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4 minutes ago, telugu_bidda said:

same old man gadu oka hand super lucky ayyadu 

vadu BB nenu UTG+2  with red AA , 25 raise chesa SB n old man BB call chesadu 

Flop AK10ccc 

sb, bb check nenu 50 bet chesa sb fold old man bb all in annadu like 450-500 stack call chesa he had AK drawing dead 

but turn n river clubs so we chopped  GSB3.gif?1370457845

These runouts are sick. Ee spots lo AK over ga adaddu when three clubs and straight already possible. Old man just went with it and got crazy run out. You are never folding anyway. GSB3.gif?1370457845

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5 minutes ago, Nellore_peddareddi said:

Of course you should flat and nee turn card itself says your range is 10. Aadu 200 river bet is somewhat value bet but looks like weak too after turn 150 raise. I would in general try to squeeze these pots but he is never calling without a better hand anyway. So call and see his cards just in case he might hold K10. If SB bets 450 range repping full house there nu easy fold chese vadivi. I think SB played poorly his hand. Antha manchi odds vasthu with 10 in hand you should never fold for 200. This hand explains you how people play scared when they are beat many times.GSB3.gif?1370457845

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yes nenu expect cheyaledhu AJ, limped pot I can easily have 10 

river J i didn't like as I can't beat 10j.. I just called because of his sizing ...450 or all in antey I would have folded 

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5 minutes ago, Nellore_peddareddi said:

These runouts are sick. Ee spots lo AK over ga adaddu when three clubs and straight already possible. Old man just went with it and got crazy run out. You are never folding anyway. GSB3.gif?1370457845

How much will u raise with AA or KK from utg 1 or 2 usually ? 2/5 and 5/10 lo 

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Just now, telugu_bidda said:

yes nenu expect cheyaledhu AJ, limped pot I can easily have 10 

river J i didn't like as I can't beat 10j.. I just called because of his sizing ...450 or all in antey I would have folded 

I want you to learn from this pot. I always bluff mostly in these spots when opponent hand is very clear and if he is folding for bet. You can't make good cash outs without bluffing in some spots. He can easily have 10J here, but usually in 2/5 people don't go for value with full house, most people over bet and don't get called. So you kind of need to do it reverse to get paid with hand and make people fold when they hold better hand.  Remember, some spots you should give up too.GSB3.gif?1370457845

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8 minutes ago, Nellore_peddareddi said:

I want you to learn from this pot. I always bluff mostly in these spots when opponent hand is very clear and if he is folding for bet. You can't make good cash outs without bluffing in some spots. He can easily have 10J here, but usually in 2/5 people don't go for value with full house, most people over bet and don't get called. So you kind of need to do it reverse to get paid with hand and make people fold when they hold better hand.  Remember, some spots you should give up too.

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u mean don't over bet when we have nuts 

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2 minutes ago, telugu_bidda said:

also share some recent hands if u remember  where u have tough decision to make on turn or river 

Last week waiting for 5/10 and in mean time 2/5 loki vella. Preflop AJ tho opened 25 utg. I almost open with almost all my playing hands. I have 1.2k behind.

4 people called me. Flop is K310 with two diamonds. I check, next guy check and villain bets 30 now, very cheap bet. All call him. Turn comes Q no diamond and I make nuts now. I check, next guy check, villain bets 75 now, button calls 75 and I have got to raise out of position now. I make it 235 to go. Villain thinks for lot time and want to jam but ended up calling. Button folds.

River is blank card flush don't gets there and I looked at him stack and kept him allin for 800. Now action on him, He tanks for few mins and asks me what you got. I said I've nuts and you should fold. He then asks really. Me: Ofcouse I do, He then throws a chip into pot  and said call. He has K10. I scoop the pot GSB3.gif?1370457845

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10 minutes ago, Nellore_peddareddi said:

I want you to learn from this pot. I always bluff mostly in these spots when opponent hand is very clear and if he is folding for bet. You can't make good cash outs without bluffing in some spots. He can easily have 10J here, but usually in 2/5 people don't go for value with full house, most people over bet and don't get called. So you kind of need to do it reverse to get paid with hand and make people fold when they hold better hand.  Remember, some spots you should give up too.

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so in this spot opponent bets 450 u suggest I should call ?  remember this is a limp pot 

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3 minutes ago, Nellore_peddareddi said:

Last week waiting for 5/10 and in mean time 2/5 loki vella. Preflop AJ tho opened 25 utg. I almost open with almost all my playing hands. I have 1.2k behind.

4 people called me. Flop is K310 with two diamonds. I check, next guy check and villain bets 30 now, very cheap bet. All call him. Turn comes Q no diamond and I make nuts now. I check, next guy check, villain bets 75 now, button calls 75 and I have got to raise out of position now. I make it 235 to go. Villain thinks for lot time and want to jam but ended up calling. Button folds.

River is blank card flush don't gets there and I looked at him stack and kept him allin for 800. Now action on him, He tanks for few mins and asks me what you got. I said I've nuts and you should fold. He then asks really. Me: Ofcouse I do, He then throws a chip into pot  and said call. He has K10. I scoop the pot GSB3.gif?1370457845

cool nice turn n u got full value ...niku flush draw vundi anukunadu emo like pair + flush 

 

what if river card is diamond n opponent push all in ? 

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1 minute ago, telugu_bidda said:

u mean don't over bet when we have nuts 

Overbet when the pot is huge, and opponent have very strong hand and you need to be sure he's calling you when you having nuts. I mean you need to act to the situation that you missed everything on board. Konni boards lo people fold for big bets as the board which you got, like board paired and you holding weak trips type, you might fold for big bet keeping him on fullhouse, so if I'm the SB there I might check river or bet 450 holding AJ and know that you call 200-250 range. And if I hold fullhouse I bet 200-250 range. GSB3.gif?1370457845

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4 minutes ago, telugu_bidda said:

cool nice turn n u got full value ...niku flush draw vundi anukunadu emo like pair + flush 

 

what if river card is diamond n opponent push all in ? 

In general If I've medium flush and opponent showing so much strength on river allin I fold if the pot is not huge. Bluff range is less as you are calling for flush too here. He should be scared if diamond shows up. It's not easy for many people to lead with weak hand on river. people play dumb on flop and on turn but not on river. GSB3.gif?1370457845

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13 minutes ago, telugu_bidda said:

so in this spot opponent bets 450 u suggest I should call ?  remember this is a limp pot 

As i said people are scared to bet big in 2/5 without hand. So 450 bet ofcourse you should fold.  But you don't see people betting for bluff here 450 unless he is good player. You don't get into those spots many times. Easy fold for 450. But I'm telling you how to play if you hold AJ here and want to turn it to bluff.  GSB3.gif?1370457845

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36 minutes ago, telugu_bidda said:

How much will u raise with AA or KK from utg 1 or 2 usually ? 2/5 and 5/10 lo 

Any hand in 2/5 I open with 20-25 mostly. 5/10 lo 35. If I play hand I try to play big pot. GSB3.gif?1370457845

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22 minutes ago, telugu_bidda said:

cool nice turn n u got full value ...niku flush draw vundi anukunadu emo like pair + flush 

 

what if river card is diamond n opponent push all in ? 

In multiway, flush draw tho you should always flat on turn. So ikkada I will only flat 75. Standard play. if you are raising here you are only losing more GSB3.gif?1370457845

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1 hour ago, Nellore_peddareddi said:

In multiway, flush draw tho you should always flat on turn. So ikkada I will only flat 75. Standard play. if you are raising here you are only losing more GSB3.gif?1370457845

Yes I always flat but I see lot of players raise ...I feel there is no merit in raising turn, just giving up our equity if opponent shoves 

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