FITNESS , DIET Discussions

[Don_Draper]

1 hour ago, sameer1384 said:

My Experience 13:-

If you weigh more than 160 . Dont waste your time  doing ab exercise. Its waste of time to see your abs with out loosing your body fat or getting lean.

Abs will show up only when your body fat is less than 13%  or atleast you need to weigh less than 140 lb. Otherwise you still see your tummy no matter what how long you do your abs exercise. 

 

13% is kinda true.. again 140lbs is for you not for others.. just clarifying so ppl don't misunderstand. You can't be ripped with 6 pack all around the year.. even if you are then your strength won't increase linearly.. 

[Don_Draper]

On 9/6/2017 at 4:01 PM, sameer1384 said:

My Experience 3:-

1. If you diet you will loose muscle. 

End Result:- you look so week at the end of the diet plan. Poor body shape looks lean help . you cannot loose much bellyfat .even if  you loose its a temperory

2. If you do cardio you will loose muscle and body fat 

End Result:  you look healthy but you will end up with some body pains ,knee pains and feel lazy .Average body shape looks ok. you loose bellyfat much which stays for long time. 

3. If  you diet + Cardio  (2 times a week targeting burning 700 calories)+ some weight training (3 times a week atleast for an hour) . you loose only body fat but not the muscle 
End Result:- your body shape is better

 

#3 is again wrong..  You lose muscle too if you don't take enough protein 1g/lb body weight. There is no some weight training. You need to do proper weight training.  #1 is wrong too.. If you eat well with enough protein and still be in deficit you won't loose much muscle.. Indeed fat that too conditionally. #2 i totally  agree

[Don_Draper]

This is good thread, but information is one man's perception and not based on research. 

Please, take a nutrition course in khan academy or coursera or udemy.

[sameer1384]

11 minutes ago, Don_Draper said:

Running shoes are worst investment. If someone is suggesting cardio for weight loss/ fat loss god bless the one following it. Do strength training indeed. Yes you need cardio but just once a week on break day that too with 6 days of strength training. Beginners can gain lot of muscle in year 1 so don't waste your time running around trees. You will land in same spot as your were. Indeed go for weightlifting. This advice is only for people who are not into marthon stuff.

Get training shoes indeed. I know power lifters who workout with chuck taylors.  Expand your horizon. and moreover $30 running shoes are shiat crap. Better luck with your knee, ankle pains. Now don't give me example of milind soman.

And your research on creatine is so poor.  It won't increase energy by 150% . Time for Reality Check.  black Coffee indeed increase energy and focus and that too by not an exaggerated 150% percent.  No wrong advices please. Research about creatine. You might be very well harming if you extra dose creatine in search of 150% energy.

I know TS is learning.. but straighten out your research about supplements at Examine.com.

Usually Exercise and training varies from person to person and perception to perception . I am sharing my views based on my experience and the experiement I did it on my body by closely  watching my diet ,exercise and my day to day activities. Lemme share in detail what I mean . I am typically 185 lb guy with small family pack with 36 waist  . Since from 3 months I started taking care of my body shape and got much better in shape by loosing 30% body fat to 18% and lost 35 lb having good shape. I am sharing my experiences keeping in mind of typically software guys who are not active through out the day and having out of shape.

Running shoes:- According to research , we need to change our running shoes for every 300 miles we travel with our shoes. I have both running shoes and Strength training shoes with me . I was not able to run more than 5 miles with my strength training because of discomfort and heavy resulting my knee and ankle pains during night time where as with running shoes I can able to go more than 8 miles with out any issues because of light weight . With running shoes also I have knee and ankle pains but they go away when I take a day break immediately but with the strength training shoes, it wont go atleast for 3 days . 

creatine :- This has different reviews and always controdictory from person to person . Based on my experience if I take creatine 30 mins-45 mins of before my work out , I was able to run atleast 10 miles atleast 7 miles with out getting tired and stretching for another 3 miles with low intensity . This could not be possible with out creatine for me . .At the end of the day I was happy burning 1200 calories with running .If I able to run continously like for three days I see good results in my body weight and shape  . I am happy about the result. Earlier I was not able to run more than 4 miles and continously for more than 4 days. Apart from cardio , with out creatine I cannot able to work out for more than 1 hour to 1.5 hour but with creatine there are days I was able to work for 2.5 hours with out getting tired  I was leaving the gym by looking at the time but not the with the energy levels.

As you said beginners see good results in the first year.  one year continous ga chese time , theereka unte ee suplements enduku ,gantalu gantalu cheyalsina avasaram ledu. Most of our people just take small goals for few weeks or months to maintain good shape to take out our family pack

Lite theesko boss . What ever I am writing my experiences which worked for me not necessary it has to work for every one. 

[sameer1384]

24 minutes ago, Don_Draper said:

Your experience is based only up on your understanding. So understand better. You are not considering height or body type of person. There are many people with 160lbs and ripped.  And btw abs are muscles too. They get trained as muscles, grow as muscle. Yes abs help you loose weight bro. If you gain muscle, you burn more fat in the process you loose weight which is fat indeed.  There is nothing like Some leg exercise. Everyone needs to focus on leg exercises..look at mirror at your legs, they are the biggest muscle groups, quads, hammies, lil calves, glutes.. Now common chest is way smaller than legs.. basic anatomy. So Train your legs harder. SQUAT and DEADLIFT Bro.

True , I agree there are many people having 160 lbs and ripped. EXample Aronld with 240 lb. I agree that but that will come out in the long run for atleast more than one year training.  But for the normal typical desi carrying family pack is not easy to get ripped off immediately. Now I am close 152 lb almost same as Allu Arjun weight . but still have my small family pack.  I mentioned in order to see your abs you need to loose body fat first  not the weight.

If you loose body fat less than 13% you are very close to the popping our your abs and then you can build muscle or pack on it .

Lite theesko boss . What ever I am writing my experiences which worked for me not necessary it has to work for every one. 

[sameer1384]

26 minutes ago, Don_Draper said:

13% is kinda true.. again 140lbs is for you not for others.. just clarifying so ppl don't misunderstand. You can't be ripped with 6 pack all around the year.. even if you are then your strength won't increase linearly.. 

I agree. 

 

[sameer1384]

25 minutes ago, Don_Draper said:

#3 is again wrong..  You lose muscle too if you don't take enough protein 1g/lb body weight. There is no some weight training. You need to do proper weight training.  #1 is wrong too.. If you eat well with enough protein and still be in deficit you won't loose much muscle.. Indeed fat that too conditionally. #2 i totally  agree

I mean at least you don't look weak . but if you have cardio + diet + training (what ever I mentioned) you will deftly build up lean muscle

[sameer1384]

33 minutes ago, Don_Draper said:

This is good thread, but information is one man's perception and not based on research. 

Please, take a nutrition course in khan academy or coursera or udemy.

I totally agree. Taking a training or listening to the course is totally different . There are so many different channels in the youtube as well .Don't expect to see the results with ina month, you need to have lots of patience and  see the results step by step . you are highly encouraged to follow for better health. 

Summary of any course:- 

1. Diet:- Have clean and control diet . Eat lots of veggies .less carbs. take good amount of protein

2. train 5 days  a week . 1-2  days for cardio , 3 -4 days for strength training  . Time limit 45- 60 mins.

3. Listen to your body .  Give body some rest to recover.

4. 1lb -2 lb is healthy weight loss. 

5. HIIT is another concept which works great for any one .

 

[sameer1384]

30 minutes ago, Don_Draper said:

This is good thread, but information is one man's perception and not based on research. 

Please, take a nutrition course in khan academy or coursera or udemy.

This is truly based on one person dedicated research which worked for me by doing different kinds of experiments on his body with different aspects by closely watching diet, training etc. 

[Don_Draper]

3 hours ago, sameer1384 said:

Usually Exercise and training varies from person to person and perception to perception . I am sharing my views based on my experience and the experiement I did it on my body by closely  watching my diet ,exercise and my day to day activities. Lemme share in detail what I mean . I am typically 185 lb guy with small family pack with 36 waist  . Since from 3 months I started taking care of my body shape and got much better in shape by loosing 30% body fat to 18% and lost 35 lb having good shape. I am sharing my experiences keeping in mind of typically software guys who are not active through out the day and having out of shape.

Running shoes:- According to research , we need to change our running shoes for every 300 miles we travel with our shoes. I have both running shoes and Strength training shoes with me . I was not able to run more than 5 miles with my strength training because of discomfort and heavy resulting my knee and ankle pains during night time where as with running shoes I can able to go more than 8 miles with out any issues because of light weight . With running shoes also I have knee and ankle pains but they go away when I take a day break immediately but with the strength training shoes, it wont go atleast for 3 days . 

creatine :- This has different reviews and always controdictory from person to person . Based on my experience if I take creatine 30 mins-45 mins of before my work out , I was able to run atleast 10 miles atleast 7 miles with out getting tired and stretching for another 3 miles with low intensity . This could not be possible with out creatine for me . .At the end of the day I was happy burning 1200 calories with running .If I able to run continously like for three days I see good results in my body weight and shape  . I am happy about the result. Earlier I was not able to run more than 4 miles and continously for more than 4 days. Apart from cardio , with out creatine I cannot able to work out for more than 1 hour to 1.5 hour but with creatine there are days I was able to work for 2.5 hours with out getting tired  I was leaving the gym by looking at the time but not the with the energy levels.

As you said beginners see good results in the first year.  one year continous ga chese time , theereka unte ee suplements enduku ,gantalu gantalu cheyalsina avasaram ledu. Most of our people just take small goals for few weeks or months to maintain good shape to take out our family pack

Lite theesko boss . What ever I am writing my experiences which worked for me not necessary it has to work for every one. 

Yeah okay Lite aithey.. remember me the day when you realize what i said was true. Since you are so dedicated i just busted few myths. i don't aim to challenge you or troll in any way.  Its an opportunity to enhance your knowledge about nutrition, supplements and gaining muscle (fat loss is just by product)  and get your journey in to the right track. You can get better body than allu arjun who cares.. All i know from your experiences and myths is, You are just screwing it up with unnecessary cardio. May be my words got your ego on Jack3d, but that's okay with me as i cannot sugar coat myths. I'm pretty sure you will realize it one day, so i will take the high road. Again, take it as a opportunity to turn things around, gaining muscle is not easy but loosing is pretty easy. 

[Don_Draper]

3 hours ago, sameer1384 said:

I totally agree. Taking a training or listening to the course is totally different . There are so many different channels in the youtube as well .Don't expect to see the results with ina month, you need to have lots of patience and  see the results step by step . you are highly encouraged to follow for better health. 

Summary of any course:- 

1. Diet:- Have clean and control diet . Eat lots of veggies .less carbs. take good amount of protein

2. train 5 days  a week . 1-2  days for cardio , 3 -4 days for strength training  . Time limit 45- 60 mins.

3. Listen to your body .  Give body some rest to recover.

4. 1lb -2 lb is healthy weight loss. 

5. HIIT is another concept which works great for any one .

 

I'm so  for you. Without even knowing what are fats, carbs and protein, you have come to early conclusion about courses. Remember learning never stops, if it was so easy in 5 points everyone would have done that. Still i would suggest you take the course and learn it, if you really want to know how your body works and how carbs, fat and protein change the equation of the body. Do you even know the metabolic pathways of carbs/protein/fats or how are they metabolized in our bodies? Do you know about metabolic adaption and why it occurs?  diet induced thermogenesis? Eating less carbs is not a solution, that's a grave mistake. You have to understand the insulin sensitivity /resistance. How it works and impacts our blood sugar, what is it, why is it in a such a way?  You will discover a different world from your understanding of these concepts, so try not to be confined to a single school of thought.. If you just take the above 5 points, then you are merely limiting your potential on fitness grounds. The moment we think we know everything and we figured out everything, that's the moment we fail. I'm still learning and i have been posting new findings and current research too in this forum. May be you never saw it. 

[Don_Draper]

btw  lite ankunnam kada marchipoya.. sarey hail cardio  !!  idi matram sarcasm. 

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