, to lack of democracy in the Islam world, and conclude that there's something that's wrong with Islam itself.

So what is your solution? If Islam is so wrong, should we ban Islam, drive muslims out of India, bomb all these Islamic places and kill them because they are our enemies? If you take your arguments to a logical ending, that'll be the solution. It may shock you, but not others who support this view. Just look around. See the kind of people who support the kind of things you say about muslims. Are they decent people? If you think they are decent people, good luck to you. Pls don't quote me again, and waste my time with your idiotic arguments.

 

[lazybugger]

9 hours ago, micxas said:

Brother see the response when specific questions were asked in this thread. Again I think no one is hating people here, we were just asking questions. 

 

dude, stop this BS man. Never has Bhai said muslim attacks are good. he only defends his religion as his conviction.

I'll also defend my atheism. Its my conviction. Be a little fair man.

[lazybugger]

9 hours ago, micxas said:

How can you  say anything against a video when it is not posted in the first place

The first video visuals, some of them may or may not doctored but the intension was to show an incident like this was happened. You seem to divert it by posting some morphed photos. Anyways I cross checked through several sources before posting a thread.

 

lol. do you deny posting them yourself?

[lazybugger]

9 hours ago, Bhai said:

did i say anything abut this video??

dude, they are serious denial about their reflected bigotry. don't fret. ignore them.

[lazybugger]

9 hours ago, micxas said:

Yeah, The truth is incident actually happened and if your concern is morphed photos can make things worst yes I agree. I will remove the first video

finally. some sense.