Narasimha Rao is not the best PM in India.

[Bangaruu]

Just now, lazybugger said:

okay bangaruu. I take your suggestion, and get out.

[lazybugger]

Just now, Bangaruu said:

I said, I'll get out, bangaaru. Not you.

 

[batman]

5 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

I don't watch barkha dutt. I still haven't heard what your 'knowledge' is on Kashmir.

Anyway, I'm bored. I'm out.

as expected. anyways let me help you.....if you do want to get real knowledge/facts on this.....read some of rahul pandita's writings or even his book called "our moon has blood clots" . rahul pandita is no hindutva guy, infact he is more left leaning writer/journo. but the book he wrote is based on his own experience 

[Bangaruu]

6 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

I said, I'll get out, bangaaru. Not you.

 

[8OY]

6 minutes ago, batman said:

as expected. anyways let me help you.....if you do want to get real knowledge/facts on this.....read some of rahul pandita's writings or even his book called "our moon has blood clots" . rahul pandita is no hindutva guy, infact he is more left leaning writer/journo. but the book he wrote is based on his own experience 

peekinav le.. neeku unna half knowledga tho preach chesindi challe gani xei

[lazybugger]

2 minutes ago, batman said:

as expected. anyways let me help you.....if you do want to get real knowledge/facts on this.....read some of rahul pandita's writings or even his book called "our moon has blood clots" . rahul pandita is no hindutva guy, infact he is more left leaning writer/journo. but the book he wrote is based on his own experience 

Its cute how you try to talk down to me, when all you have is to offer a book recommendation.

I have read this book, and take away something entirely different from what you did. 

This is because of my other readings of similar tragedies. like in Srilanka. And also books from other Kashmiri writers like Basharat Peer.

[lazybugger]

10 minutes ago, batman said:

as expected. anyways let me help you.....if you do want to get real knowledge/facts on this.....read some of rahul pandita's writings or even his book called "our moon has blood clots" . rahul pandita is no hindutva guy, infact he is more left leaning writer/journo. but the book he wrote is based on his own experience 

I doubt you read the book. anyway I'm out.

[8OY]

1 hour ago, batman said:

but only lazybugger knows the "actual facts" which is what i am trying to know. wanted to know where he read the "true facts" maybe written by some professor of a university setup by nehru. coz only they are intellects and by reading them could also help low on logic and competitiveness  hindutva guys 

modi anagane g egaresukuni vachesava item saale mari nuvu cheppinde ga raasaru constitution lo dhed dhimak ga

[8OY]

1 minute ago, lazybugger said:

I doubt you read the book. anyway I'm out.

out out anukunta ikade sachav kadara gaadida akada steyn gadu ne kosam waiting

[batman]

2 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

Its cute how you try to talk down to me, when all you have is to offer a book recommendation.

I have read this book, and take away something entirely different from what you did. 

This is because of my other readings of similar tragedies. like in Srilanka. And also books from other Kashmiri writers like Basharat Peer.

i gave book recommendation to make things easy for you since you dont take words of "hindutva" guys like me.

my knowledge goes beyond this book.

if u have truly read pandita book, then u have been kidding all this while and that pandits taking jobs and all is a joke you are playing around.

btw i have read bashaarat peer book too. timeline of peer's book is after pandita's book (u will know if have actually read both books)

[batman]

4 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

I doubt you read the book. anyway I'm out.

i have the same debt on you, coz if u actually read that book u wouldn't have said all the bullshit abt pandits in ur previous posts

[8OY]

1 minute ago, batman said:

i gave book recommendation to make things easy for you since you dont take words of "hindutva" guys like me.

my knowledge goes beyond this book.

if u have truly read pandita book, then u have been kidding all this while and that pandits taking jobs and all is a joke you are playing around.

btw i have read bashaarat peer book too. timeline of peer's book is after pandita's book (u will know if have actually read both books)

arey kodi dhimak ga prapancham lo enni religions unnai andulo hindu okati. nuvu andulo puttinantha matrana adi goppadi avadu or viceversa. america vachaka asian ani pettava? leka bracket lo hindu ani kuda raasava? gaali lk ga.. ne lanti edavalu valle mana desham intha chandalam gayyindi. maarandi ra babu. kulam kulam ani kottuku savakapothe bathakaleru ra?? bloody mofos

[lazybugger]

38 minutes ago, batman said:

i gave book recommendation to make things easy for you since you dont take words of "hindutva" guys like me.

my knowledge goes beyond this book.

if u have truly read pandita book, then u have been kidding all this while and that pandits taking jobs and all is a joke you are playing around.

btw i have read bashaarat peer book too. timeline of peer's book is after pandita's book (u will know if have actually read both books)

That book is just another description of what went on during the migration. It was an important reminder how not to push the 'Kashmiriyat' nonsense discourse in mainstream media and brush the actions of the muslims at that time under the carpet. It has to do with challenging the liberal elite's condescension of not accepting that Kashmiri Muslims too can be extremely cruel. I didn't invoke Kashmiriyat, I didn't deny the exile, so how helpful is it to refer it in this conversation?

Your question was about why Kashmiri pandits were exiled. Since it is common knowledge that Kashmir has been slowly islamized in the 80s, I jumped to one of the factors why it was, and how the flashpoint for the exile occurred. Everyone knows that the elections in Kashmir was rigged. Or do you deny that the elections were rigged? Who will the extremist voices blame in such a scenario? What exactly are you denying? be specific.

Anyways, its surprising that your reading of Rahul Pandita's book didn't give you the sense that perhaps muslims today are going through similar social boycott, especially after Modi became PM. 

If the only thing you could take away was that Islam is evil, then by all means do. My take away is that desperate people do desperate things. Hindu/Muslim no difference. Which is why it is important to arrive at the truth, and try to maintain a modicum of fairness in public issues, and not allow issue to get out of hand.

I understand you don't care about muslims, so be a gentleman and stop trolling me. Troll the db if you want to, with excerpts from Rahul Pandita's book. I thought it was okay, and important addition to conversation on Kashmir. But I wouldn't draw any important lessons from it.

[lazybugger]

39 minutes ago, batman said:

i have the same debt on you, coz if u actually read that book u wouldn't have said all the bullshit abt pandits in ur previous posts

first I don't base my arguments on first person account books that are heavily biased.. my claim about Pandits cornering the govt jobs was from the book by Jagmohan, the then governor of kashmir.

Interestingly, I am not averse to reading accounts of sanghis, as long as they are consistent with the truth.

He clearly mentions that there was very high unemployment among muslims, due to lack of proper education, and lack of access to govt jobs to them. 

How is this bullshit? Because Pandita talks about the time when relations were normal among Hindus and Muslims?

[batman]

12 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

That book is just another description of what went on during the migration. It was an important reminder how not to push the 'Kashmiriyat' nonsense discourse in mainstream media and brush the actions of the muslims at that time under the carpet. It has to do with challenging the liberal elite's condescension of not accepting that Kashmiri Muslims too can be extremely cruel. I didn't invoke Kashmiriyat, I didn't deny the exile, so how helpful is it to refer it in this conversation?

Your question was about why Kashmiri pandits were exiled. Since it is common knowledge that Kashmir has been slowly islamized in the 80s, I jumped to one of the factors why it was, and how the flashpoint for the exile occurred. Everyone knows that the elections in Kashmir was rigged. Or do you deny that the elections were rigged? Who will the extremist voices blame in such a scenario? What exactly are you denying? be specific.

Anyways, its surprising that your reading of Rahul Pandita's book didn't give you the sense that perhaps muslims today are going through similar social boycott, especially after Modi became PM. 

If the only thing you could take away was that Islam is evil, then by all means do. My take away is that desperate people do desperate things. Hindu/Muslim no difference. Which is why it is important to arrive at the truth, and try to maintain a modicum of fairness in public issues, and not allow issue to get out of hand.

I understand you don't care about muslims, so be a gentleman and stop trolling me. Troll the db if you want to, with excerpts from Rahul Pandita's book. I thought it was okay, and important addition to conversation on Kashmir. But I wouldn't draw any important lessons from it.

extend this magnanimity towards upper chaste assholes too