TampaChinnodu Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 https://www.petition2congress.com/ctas/stop-eb1-c-abuse-fraudulent-filing Stop EB1 C ABUSE and FRAUDULENT filing 21,227 Messages Sent So Far Respected President & Congress members, We would like to appraise you of a particular area of United States Immigration law that has a huge potential of fraud and misrepresentation along with being unfairly biased in favor of the people who choose to abuse it. We are talking about the Employment-based first preference category EB1C (International Managers). As you are already probably aware, the requirements for eligibility in that category is just a year of overseas managerial experience in a company that conducts business in both US and abroad. We are sure you will agree that compared to the fair and stringent requirements of EB1A (persons of exceptional ability) and EB1B (outstanding researchers), this is a rather simple qualification to prove. Moreover it opens up avenues for fraud and misrepresentation particularly by overseas companies doing business in USA to unfairly take advantage of this simple requirement. The following example illustrates the fallacy: Person A (originally from India) has a US masters degree in a STEM field and works for a company in a managerial job that requires a Masters degree and a few years of experience. This person can only file in EB2 category which is badly backlogged. Person B (originally from India) has a bachelors degree in a STEM field and works for a company in a job that requires a Bachelors degree and a few years of experience. This person can only file in EB3 category which is even more severely backlogged. In contrast, Person C (originally from India) works as some manager (over a year) in an Indian software company that also conducts business in the USA. This person can file in EB1C and will get preference over Persons A & B. Please note that for Person C, educational qualifications are irrelevant as there is no such requirement and moreover they are determined by the employing company. So potentially a person with a high school diploma can qualify in that category, not to mention that the prospect of frauds opens up exponentially. Contrast this with EB1A (persons of exceptional ability) and EB1B (outstanding researchers). In terms of immigration preference, person C is considered at par with a Nobel Prize worthy scholar (EB1A) or a renowned Researcher in a STEM field (EB1B). I am sure you are able to see the fallacy easily. With the recent measures taken to curtail fraud in programs like H1B, the perpetrators have increasingly turned to this EB1C category. We would like to request you to kindly take up the matter with the appropriate authorities about this issue and restore some parity in the above categories. Ideally the EB1C category should be abolished or downgraded to a lower preference category. Request your help with this. Thanking you in anticipation, Employment Based Legal Immigrant Community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaChinnodu Posted May 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Someone from Minneapolis, MN writes: I request congress to check the past and current EB1C cases. Companies like Cognizent and others used the international manager loophole and filed offshore coordinators under EB1c. After they get EB1c they just release this resource from the project and have a new resource. Why do offshore companies need so many international managers. They just need offshore coordinators as this is project by project basis and the projects are not permanent. Also there is no proof that the person who filed as international manager is a legitimate and these companies can provide fake mamager prosition if the resource works for more then 1 years in India in that company. There a many instances where those who got EB1c has no ability to talk in English with the client and doesnt have higher degree and the pay is much less than the sr resource at the client place. Someone from Seattle, WA writes: This abuse has to be stopped. TATA Consultancy services is one of the biggest abuser of EB1. They bring people in managerial roles with fake hierarchies and file for GC in EB1. They also started doing it since L1 visas given to Indians were reduced significantly in 2013. All L1A visa holders had their GCs filed then through fraud hierarchy and a peanut salary of 75k - 85k. Flag Comment May 23rd, 2017 Someone from Waukegan, IL writes: This is a very valid issue & I support this cause. Flag Comment May 23rd, 2017 Someone from Olathe, KS writes: This has a real potential for abuse and Indian companies like TCS are using it for their own benefits. I have seen cases where the individual holding EB1C green card are basically in a people managing role which can be easily performed by an American since that doesn't involve any technical skill. Further, I like to request USCIS to investigate each and every one of approved EB1C cases for potential abuse. Most of them are obtained using fraudulent documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronitreddy Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Aha memu vinamu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 No one cares ra babu, cheputunna kadaa ee petitions ivanni waste. US is a corporate oligarchy, pretty much everyone in the govt is a corporate bitchh. Do you really think they care about you or me on humanitarian grounds? No way, they will let the abuse go on as long as the corporates are happy. Now it's a different thing if those same corporates get pissed to a point where they start putting pressure on them to change the laws. But that ain't happening anytime soon. If you can abuse or play around the system do it. If you can't, no amount of complaining or crying is going to alleviate your problem. End of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nandananditha Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: No one cares ra babu, cheputunna kadaa ee petitions ivanni waste. US is a corporate oligarchy, pretty much everyone in the govt is a corporate bitchh. Do you really think they care about you or me on humanitarian grounds? No way, they will let the abuse go on as long as the corporates are happy. Now it's a different thing if those same corporates get pissed to a point where they start putting pressure on them to change the laws. But that ain't happening anytime soon. If you can abuse or play around the system do it. If you can't, no amount of complaining or crying is going to alleviate your problem. End of the story. Roger that Subbi gadu 20 lakhs loan tesukoni kashtapadi MS chesi Pake petti job kottadu vaniki first gc evali Ani yevaru sudaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom bhayya Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, nandananditha said: Roger that Subbi gadu 20 lakhs loan tesukoni kashtapadi MS chesi Pake petti job kottadu vaniki first gc evali Ani yevaru sudaru pizza deliver chesam, gas station lo aharnisalu kastapaddam anna ivvaraa bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nandananditha Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, tom bhayya said: pizza deliver chesam, gas station lo aharnisalu kastapaddam anna ivvaraa bro? @kiladi bullodu Anna septhadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, tom bhayya said: pizza deliver chesam, gas station lo aharnisalu kastapaddam anna ivvaraa bro? Babu ippudu paristithi ila undi kaani naaku telisina okathanu full time gas station job chesadu, employer ki paisal ichi payroll run cheyinchi GC kottadu ippudu citizen kooda ayyadu. So oka 7-8 years mundara ochinollu andaru patithulu annattu cuttinglu ivvaku. Appatlo intha scrutiny ledu that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom bhayya Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: Babu ippudu paristithi ila undi kaani naaku telisina okathanu full time gas station job chesadu, employer ki paisal ichi payroll run cheyinchi GC kottadu ippudu citizen kooda ayyadu. So oka 7-8 years mundara ochinollu andaru patithulu annattu cuttinglu ivvaku. Appatlo intha scrutiny ledu that's it. 7-8 yrs back EB1 abuse kuda undedhi kaadhu bro ippudu endhuku ekkuva ayyindhi antaavu? backlog ekkuva ayyindhi vallaki margam kanipinchindhi anthey vaadukunnodiki vaadukunnantha.. ey visa meedha vachina ultimate ga andharu pacha card kosamey kadha chusedhi no one is patheeth here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Just now, tom bhayya said: 7-8 yrs back EB1 abuse kuda undedhi kaadhu bro ippudu endhuku ekkuva ayyindhi antaavu? backlog ekkuva ayyindhi vallaki margam kanipinchindhi anthey vaadukunnodiki vaadukunnantha.. ey visa meedha vachina ultimate ga andharu pacha card kosamey kadha chusedhi no one is patheeth here.. Yes I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaChinnodu Posted May 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 4 hours ago, tennisluvr said: No one cares ra babu, cheputunna kadaa ee petitions ivanni waste. US is a corporate oligarchy, pretty much everyone in the govt is a corporate bitchh. Do you really think they care about you or me on humanitarian grounds? No way, they will let the abuse go on as long as the corporates are happy. Now it's a different thing if those same corporates get pissed to a point where they start putting pressure on them to change the laws. But that ain't happening anytime soon. If you can abuse or play around the system do it. If you can't, no amount of complaining or crying is going to alleviate your problem. End of the story. Edo small hope man. Koncham news spread ite aapestharu emo ani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiraak_poradu Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, TampaChinnodu said: Edo small hope man. Koncham news spread ite aapestharu emo ani. no use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaChinnodu Posted May 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 9 hours ago, kiraak_poradu said: no use Try sesthe poyedi emi ledu dude. Even if it is decreases filing by a little bit , other categories will benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaChinnodu Posted May 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Someone from Syracuse, NY writes: I can't believe a 30 fold rise in applications just within the last 3-4 years. If this is not abuse of the system, don't know what else is. This needs to stop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaChinnodu Posted May 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 Someone from Rockville, MD writes: Dear Sir, It seems EB1C category is being misused by Indian software companies. 2014 there was 1000 EB1 ( EB1A, EB1B, EB1C) applications filed in total. In 2017, it is >29000 total applications. it is 30 fold increase in 2 years. This is severely impacting the EB2 category, who have been working here for more than 10 years. Appreciate your help. Flag Comment May 9th, 2017 Someone from New York, NY writes: Tcs l1a applications from Chennai displace American workers at a large scale. Please check to see why the l1 executives are needed when so many managers in it industry are job less. The reason is Chennai l1a folks get paid 60,000$ while the American it managers get paid 95,000$. Check this with any body working at Tcs you will get the truth. Flag Comment May 9th, 2017 Someone from New York, NY writes: Tcs abuses l1a applications, especially l1a applications from Chennai, check with any law firms they use this is an outright false for people traveling from Chennai on l1a applications. Flag Comment May 9th, 2017 Someone from Plano, TX signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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