Great article on Virat Kohli

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Tendulkar's influence on Indian psyche is unmatched, man. Its a product of so many things. including successful marketing.

Even Dhoni with his extraordinary success as captain can't match him.

ofcourse I may be underestimating Kohli's popularity among the teens of today, but I'm simply talking of milllenials. pretty sure more millenials will pick Sachin over Kohli. Some may pick Kohli grudgingly.

to try to prove that their choice is wrong is pointless.

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Let Kohli be celebrated by teens of today or early 20s. why should we care?

[Demigod]

2 minutes ago, uttermost said:

bhayya. game has progressed bhayya. whatever magic current batsmen can conjure up, doesn't diminish their predecessors.

 

thats what my point is game evolves and standards increase...

[Batman_fan]

Lets compare the stats. This is Kohli's average away and home. Difference is around 18.  All great players have this number less than 5. He needs to score a century in every test match outside India to improve this. Can he do that?

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2011-2017	63	106	8	5268	243	53.75	9057	58.16	20	15	6	583	17	Profile
filtered	2011-2017	31	54	2	2347	200	45.13	4144	56.63	10	5	4	261	7

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2011-2017	63	106	8	5268	243	53.75	9057	58.16	20	15	6	583	17	Profile
filtered	2011-2017	32	52	6	2921	243	63.50	4913	59.45	10	10	2	322	10

This is Sachin's. 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	1989-2013	200	329	33	15921	248*	53.78	29437+	54.04*	51	68	14	2058+	69	Profile
filtered	1989-2012	106	176	17	8705	248*	54.74	15885	54.80	29	36	10	1115	33

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5 minutes ago, Demigod said:

na point kuda ade VK even though not naturally gifted say like rohit vadi pattudala tho he became the person he is today and set the bar high..sachin also lost all the world cups untill we won one in 2011.. ala ante yuvi 3 world cups win ayyadu shall we say he is better than sachin n VK.. nenu Sachin technique or commitment ni judge cheyatle.. Sachin legend..but VK agility athleticism the way he reads the game pacing an innings avi anni next level... 

VK is a product of his times. anthaku minchi emi ledhu.

to use VK to deride Sachin fans is bullshit. 

what's this 'reading the game'? its not survey map, lol. Its a simple game where you should hit more runs than your opponent. bowlers and captain can have strategies with field settings, but there's nothing much for a batsman to 'read' into the game, as far as I know.

[Demigod]

1 minute ago, Batman_fan said:

Lets compare the stats. This is Kohli's average away and home. Difference is around 18.  All great players have this number less than 5. He needs to score a century in every match outside India to improve this. Can he do that?

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2011-2017	63	106	8	5268	243	53.75	9057	58.16	20	15	6	583	17	Profile
filtered	2011-2017	31	54	2	2347	200	45.13	4144	56.63	10	5	4	261	7

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2011-2017	63	106	8	5268	243	53.75	9057	58.16	20	15	6	583	17	Profile
filtered	2011-2017	32	52	6	2921	243	63.50	4913	59.45	10	10	2	322	10

This is Sachin's. 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	1989-2013	200	329	33	15921	248*	53.78	29437+	54.04*	51	68	14	2058+	69	Profile
filtered	1989-2012	106	176	17	8705	248*	54.74	15885	54.80	29	36	10	1115	33

filtered ante overseas ah?

[Batman_fan]

Just now, Demigod said:

filtered ante overseas ah?

yes

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2 minutes ago, Batman_fan said:

Lets compare the stats. This is Kohli's average away and home. Difference is around 18.  All great players have this number less than 5. He needs to score a century in every test match outside India to improve this. Can he do that?

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2011-2017	63	106	8	5268	243	53.75	9057	58.16	20	15	6	583	17	Profile
filtered	2011-2017	31	54	2	2347	200	45.13	4144	56.63	10	5	4	261	7

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2011-2017	63	106	8	5268	243	53.75	9057	58.16	20	15	6	583	17	Profile
filtered	2011-2017	32	52	6	2921	243	63.50	4913	59.45	10	10	2	322	10

This is Sachin's. 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	1989-2013	200	329	33	15921	248*	53.78	29437+	54.04*	51	68	14	2058+	69	Profile
filtered	1989-2012	106	176	17	8705	248*	54.74	15885	54.80	29	36	10	1115	33

He'll most likely beat Sachin's records.

I'd still find it annoying that someone who lived through Sachin wants to rub Sachin fans nose with VK's records.

Why not pick Dravid to compare with Sachin? Dravid surely comes off as a much better and dependable batsman than Sachin.

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compare Dravid and Sachin, and there's lot of material to pick on Sachin's supporters mad rush to label him GOD.

Don't insult others intelligence by picking VK.

[Demigod]

1 minute ago, Batman_fan said:

yes

okay aina matches enti anni takkuva unnai..oh ok only tests ah.. avg takkuva undi because mostly VK career beginning lo overseas tours unnai tarvata anni home games.. ippudu next 18 months anni away tours... so chuddam avg improve avuddi.. across all formats teesukunte then sure vadi averages better than sachin untai ga (if we go only by numbers like u did) aina nenu na first comment lo ne cheppa naku sachin kante VK istam ani.. 

[Batman_fan]

9 minutes ago, uttermost said:

He'll most likely beat Sachin's records.

I'd still find it annoying that someone who lived through Sachin wants to rub Sachin fans nose with VK's records.

Why not pick Dravid to compare with Sachin? Dravid surely comes off as a much better and dependable batsman than Sachin.

Not all. Not the ones that tell the story of Sachin. Consistency for 2 decades. His total runs/centuries will be there forever.  Kohli is already into his 8 year and he didn't even reach 50% of what Sachin scored. Kohli has only 6 years left. 

[Demigod]

10 minutes ago, uttermost said:

VK is a product of his times. anthaku minchi emi ledhu.

to use VK to deride Sachin fans is bullshit. 

what's this 'reading the game'? its not survey map, lol. Its a simple game where you should hit more runs than your opponent. bowlers and captain can have strategies with field settings, but there's nothing much for a batsman to 'read' into the game, as far as I know.

Cant agree to this point...antha cheap ga teesi pareyyaku..every sport needs a strategy to win..reading the game ante eppudu attack cheyali eppudu defensive ga adali which bowler to target ivi..aina ivi anni ikkada discuss cheyadam anavasaram..as i said e point ki I cant agree bro..

[Demigod]

1 minute ago, Batman_fan said:

Not all. Not the ones that tell the story of Sachin. Consistency for 2 decades. His total runs/centuries will be thee forever.  Kohli is already into his 8 year and he didn't even reach 50% of what Sachin scored. Kohli has only 6 years left. 

Anni records cross cheyaledemo as u said but definite ga he will cross a few like number of centuries etc

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1 minute ago, Demigod said:

Cant agree to this point...antha cheap ga teesi pareyyaku..every sport needs a strategy to win..reading the game ante eppudu attack cheyali eppudu defensive ga adali which bowler to target ivi..aina ivi anni ikkada discuss cheyadam anavasaram..as i said e point ki I cant agree bro..

yes. batting in cricket doesn't require much strategy. whatever strategy they speak of, is just simple stuff.

bowling and fielding does require strategies though.

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3 minutes ago, Batman_fan said:

Not all. Not the ones that tell the story of Sachin. Consistency for 2 decades. His total runs/centuries will be there forever.  Kohli is already into his 8 year and he didn't even reach 50% of what Sachin scored. Kohli has only 6 years left. 

The story of Sachin is the story of resurgent India. The stats are just cherry on top.

That's why even when Dravid was more efficient than Sachin in tests, he could never capture the public imagination, the way Sachin did.

VK is a very good player, ofcourse. But India has already arrived, according to many cricket watchers. VK will just cement the dominance, at best.