chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, tennisluvr said: The answer to your question is, the program is designed in a way that unless you are a naturalized soldier aka a US citizen you can't be assigned to a lot of MOS(Memorandum of Service aka your job in the Army) that the Army needs these people for. So if the Army takes you in through this program and doesn't naturalize you, they can't assign you to a lot of tasks that they need done by you if you are on a visa or even a GC for that matter. Security clearance won't be granted unless you are a naturalized US Citizen so they have to absolutely naturalize you before they can assign you to those rules. So it's not a question of whether you want to be on a visa once you join and are in, if you don't want to get naturalized they can't assign you to job duties and have to feed you for free which they of course won't do. So they will give you an entry level discharge aka they will boot you out. sure, then let me rephrase my Q. oka vela itla process antha lekunda anyone can join army and serve without being a citizen and you will get all the benefits they get except for this naturalisation ante would you have joined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, tennisluvr said: History em ledu. He seems to have an extreme level of hatred on par with terrorist supporters on the Army of the country he's currently living and feeding on the resources of. I just put him in his place, he's of course a keyboard warrior that won't even pass the physical to be eligible to be a second shift security guard so I can see why he keeps cribbing and crying on those that can do better than him. It's tough for anyone who has some respect towards the law of the land to stoop down to his gutter level. ok, I dont know about him.. athani posts kooda epudu pedhaga gamaninchale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, chittimallu2 said: Im not stupid... I know what they would answer and they are not in context here. Why would anyone work for free without benefits? I asked you this Q because you said that people like you deserve respect because you joined the army so I was trying to see if you really joined to serve or for an extra benefit which in this case is GC option. Never said I deserve respect personally, that's upto you. I do however believe that soldiers of any nation deserve respect and I won't go around mocking them like that idiot @siru if they are leeching off that land and using it's resources. Whether you want to respect them or not is purely upto you, but it shows an obvious hypocrisy when you claim to respect the soldiers of one nation(India) while disrespecting those of another nation(USA) like that bedwetter @siru does. Of course, with the kind of upbringing he had it's obvious to see why he behaves and has his panties in a twist when he tries to troll about this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, chittimallu2 said: sure, then let me rephrase my Q. oka vela itla process antha lekunda anyone can join army and serve without being a citizen and you will get all the benefits they get except for this naturalisation ante would you have joined? Except that it's never the case that anyone can join, there's a vetting process and a background check process that's done prior to admitting you into the Army. Plus since the program wasn't designed to take in and keep people as soldiers on a visa, your question is purely hypothetical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, tennisluvr said: Never said I deserve respect personally, that's upto you. I do however believe that soldiers of any nation deserve respect and I won't go around mocking them like that idiot @siru if they are leeching off that land and using it's resources. Whether you want to respect them or not is purely upto you, but it shows an obvious hypocrisy when you claim to respect the soldiers of one nation(India) while disrespecting those of another nation(USA) like that bedwetter @siru does. Of course, with the kind of upbringing he had it's obvious to see why he behaves and has his panties in a twist when he tries to troll about this topic. ok then I must have understood the context wrong and i agree with you that in general a soldier deserves respect... neninka nee laaga ee program lo join ainavallaki respect ivvali because you are fighting for a country ani annav anukunna... so anduke adiga GC lekapothe join ayye vadiva ani... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickgun_murugan Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, chittimallu2 said: dont get me wrong, I have no issues with people joining or not... just because you joined an army doesnt mean we should respect you. There is a reason you folks joined that, im assuming your primary factor is to get a GC rather than serving. andhuke aa Q adigina, if they dont give the GC option would you guys have joined still? oka vela mee answer ganaka yes ante then yes I respect you for trying to serve, but kadu GC option undi kabatte join ayyamu ante why should we respect you specially? you saw an opportunity and went for it, good for you I am not asking you to respect me bro.. I am asking not to disrespect soldiers..(whatever the reason they joined for). alaa ante WW1 and WW2 time lo they lured prisoners and convicted ppl to join the military.to set them free.n they forced some ppl too...... now we show lot of respect to them as WW1/2 veterans. this is a voluntary service.. no body is forcing .... whatever their reason to join.. they pledged to give their life and spent some part of their life doing something for the country which 97% of people dont dare to do. atleast dont disrespect that... everyone have their own reasons bro... manollaloney GC kosam desperate vallu entha mandi unnaru.. y didnt they join??? cuz it takes guts n sacrifice @chittimallu2 @tennisluvr @kiraak_poradu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, tennisluvr said: Except that it's never the case that anyone can join, there's a vetting process and a background check process that's done prior to admitting you into the Army. Plus since the program wasn't designed to take in and keep people as soldiers on a visa, your question is purely hypothetical. ofcourse y Q is hypothetical from the beginning, I know you cant serve an army without being a citizen... andhuke adiga without that option would you have joined ani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, chittimallu2 said: Im not stupid... I know what they would answer and they are not in context here. Why would anyone work for free without benefits? I asked you this Q because you said that people like you deserve respect because you joined the army so I was trying to see if you really joined to serve or for an extra benefit which in this case is GC option. I just understood that you didn't understand anything about what I posted, or didn't bother to read my previous posts. Where does the question of GC arise here? Even GC holders have to be naturalized if they were to join through this program, they can't choose to stay on a GC. It's not an option they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Quickgun_murugan said: I am not asking you to respect me bro.. I am asking not to disrespect soldiers..(whatever the reason they joined for). alaa ante WW1 and WW2 time lo they lured prisoners and convicted ppl to join the military.to set them free.... now we show lot of respect to them as WW1/2 veterans. whatever their reason to join.. they pledged to give their life and spent some part of their life doing something for the country which 97% of people dont dare to do. atleast dont disrespect that... everyone have their own reasons bro... manollaloney GC kosam desperate vallu entha mandi unnaru.. y didnt they join??? cuz it takes guts n sacrifice @chittimallu2 @tennisluvr yeah I agree... naku kooda vaallante respect ee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, tennisluvr said: I just understood that you didn't understand anything about what I posted, or didn't bother to read my previous posts. Where does the question of GC arise here? Even GC holders have to be naturalized if they were to join through this program, they can't choose to stay on a GC. It's not an option they have. GC ante naa uddhesam an option to become citizen or in other words getting naturalised... dont cling to trivial things, i know you got my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, chittimallu2 said: ofcourse y Q is hypothetical from the beginning, I know you cant serve an army without being a citizen... andhuke adiga without that option would you have joined ani Provide me that option and I will let you know if I would have joined then. For me purely, it depends on whether the MOS I would get assigned to would be okay with me being on a visa without getting naturalized. I joined in as 15R which is a helicopter repair specialist which requires me to have security clearance which can't be granted to someone who's on a visa, so perhaps not. However if they were to magically remove this requirement without considering the defense needs of the nation tomorrow, I would still join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, tennisluvr said: Provide me that option and I will let you know if I would have joined then. For me purely, it depends on whether the MOS I would get assigned to would be okay with me being on a visa without getting naturalized. I joined in as 15R which is a helicopter repair specialist which requires me to have security clearance which can't be granted to someone who's on a visa, so perhaps not. However if they were to magically remove this requirement without considering the defense needs of the nation tomorrow, I would still join. thats the answer, simple yes or no anthe and you answered yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickgun_murugan Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, chittimallu2 said: yeah I agree... naku kooda vaallante respect ee Good Post... Soldier is Soldier... bro... what was their background.. what was their reason to join doesnt matter.... what they have to go through and what it takes to be a soldier is what matters.... to understand this one has to go through that phase... otherwise its very hard to make them understand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisluvr Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Quickgun_murugan said: I am not asking you to respect me bro.. I am asking not to disrespect soldiers..(whatever the reason they joined for). alaa ante WW1 and WW2 time lo they lured prisoners and convicted ppl to join the military.to set them free.... now we show lot of respect to them as WW1/2 veterans. whatever their reason to join.. they pledged to give their life and spent some part of their life doing something for the country which 97% of people dont dare to do. atleast dont disrespect that... everyone have their own reasons bro... manollaloney GC kosam desperate vallu entha mandi unnaru.. y didnt they join??? cuz it takes guts n sacrifice @chittimallu2 @tennisluvr Arey antha cheptaventi bro ee @siru gadiki siggu sharam undi oka amma ayya ki putti untey ide vagudu ochi US Army soldiers mundu anamanu. I am ready to go in person and take his ass into a reporting station, does he have the balls to disrespect and abuse them in person ask him to say that. I am sure that panty pisser is going to wet his panties even if I were to take him there, antha enduku be prepared for that ass licker to come and mouth off more insults here the way he did earlier. I am waiting, oka ammaki ayyaki puttinodiki ayithey ra ra @siru I am not insulting you nuvvu ekkadaku rammanna ostha, ide vidhamga nee notiki ochinattu vaagu teesukelatha Army base ki. If not, elanti pempakam perigavo clear ga andariki artham avutundi ikkada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chittimallu2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Quickgun_murugan said: Good Post... Soldier is Soldier... bro... what was their background.. what was their reason to join doesnt matter.... what they have to go through and what it takes to be a soldier is what matters.... to understand this one has to go through that phase... otherwise its very hard to make them understand... ledhu nenu topic veredi anukunna... andhuke aa Q adiga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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