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[Champsinmaking]

3 minutes ago, KillBill_Pandey69 said:

@CricPokChic @Nellore_peddareddi @KakiJanaky @hello987 @Champsinmaking Do you guys think is poker a skill game or a GAMBLING. If you have to convince somebody that its a skill game how would you do that.

Poker is definitely a skill game with some to lot of variance involved based on your playing style. You can convince by showing the facts why few professionals keep winning always. Show them facts and figures of people with edge and why they always beat the game. 

 

Related to to your precious post. That’s why I want Indian poker community to grow, so that people will understand more about poker that it’s not just gambling like roulette. It is very important for your better half to support you, not just in poker, in anything you do in life. And it would be your job to convince. If you cannot you better give up that aspect completely. Again as I said prioritize what you want.

[hello987]

18 minutes ago, KillBill_Pandey69 said:

@Champsinmaking you are right. Anyone and everyone should do a really good reading and learning before they play. But at the same time when anyone is 60-80% confidence about there game they need to put there learning on the table on the spot and live situation. So, what am just trying to say is when you have a very good understanding of game you need to spend quality amount of hours at the tables. I am no expert to speak about all this is because I myself started learning Poker recently. The only reason I am posting is because I had same discussion with couple of friends this weekend. What they were saying was playing at the tables is very tough after marriage because of Indian mentality they try to explain there wife's poker is a skill game they need to spend some hours at the table(Ex: Monthly twice every session 6-8 hours) But wife always fighting because they think its gambling. Every time he mentions about going for a session there s a big fight and his wife blames him to be a gambler...With all this kind of mental tensions and with baby's around you can not put quality hours at the table. But friends were saying they have American friends who have families but there wife's support them in playing they(Americans) go once a week for 7-8 hours make 1k and go home... At the end if you have an understanding and supportive family it can be done if not even of 20 years and good skill at game you would go no were. 

I also personally want the poker community to grow good in Indian community but after looking at my friends I feel wife' and families should support husbands... 

100% true...nuvvu enni cheppina vaallu nammaru...they think this is gambling anthe...

[hello987]

18 minutes ago, KillBill_Pandey69 said:

@CricPokChic @Nellore_peddareddi @KakiJanaky @hello987 @Champsinmaking Do you guys think is poker a skill game or a GAMBLING. If you have to convince somebody that its a skill game how would you do that.

Mana Indians ni convince cheyalem....

[CricPokChic]

Poker Is More a Game of Skill Than of Chance, a Judge Rules

 

The game was Texas Hold ’Em. About $300 bought a place at the table in the back room of a warehouse on Staten Island, where waitresses floated around with food and drinks and the play lasted until breakfast.

The pot went not to the luckiest among them but to the most deft — the player who could guess his opponents’ intentions and disguise his own, make calculated decisions on when to hold and fold, and quickly decide how much to wager. That, anyhow, is how one federal judge saw it from his chambers in the Federal District Court in Brooklyn.

In a ruling that goes to the heart of what it means to play poker, Judge Jack B. Weinstein tossed out the conviction and vacated the indictment of the man who ran that gambling business. The judge’s reason: poker is more a game of skill than a game of chance, so game operators should not be prosecuted under the federal law the prohibits running an illegal gambling business.

“The most skillful professionals earn the same celestial salaries as professional ballplayers,” he wrote in the exhaustive 120-page ruling that detailed the history of poker in the United States. The decision comes as state courts across the country are grappling with whether playing poker defies the law. No federal court had ever ruled directly on whether poker constituted gambling. The United States attorney’s office, which was reviewing the decision, did not say whether it would appeal the case.

The Poker Player’s Alliance, an organization that works to decriminalize poker and that filed an amicus brief in the case, released a statement lauding the decision. 

 

 

 

 

“As we worked for years defending players against vague gambling laws, we have patiently waited for the right opportunity to raise the issue in federal court,” John Pappas, the executive director of the organization, said in a statement. “Today’s federal court ruling is a major victory for the game of poker and the millions of Americans who enjoy playing it.” 

 

 

Lawrence DiCristina ran the warehouse where the games took place — that was not in dispute — taking 5 percent of each night’s pot to cover the cost of his staff and profit for himself. He was arrested last summer, charged with operating an illegal gambling business, of which he was convicted in July. He faced up to 10 years in prison.

But Mr. DiCristina’s lawyer, Kannan Sundaram, a public defender, said poker was not a game of chance and therefore not subject to the law. He called an expert witness, Randal D. Heeb, an economist, statistician and poker player in national tournaments, who testified in a special hearing about the skill involved.

Judge Weinstein put off ruling on the issue until after the trial, allowing the jury to render its verdict first.

[Nellore_peddareddi]

4 hours ago, KillBill_Pandey69 said:

@CricPokChic @Nellore_peddareddi @KakiJanaky @hello987 @Champsinmaking Do you guys think is poker a skill game or a GAMBLING. If you have to convince somebody that its a skill game how would you do that.

It's a skill game but unfortunately it don't work in low stakes. You have to play high stakes to show your skill, $100 $500 evadina calls chesthadu 

[hello987]

Just now, Nellore_peddareddi said:

It's a skill game but unfortunately it don't work in low stakes. You have to play high stakes to show your skill, $100 $500 evadina calls chesthadu 

what about tournament?

[hello987]

Big 50 total ga 8 days jargudhi anta....

[Nellore_peddareddi]

4 hours ago, KillBill_Pandey69 said:

@CricPokChic @Nellore_peddareddi @KakiJanaky @hello987 @Champsinmaking Do you guys think is poker a skill game or a GAMBLING. If you have to convince somebody that its a skill game how would you do that.

It is a skill game as you control the game and not the casino. You can bet, fold, call and the decision is always yours. And yes, people get lucky in some spots, that don't mean the player is throwing money to gamble, he is throwing money only coz he can improve his hand in next streets if he is behind or he feel he is ahead. 

People can run bad for a day, a week, a month or 6 months but if he is running bad forever, it's not that he is running bad he is playing bad and have no idea what he is doing.

[CricPokChic]

2 minutes ago, hello987 said:

Big 50 total ga 8 days jargudhi anta....

Day 1 is May 30/May31/Jun1/Jun2

Day 2 is on Jun 3rd

Day 3-Jun 4th

Day 4-June 5th

depending on entries day 5 might be neccesary on -June 6th

 

so total 4 days if not max 5 days......

[CricPokChic]

5 minutes ago, Nellore_peddareddi said:

It is a skill game as you control the game and not the casino. You can bet, fold, call and the decision is always yours. And yes, people get lucky in some spots, that don't mean the player is throwing money to gamble, he is throwing money only coz he can improve his hand in next streets if he is behind or he feel he is ahead. 

People can run bad for a day, a week, a month or 6 months but if he is running bad forever, it's not that he is running bad he is playing bad and have no idea what he is doing.

yeah...a good player will have profits in the long term

a bad player will have losses in the long term....

[hello987]

1 minute ago, CricPokChic said:

Day 1 is May 30/May31/Jun1/Jun2

Day 2 is on Jun 3rd

Day 3-Jun 4th

Day 4-June 5th

depending on entries day 5 might be neccesary on -June 6th

 

so total 4 days if not max 5 days......

yeah adhele day 1, 4 days nadusthadi kadha....travel ela plan cheyalo ento artham avvatle

[hello987]

2 minutes ago, CricPokChic said:

Day 1 is May 30/May31/Jun1/Jun2

Day 2 is on Jun 3rd

Day 3-Jun 4th

Day 4-June 5th

depending on entries day 5 might be neccesary on -June 6th

 

so total 4 days if not max 5 days......

kavalante two flights lo aadochu ankunta kadha

[Nellore_peddareddi]

4 minutes ago, hello987 said:

what about tournament?

Initial levels yes you have to pick spots to increase your stack, but doesn't mean you shove with 38 suited and gamble. So it's never a gamble and you can cash out in most cases. Always keep your chips on right spot. Yes - luck should go your way when you are calling or jamming with AK or some AX suited hand in some spots. 

[CricPokChic]

3 minutes ago, hello987 said:

kavalante two flights lo aadochu ankunta kadha

ya eliminate ayite u can play in the same flight or can reenter in a different flight

[hello987]

Just now, CricPokChic said:

ya eliminate ayite u can play in the same flight or can reenter in a different flight

eliminate avvakapoina inko flight lo aadochu...ekkuva chips dhentlo unte avi consider chestharu ankunta