A P Youth fight for speical status.. follow PK

[Android_Halwa]

3 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

I doubt if central govt is really strong at the moment. with the news of job losses I'm hearing about from India. I think 2017 will be horrible for India. But you are right, the time is probably not right for an agitation.

Even the demands are half baked at best. But it is a good testing ground to see if people want to agitate or not. I predict that not many people will turn up at the PK agitation, but few weeks later, somewhere else this movement picks up.

Again, it doesn't matter if its a flop. There's no izzat involved here. AP will remain an awesome place to do business, with a friendly govt inspite of what happens on 26th. except people will congregate on 26th and exchange their aspirations and grievances, and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

The issue is valid...but the time is not right. It will be hijacked for political mileage. It doesnt really matter if the govt is strong ot not because of reason but, The govt is very strong in numbers. No other party has capacity to capture government or push to corner. The strongest in numbers in the last 30 years and this special status issue is just one issue, not a major issue for center. 

the right time would be end of 2018 when India and AP goes to election in April 2019. 

Do it once, Do it big..if you expect to do such thing once every quarter or whenever PK has a break from his shootings, It will loose the momentum. This protest will be remembered for reasons how not to protest. 

the result of it would go to Jagan..Creating public anger on an issue has always benefitted the opposition leaders, in this Case Jagan. PK is too early and he has to wait to cash on such things.

[Android_Halwa]

9 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

The most important thing is, Is there a sense of victimization among AP youth as Andhras in the hands of an indifferent central govt? If yes, there's no good or bad time to tap into it.

 

The issue is not about victimization. It's an emotional thing and looking at demographics after the bifurcation, very few has chosen to move back and considering the size of the population, it's negligible. Youth will feel victims when there is a lack of opportunities as it happened in the case of Telangana, but when it comes to Andhra, it doesn't hold good as the issues are completely different. The present youth are pretty much local and they have been there since birth. 

Such type of protest will result in the further division based on their choice of film orientation and a complete loss of trust in future agitiations. 

[psycopk]

52 minutes ago, samaja_varagamana said:

Y is it pinned

nenu saitham..

[solman]

endhi ee thread pin chesaru 

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[citizenofIND]

4 minutes ago, solman said:

endhi ee thread pin chesaru 

T movement appudu oka thread ayyina pin chesaraa asalu 

thokkesaru uncle mamalni  

[solman]

Just now, citizenofIND said:

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[lazybugger]

24 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

The issue is not about victimization. It's an emotional thing and looking at demographics after the bifurcation, very few has chosen to move back and considering the size of the population, it's negligible. Youth will feel victims when there is a lack of opportunities as it happened in the case of Telangana, but when it comes to Andhra, it doesn't hold good as the issues are completely different. The present youth are pretty much local and they have been there since birth. 

Such type of protest will result in the further division based on their choice of film orientation and a complete loss of trust in future agitiations. 

Telangana had a clear villain - AP politicians/people.

AP also has a clear villain - The central govt, but no strong leader to identify this villain and hammer it with the choicest words. 

Andhra issues have to do with fiscal governance, at the moment. That is why, this is an issue between the state govt and the central govt to sort out. 

People getting into this discussion will muddy the issue, but not in favour of the central govt. And that is good enough for me. Frankly, I don't understand the reticence AP people show in criticizing the central govt. 

you are overstating the caste differences in AP. Majority people can in fact look past all that, if the issue is dear to them.

[lazybugger]

55 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

The issue is valid...but the time is not right. It will be hijacked for political mileage. It doesnt really matter if the govt is strong ot not because of reason but, The govt is very strong in numbers. No other party has capacity to capture government or push to corner. The strongest in numbers in the last 30 years and this special status issue is just one issue, not a major issue for center. 

the right time would be end of 2018 when India and AP goes to election in April 2019. 

Do it once, Do it big..if you expect to do such thing once every quarter or whenever PK has a break from his shootings, It will loose the momentum. This protest will be remembered for reasons how not to protest. 

the result of it would go to Jagan..Creating public anger on an issue has always benefitted the opposition leaders, in this Case Jagan. PK is too early and he has to wait to cash on such things.

This is a dress rehearsal for the talking points in the 2019 election.

may be PK gets lathicharged, or arrested. Who knows.

It certainly won't as peaceful as JalliKattu protest, which you rightly described as a picnic. It wasn't a protest. 

[nani80ss]

gorrelu....evad rechagttina rechi povatame...ardam pardam leni emotions

[Android_Halwa]

16 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

Telangana had a clear villain - AP politicians/people.

AP also has a clear villain - The central govt, but no strong leader to identify this villain and hammer it with the choicest words. 

Andhra issues have to do with fiscal governance, at the moment. That is why, this is an issue between the state govt and the central govt to sort out. 

People getting into this discussion will muddy the issue, but not in favour of the central govt. And that is good enough for me. Frankly, I don't understand the reticence AP people show in criticizing the central govt. 

you are overstating the caste differences in AP. Majority people can in fact look past all that, if the issue is dear to them.

 

 

 

Well, there have been many protests..Jagan,Congress,PK, hero shivaji etc..

Unfortunately, its been almost three years but not once all the state holders did not even come together atleast once to show their strength and united cause for special status. This itself is the divisive factor. Each one is fighting but in their own capacities and at different times and different places. You know, Unity makes things worse which is tough to find in the present case.

During T-stir, Almost all the stake holders united and protested, be it haritha haram, hunger strikes, pen down, consultations with central government, JAC etc, they were all different but united for a single cause. The main reason being caste division which is only getting worser each day and you have to accept the facts. People are divided and if one group senses the other group is getting maximum mileage, they will go to any extent to make sure they gain maximum out of it...and this itself is the problem 

Can you expect Jagan,PK,Chiranjeevi,Lokesh to share a common dias for a common cause ? Its not going to happen and the reasons are well known.

Unless such a situation is created, A protest will just settle down as a picnic on a beach. 

[lazybugger]

6 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Well, there have been many protests..Jagan,Congress,PK, hero shivaji etc..

Unfortunately, its been almost three years but not once all the state holders did not even come together atleast once to show their strength and united cause for special status. This itself is the divisive factor. Each one is fighting but in their own capacities and at different times and different places. You know, Unity makes things worse which is tough to find in the present case.

During T-stir, Almost all the stake holders united and protested, be it haritha haram, hunger strikes, pen down, consultations with central government, JAC etc, they were all different but united for a single cause. The main reason being caste division which is only getting worser each day and you have to accept the facts. People are divided and if one group senses the other group is getting maximum mileage, they will go to any extent to make sure they gain maximum out of it...and this itself is the problem 

Can you expect Jagan,PK,Chiranjeevi,Lokesh to share a common dias for a common cause ? Its not going to happen and the reasons are well known.

Unless such a situation is created, A protest will just settle down as a picnic on a beach. 

okay. may be special status is not a big enough issue for AP, for all stakeholders to unite.

That's the general takeaway.

[Equalirights]

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[samaja_varagamana]

56 minutes ago, psycopk said:

nenu saitham..

sarle kani 

[Spartan]

1 hour ago, psycopk said:

nenu saitham..

this is partiality andi..

[Android_Halwa]

18 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

okay. may be special status is not a big enough issue for AP, for all stakeholders to unite.

That's the general takeaway.

 

nah..the reality is, everyone got clear instructions on Special Status from center. Nothing as such is going to happen as long as BJP is in power at least 2019. Not just AP but no other state. And this is being used as political stunt by some and other as a catalyst.