Narasimha Rao is not the best PM in India.

[batman]

11 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

because I'm not affected by Muslim bigotry, I can take a dispassionate stand on it. I have met some very incredibly smart muslims, arabs who are atheists, etc. No, they don't automatically start abusing Islam just because they are atheists. The climate is such that, abusing Islam will add to even more resentment and marginalizing of muslims in the mainstream. I understand that distinction.

But Hindu bigotry is very close to home. In conversations with cousins, your former maths teacher, your uncles, etc. I can't call them 'oppressed' except in their fantasy land that goes back a 1000yrs. I haven't yet tuned myself to ignore it. 

Its extremely nauseating. 

muzzie bigotry happens when they are in majority....examples are there across world. they just cannot stay with other minorities with all their concepts of darul izzlam

you can wait until that affects your. one thing i can guarantee that if and when it affects you it will be much more than just nausea

[batman]

6 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

what a horrible question.

What exactly do you think the role of a govt. is? how should it deal with aspirations of all sections of people? These are the right questions. 

 

i am not asking a question. just paraphrasing what can be implied by your suggestions

[lazybugger]

3 minutes ago, batman said:

but abusing hinduism/modi will not add to even more resentment and marginalizing of hindutva guys/bhakts in the mainstream. but of course some cannot understand that distinction.

Again you conveniently move back and forth from real life and db. I have only mocked Modi, made humorous passes at Hinduism. I can hardly call people here as 'marginalized'. 

I haven't yet tried this in real life. But I will, of course. It'll give me great peace of mind, not havin to deal with bullshit. One can only hope that resentment among poor Hindutva people makes them ditch Hindutva and join a more purposeful organization.

If they can't do that, and go beserk on people, you've just described what happened to Kashmiri Pandits and likely justified it.

Hindutva is not Hinduism. I think that much is obvious, right?

[babu_bangaram]

I could not stop myself from writing here ...... 

everyone knows how congress has looted the country (many forms and shapes) still few people support them ....... 

but i did get my answer after reading one of the posts ......... 

i thought people when they become literate (when they study) their intellect increases, they look at circumstances and situations and comment and nt talk about people ...... but ekkuvva chadivithe vunna mati poyindi annaru ..... i feel that is true ......

hope god save us all............" Sarva Dharma Sambhava "

[lazybugger]

1 minute ago, babu_bangaram said:

I could not stop myself from writing here ...... 

everyone knows how congress has looted the country (many forms and shapes) still few people support them ....... 

but i did get my answer after reading one of the posts ......... 

i thought people when they become literate (when they study) their intellect increases, they look at circumstances and situations and comment and nt talk about people ...... but ekkuvva chadivithe vunna mati poyindi annaru ..... i feel that is true ......

hope god save us all............" Sarva Dharma Sambhava "

Its the Congress that looted the country. mainly the upper caste people that did it. Now they come under a different party name. Same sh1t.

ekkuva chadivithey, you'll empathize with the other person. So it is not so easy to make decisions compared to people who just go by their experience or instinct.

edhi better oo, edhi worse oo, nobody can say. We need both.

but the thing is, people who are oppressed will fight back, and BJP or its cronies are not part of the oppressed. They are just pretenders. The real oppressed people will fight back one day. On that day, chaduvukunnodu, chaduvu leni vodu, no difference.

 

[ManOnFire]

kummey bro.. full support neekey...

[batman]

6 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

Again you conveniently move back and forth from real life and db. I have only mocked Modi, made humorous passes at Hinduism. I can hardly call people here as 'marginalized'. 

I haven't yet tried this in real life. But I will, of course. It'll give me great peace of mind, not havin to deal with bullshit. One can only hope that resentment among poor Hindutva people makes them ditch Hindutva and join a more purposeful organization.

If they can't do that, and go beserk on people, you've just described what happened to Kashmiri Pandits and likely justified it.

Hindutva is not Hinduism. I think that much is obvious, right?

ha ha ha .....have to salute u bro for your one eyed views. u want poor hindutva guys to ditch hindutva but wont say a word abt muzzies izlamization or that  poor muxzzies should ditch izlam.

lol i guess izlamization is more purposeful than hindutva  

[lazybugger]

14 minutes ago, batman said:

muzzie bigotry happens when they are in majority....examples are there across world. they just cannot stay with other minorities with all their concepts of darul izzlam

you can wait until that affects your. one thing i can guarantee that if and when it affects you it will be much more than just nausea

First let Hindus start treating fellow Hindus equally, then we'll come to muslims. Otherwise this imaginary distinction will slowly lose its potency.

Hindu castes will iron out differences and form coalitions with muslims, and things will take a very unexpected turn.

Sitting inside a 'Hindu' bubble without addressing HIndu issues come with their own set of problems.

[lazybugger]

2 minutes ago, batman said:

ha ha ha .....have to salute u bro for your one eyed views. u want poor hindutva guys to ditch hindutva but wont say a word abt muzzies izlamization or that  poor muxzzies should ditch izlam.

lol i guess izlamization is more purposeful than hindutva  

don't be so desperate to win an argument. I meant disenfranchised Hindus picking up worthy causes beyond religion, something that is more helpful towards their livelihood.

perhaps communism, even. or just labour unions to demand ownership for labourers. plenty of stuff to do, without injecting religion into politics, which you seem so keen on for Hindus to indulge in, while deriding politicization of Islam.

I can't understand how you can call me a hypocrite.

[lazybugger]

Hindus are not oppressed. To an extent, liberal views dominate the discourse in India, but only because the alternate is either outright feudalism, or authoritarianism through hindutva.

speaking against Hindutva doesn't make one a liberal. It just makes him a Hindutva hater.

If you want to speak your experience as a Hindu outside of the liberal consensus, please do. It is what is needed in current india. A workable, decent alternative to liberalism which has failed.

What is happening today? This alternative is fake outrages, through fake news. Even in this db, there was an asshole who made up an imaginary story about how a dalit cheated his parents off a substantial amount, and filed a police case for atrocity. That idiot completely shut his story when challenged. This type of dishonest victim mongering is what has been the reaction to liberal nonsense.

Hindutva could have succeeded, but unfortunately seems to be populated with incompetent morons, headed by Modi. 

[batman]

5 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

First let Hindus start treating fellow Hindus equally, then we'll come to muslims. Otherwise this imaginary distinction will slowly lose its potency.

Hindu castes will iron out differences and form coalitions with muslims, and things will take a very unexpected turn.

Sitting inside a 'Hindu' bubble without addressing HIndu issues come with their own set of problems.

what is new abt that? in UP,bihar muzzies are already doing that with yadavs etc to defeat modi coz modi is a stick in their ass. Building coalitions where they are i majority is out of question. once they are majority they will only crush the others minorities

[batman]

25 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

don't be so desperate to win an argument. I meant disenfranchised Hindus picking up worthy causes beyond religion, something that is more helpful towards their livelihood.

perhaps communism, even. or just labour unions to demand ownership for labourers. plenty of stuff to do, without injecting religion into politics, which you seem so keen on for Hindus to indulge in, while deriding politicization of Islam.

I can't understand how you can call me a hypocrite.

yes "Hindus picking up worthy causes beyond religion, something that is more helpful towards their livelihood"

but disenfranchised muzzies can pick violent izlamization against the affluent classes

[TheBrahmabull]

6 hours ago, lazybugger said:

Nehru remains the best PM.

rest all, either hindutva trash or neo-liberal bullshitters.

Manmohan Singh is the more decent among the neo-liberal bullshitters.

Narasimha Rao comes in 3rd.

rest are all not worthy of mention. Modi, Indira Gandhi belong right at the bottom.

aaah endi raa Nehru best aa ? ..  "WE" indians dont want decent one, we want dedicated one ( you are excluded ) ..

Agree with Narasimha Rao - as of now he is 1st in my list..  inga poyi jallikattu sambaralu chesuko po..

[lazybugger]

3 minutes ago, batman said:

yes "Hindus picking up worthy causes beyond religion, something that is more helpful towards their livelihood"

but disenfranchised muzzies can pick violent izlamization against the affluent classes

you are trying to put words in my mouth. I'm not for Islamization. This db doesn't have muslims.

defend your stand on Hindus, as you are among Hindus, and stop trying to deflect Hindutva's failure to create jobs, and its penchant for half-assed authoritarianism.

 

[lazybugger]

10 minutes ago, batman said:

what is new abt that? in UP,bihar muzzies are already doing that with yadavs etc to defeat modi coz modi is a stick in their ass. Building coalitions where they are i majority is out of question. once they are majority they will only crush the others minorities

you call that coalition? lol. I'm talking of things beyond immediate political benefit. perhaps even a revolution.

extended run for Hindutva will destabilize India.