Chuck Grassley: It’s Time The H-1B Visa Program Puts Americans First

[reality]

1 minute ago, papampasivadu said:

Na mission statement simple bhayya...mnc's are overcrowding H1b system leading to lottery...

ikkada vallu edusthunna case studies kuda chudu like disney and all..vallallo evvaru ikkada ms cheyadaniki occhi maa udyogal dobeesaru ani edavatla, India nunchi occhi kottesaru antunnaru...

contracting aapeyyalani kadhu but ee implementation partner system ni multiple layers exploitation ni apithe anni vargalu samtrupthi chenduthay ani naa feeling.

Okay ....

Implementation partners ni thisesam...by putting 130k minimim wage req....multiple layers ni thisesam...by formalizing contract between actual employer and cleint, which has to be attached to h1b filing...

Now, tell me who are those companies (category of companies), and who are those candiates (category of candidates) that may potentially meet this criteria?

 

[kick_seenu]

lottery should give priority to people who already paid fees/tax to US. period.  

[kick_seenu]

10 minutes ago, papampasivadu said:

mnc's are overcrowding H1b system leading to lottery

agreed.. lottery lo numbers filling and overall billing ki bokka... 

[ARYA]

13 minutes ago, sri_india said:

edo opka country but no india antavu arya uncle 

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[mastercheif]

4 minutes ago, kick_seenu said:

lottery should give priority to people who already paid fees/tax to US. period.  

petition file chesedi company not individual  , and company is already filing tax if they are operating here in US.

 

[papampasivadu]

Just now, reality said:

Okay ....

Implementation partners ni thisesam...by putting 130k minimim wage req....multiple layers ni thisesam...by formalizing contract between actual employer and cleint, which has to be attached to h1b filing...

Now, tell me who are those companies (category of companies), and who are those candiates (category of candidates) that may potentially meet this criteria?

 

130k lite teesko bhayya...impossible assala except for nyc and sfo or places like that...adhi kanuka pass aythe andharam pack up ee except that stanford guy and desi manager level ppl...

Implementation partner system ni teesesi client managed team with contractors system pedithe all mnc's as well as desi employers will qualify...category of candidates antava, ikkada ms batch and direct h1b batch andhariki equal share of pie dorukuddhi...

 

neu 2012 lo bay area lo oka company ki chese vadni...manager and 2 fulltime emp maa team lo...rest all contractors..manager talent ni batti teskune vadu irrespective of candidate represented by mnc or small american vendor...kani 2013 lo aa team mottham wipro ki icchesaru implementation partner ani....mottham andharni clean chesesi vadi ppl ni tecchukunnadu India nunchi...that's why i feel that contracting is still fine but implementation partner system is screwing up...

also imp pratner system lo vadu easy ga 6 members chese pani ni 12 members kavalani deminstrate chesi extra 6 H1 lu eskuntunnadu to retain them...client wont care unless he's being billed...

[mastercheif]

39 minutes ago, papampasivadu said:

I propose to stop filing for tentative positions...

most companies H1 program ni oka retainer laga vadukuntunnay India lo...Banglore lo 3 yrs oka position lo pani cheste..3rd yr appraisal time ki either promotion ah leka H1b ani adugutharu...H1b esina ventane pampincharu malli...H1b esi proj kosam wait chestaru...ala wait chesi 3 yrs expire aypoyina cases kuda chusa...ikkada genuine ga H1 kavalsina vallani tokkeyadam kaadhu ah adhi?

nenu chusindhi chepthunna, back in 2008 when lottery untundhi ani rumours ragane candidate worth or not ani check cheyyakunda apply chesaru. 10K applications lo 5K anna tagalava ani, tagilina vadini train chesukundam le.

candidate over the years professionally grow avvakunte (capability leka, or avasaram leka or balupu or internal godavalu ) then US ki pamparu.

irrespective of category supply has grown a lot over the years and demand has gone down. market lo 'talent' already undhi saturation point ki deggarala unnam. so ilanti problems mamule. 

 

[Bathai_Babji]

1 hour ago, papampasivadu said:

okay bhayya...utsaha paduthunnav kabatti oka case study eskundham:

person 1: stanford lo ms chesadu...google hire cheskundi opt medha...150k ki...

person 2,3,4: TCS hyderabad branch...bay area lo project ani cheppi 70k each H1 file chesaru...

person 1 pick avvala...2,3,4 pick ayyay...

Nee opinion cheppu above scenario meedha...

Let's study this Stanford lo M.S chesadu antey vadiki one offer undavu, minimum 3 offers lenidhey bari loki digadu. oka vela vadini google hire chesi H1 file chesindhi antey Google vadi lobbying lo ochesthadhi. Okavela adhi kuda raledhu vadiki antey, vadiki unna academics tho ph.d join ayyi adhey google company lo intern ga chesthadu and google might sponsor it too. so he has options and the matter here is at person level.

coming to the second scenario 2,3,4 TCS india nunchi vesi ikkadiki pampisthundhi antey definite ga vadu important resource ayyi untadu and ikkada unna manager recommend chesthey ne kani vadi application mundhuku podhu. vadiki 70K isthunadu antey definite ga client deggara oka 100K chupisthadu and rest you know where money goes. Lets say in this case 2,3,4 ki pick avaledhu em chesthadu ? Malli Ikkada H1 ni hire chesthadu entha pay ki same pay ki entha charge chesthadu client ki same ... So, Ikkada matter enti antey this is at the company (organization) level. Which is almost a scam kind of ....

If you compare the same no.1 guy who didn't get H1 picked  vs no.5 guy who studied in a Kufli University (Mine same univ) and got H1 picked then your case is valid and what ever the rules they want to implement makes sense.  But, the case of 2,3,4 is just a scam and Desi MNC's should feel the wrath.

[kick_seenu]

13 minutes ago, mastercheif said:

petition file chesedi company not individual  , and company is already filing tax if they are operating here in US.

 

20k MS quota ichedi individuals ki not companies.. so alane candidate should be important while picking lottery

[kick_seenu]

also 10 years legal ga taxes katte vadiki automatic icheyali GC  -- eb2 eb3 gola lekunda

[kevinUsa]

1 hour ago, Quickgun_murugan said:

I completely agree

 

meru emi anna correct 

[mastercheif]

4 minutes ago, kick_seenu said:

also 10 years legal ga taxes katte vadiki automatic icheyali GC  -- eb2 eb3 gola lekunda

yeah yeah..

[TampaChinnodu]

17 minutes ago, mastercheif said:

petition file chesedi company not individual  , and company is already filing tax if they are operating here in US.

 

Lets have a new rule to have them pay taxes for active h1b candidate regardless of if candidate is in USA or not. Then I will agree with your statement.

[princeofheaven]

18 minutes ago, Bathai_Babji said:

Let's study this Stanford lo M.S chesadu antey vadiki one offer undavu, minimum 3 offers lenidhey bari loki digadu. oka vela vadini google hire chesi H1 file chesindhi antey Google vadi lobbying lo ochesthadhi. Okavela adhi kuda raledhu vadiki antey, vadiki unna academics tho ph.d join ayyi adhey google company lo intern ga chesthadu and google might sponsor it too. so he has options and the matter here is at person level.

coming to the second scenario 2,3,4 TCS india nunchi vesi ikkadiki pampisthundhi antey definite ga vadu important resource ayyi untadu and ikkada unna manager recommend chesthey ne kani vadi application mundhuku podhu. vadiki 70K isthunadu antey definite ga client deggara oka 100K chupisthadu and rest you know where money goes. Lets say in this case 2,3,4 ki pick avaledhu em chesthadu ? Malli Ikkada H1 ni hire chesthadu entha pay ki same pay ki entha charge chesthadu client ki same ... So, Ikkada matter enti antey this is at the company (organization) level. Which is almost a scam kind of ....

If you compare the same no.1 guy who didn't get H1 picked  vs no.5 guy who studied in a Kufli University (Mine same univ) and got H1 picked then your case is valid and what ever the rules they want to implement makes sense.  But, the case of 2,3,4 is just a scam and Desi MNC's should feel the wrath.

alanti odini ee canada or India aina pampistaru google comp

[reality]

9 minutes ago, papampasivadu said:

130k lite teesko bhayya...impossible assala except for nyc and sfo or places like that...adhi kanuka pass aythe andharam pack up ee except that stanford guy and desi manager level ppl...

Implementation partner system ni teesesi client managed team with contractors system pedithe all mnc's as well as desi employers will qualify...category of candidates antava, ikkada ms batch and direct h1b batch andhariki equal share of pie dorukuddhi...

 

neu 2012 lo bay area lo oka company ki chese vadni...manager and 2 fulltime emp maa team lo...rest all contractors..manager talent ni batti teskune vadu irrespective of candidate represented by mnc or small american vendor...kani 2013 lo aa team mottham wipro ki icchesaru implementation partner ani....mottham andharni clean chesesi vadi ppl ni tecchukunnadu India nunchi...that's why i feel that contracting is still fine but implementation partner system is screwing up...

also imp pratner system lo vadu easy ga 6 members chese pani ni 12 members kavalani deminstrate chesi extra 6 H1 lu eskuntunnadu to retain them...client wont care unless he's being billed...

There you go you started to sound uncertain and paradox about how one would approach your thought process.

Just nuvvu anukuntunnattu implemention partner thiseyyali ane system radhu, unless there is a supporting regulation. Edhaina regulations thone sadhyam, 130k rule or any such rule lekunda cutdown sadhyam kadhu, vallu adhe chesthe all h1s ki bokka khayam...

Lets even assume there would be such system that facilitates your wishes. Spare a thought for the end client, how hard is it for them to invest their valuabl time and money in picking up the so-called bright candidates, especially in the fast paced IT world. Do you think that will even work? Thats why th clients are leaning on to staffing companies and so on...you can't expect a client to manage a h1b worker, thats more than an overhead for them.

In your example above, though that Client might have got kathhi lanti kurrollu in the form of contractors, they might have lost bigger $ value in using client resources to manage those contractors. So, they preferred better option to go with a Vendor managed system (I am not supporting wipro, just telling you the reality)