Facts about H1B to MS students and aspirants

[Quickgun_murugan]

• There are average 40–65% Indian students in almost all US universities (except top ones).
• Almost all are pursuing Computer science OR MIS.
• No company gives salary of 100k + to fresh MS grad except the silicon valley ones and companies in big cities like Seattle, Boston, NYC, Miami, etc. But again, silicon valley and big cities are so expensive that you might even have to pay to park your own vehicle in your own office. 100k in Silicon Valley is like 60k in a middle tier city.
• Compensation system in USA for H1B workers and PERM process is based on government guidelines and a prevailing wage system. For every state and every city, there is a decided minimum compensation for software engineers. In Florida, if the minimum compensation for a skill is $60k, the same will be $100 in California as California is very expensive and you can live the same life in 60k in Florida as 100k in California.
• Getting job in Amazon, Google, Cisco, Microsoft, etcs is not easy (even though Google, Microsoft, and Adobe have Indian CEOs). You will have to compete with thousands of application for each job. You will need all sort of connection and application skills. Even if you get lucky to grab a call, at the interview location you will find hundreds other sitting for their turn. On an average, 1 out of 15–20 gets a good job and that too from a very good university.
• There are better companies than amazon, Microsoft, Cisco, etc. in the US but hardly anyone of them sponsor work visa for fresh grads.
• Getting H1B is becoming tougher day-by-day. With more than 215k application for 85k visa, 1 in 4 gets it. And that too when your employer is ready to file as the cost has been increased.
• Paying a loan becomes tough if you fail to secure a good job. I know people working on contracts and for peanuts after their MS just to get some money and pay back loans. Some of them even work 10–15 hours a day.
• Americans are not dumb. They are are the smartest and most hard working people. They are the inventors and researchers. They can do computer jobs as good or better as we do. 10 years ago, there were fewer Americans with Computer Science skills. Hence, we got the jobs easily. But now, as a senior employee of Fortune 50 company, I would say that the American crowd is more interested in computer studies and we are getting US citizen talent easily for every job.
• It doesn’t matter in the US whether you are from NIT or IIT or IIIT. They don’t care and some of them don’t even know these colleges. You will be in queue with the guys from Osmania university and UP tech for each job and will be considered in the same manner.
• Graduate assistant job or scholarship is not for everyone. Typically, in a university, are 10% GA jobs on campus out of all Masters students. Remaining 90% have to struggle OR work outside to get some money. And yes, not all can get those jobs as well.
• There is nothing like ‘On-campus’ placements in USA. Companies will come to your university, but will just grab a copy of your resume and tell you that they will send a response after review. Most of these companies target USA citizens. There will be hundred others standing in queue for each job and everybody will be considered at same level by the company.
• 90k Indian students came to USA last year for MS (source: internet). but Amazon+Google+Microsoft+Intel (mass foreigner recruiters) jointly hired 3k (and that too includes students from all over the world coming to the US) again, source is the visa database. All other companies hire less numbers that the above four. Now you can do your own calculations. And yes, if you think you are among top 4k Indians, no job issues for you.
• It is not easy to secure a good job… People apply for 1500+ companies and get 1 call… Even with prior experience.
• Certifications can help in job, but can’t guarantee one. It is better to have some on your resume.
• 1 in 4 gets H1B and then 1 in 4 gets a green card that means 1 in 16 gets a GC on an average. This is because not all employers file GC for all H1B holders. Forget about citizenship as there is a minimum wait of 8 to 15 years to get actual GC for Indians.
• USA MS degree cannot guarantee a good job in India as well. If the MS degree is not from a top notch, well known university (and by well known I mean Harvard, MIT, Yale etc), you will be treated as equivalent to MTech/MSc graduates from India and will get similar jobs. Even if your university is better than IIT or NIT, you will not be treated in that manner in India.

 

source: Quora

[Quickgun_murugan]

Oka candidate answer 

 

On H-1B visa right now. A visa had I knew 5 years back would have created so many problems, I would have never chosen:

• Welcome to the modern day slavery of tech sector employees
• Only allows me to work with some H-1B dependent employers. In fact for the recent few years, I have been seen as the biggest villain of citizens who lost their jobs due to the greed of a few higher folks working in my company
• Limits my career growth. I can only apply for certain roles in only certain companies
• Full time employees that work with me(most of the time US citizens), are like my owners who can do and say whatever they want to me; and since I am on visa, I would have to always massage their Egos
• When I applied for H-1B, I was under the impression that after a lot of hardships and dedication to my work, I could have been awarded a permanent residency. I was a fool. I would have to wait for 15 years before I can stay in this country with less insecurities
• Even though I earn decent amount for myself and my family, I can't buy a home. Let's put it in a better way. I could buy because the law allows me as a non-immigrant to buy property, but just because of the uncertainty over my visa during stamping, can't stay for more than 6 years etc; I would not buy it
• Mr. Trump has ensured that due to his recent immigration crackdown, I and my insecure employer would never want to take a risk of doing an H-1B amendment for any kind of change in my work location, project etc. Because if we do then we don't know when will we get our new I-797 document

In short, I am the most screwed person you will find in US today. Thanks to this path-breaking visa I am currently on.  

[Novak_Djokovic]

Current trend changed in all aspects....

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Everybodies case is unique...cant genralize....

[desiboys]

Already rates daggara chala dhandha nadusthundi. California lo Java developer ki $50/hr kante ekkuva ivvatledu

[kiraak_poradu]

Matter in one line 

 

[vikuba]

There are average 40–65% Indian students in almost all US universities

not true bro

[Mustachio]

9 minutes ago, kiraak_poradu said:

Matter in one line 

 

crocodile festival is here !!

[princeofheaven]

19 minutes ago, Quickgun_murugan said:

• There are average 40–65% Indian students in almost all US universities (except top ones).
• Almost all are pursuing Computer science OR MIS.
• No company gives salary of 100k + to fresh MS grad except the silicon valley ones and companies in big cities like Seattle, Boston, NYC, Miami, etc. But again, silicon valley and big cities are so expensive that you might even have to pay to park your own vehicle in your own office. 100k in Silicon Valley is like 60k in a middle tier city.
• Compensation system in USA for H1B workers and PERM process is based on government guidelines and a prevailing wage system. For every state and every city, there is a decided minimum compensation for software engineers. In Florida, if the minimum compensation for a skill is $60k, the same will be $100 in California as California is very expensive and you can live the same life in 60k in Florida as 100k in California.
• Getting job in Amazon, Google, Cisco, Microsoft, etcs is not easy (even though Google, Microsoft, and Adobe have Indian CEOs). You will have to compete with thousands of application for each job. You will need all sort of connection and application skills. Even if you get lucky to grab a call, at the interview location you will find hundreds other sitting for their turn. On an average, 1 out of 15–20 gets a good job and that too from a very good university.
• There are better companies than amazon, Microsoft, Cisco, etc. in the US but hardly anyone of them sponsor work visa for fresh grads.
• Getting H1B is becoming tougher day-by-day. With more than 215k application for 85k visa, 1 in 4 gets it. And that too when your employer is ready to file as the cost has been increased.
• Paying a loan becomes tough if you fail to secure a good job. I know people working on contracts and for peanuts after their MS just to get some money and pay back loans. Some of them even work 10–15 hours a day.
• Americans are not dumb. They are are the smartest and most hard working people. They are the inventors and researchers. They can do computer jobs as good or better as we do. 10 years ago, there were fewer Americans with Computer Science skills. Hence, we got the jobs easily. But now, as a senior employee of Fortune 50 company, I would say that the American crowd is more interested in computer studies and we are getting US citizen talent easily for every job.
• It doesn’t matter in the US whether you are from NIT or IIT or IIIT. They don’t care and some of them don’t even know these colleges. You will be in queue with the guys from Osmania university and UP tech for each job and will be considered in the same manner.
• Graduate assistant job or scholarship is not for everyone. Typically, in a university, are 10% GA jobs on campus out of all Masters students. Remaining 90% have to struggle OR work outside to get some money. And yes, not all can get those jobs as well.
• There is nothing like ‘On-campus’ placements in USA. Companies will come to your university, but will just grab a copy of your resume and tell you that they will send a response after review. Most of these companies target USA citizens. There will be hundred others standing in queue for each job and everybody will be considered at same level by the company.
• 90k Indian students came to USA last year for MS (source: internet). but Amazon+Google+Microsoft+Intel (mass foreigner recruiters) jointly hired 3k (and that too includes students from all over the world coming to the US) again, source is the visa database. All other companies hire less numbers that the above four. Now you can do your own calculations. And yes, if you think you are among top 4k Indians, no job issues for you.
• It is not easy to secure a good job… People apply for 1500+ companies and get 1 call… Even with prior experience.
• Certifications can help in job, but can’t guarantee one. It is better to have some on your resume.
• 1 in 4 gets H1B and then 1 in 4 gets a green card that means 1 in 16 gets a GC on an average. This is because not all employers file GC for all H1B holders. Forget about citizenship as there is a minimum wait of 8 to 15 years to get actual GC for Indians.
• USA MS degree cannot guarantee a good job in India as well. If the MS degree is not from a top notch, well known university (and by well known I mean Harvard, MIT, Yale etc), you will be treated as equivalent to MTech/MSc graduates from India and will get similar jobs. Even if your university is better than IIT or NIT, you will not be treated in that manner in India.

 

source: Quora

mesthrilu undaga enduku chinta, saaho appi anna

[Batman_fan]

All BS and generalizations. I don't agree

[ronitreddy]

GP

[Batman_fan]

21 minutes ago, Quickgun_murugan said:

• There are average 40–65% Indian students in almost all US universities (except top ones).

Just get admission to those top Univs then. No need to worry about rest of things

[boeing747]

46 minutes ago, Mustachio said:

crocodile festival is here !!

idi varaku festival is ahead anevaru, ipudu "is here" ane status ki vachindi

[nrikittu]

[Batman_fan]

[Quickgun_murugan]

58 minutes ago, Batman_fan said:

Just get admission to those top Univs then. No need to worry about rest of things

You have a point..