anyone following SADGURU?

[Rshiva]

7 minutes ago, Beardman said:

Complaints like racist, anti semite etc ..too much conspiracy

oh ! I did not knew about that. recently visited a temple in WV. I was shocked to see whites doing bhajans there. There was also a golden palace on him and the guide(White lady) explained how he come to US and turned lot of hippies into saints and translated bhagavad gita.

[jajjanaka_jandri]

10 hours ago, ARYA said:

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nope, he is a phony

[BDurruti]

8 hours ago, Peter123 said:

only wrong is how trust worthy the preaching person is...there are many allegations and contros on sadguru also just like every other fake baba on streets, what i am trying to say here is to preach its not easy thing, he may not be the right person to preach...he is not a god person...and people should be aware....he is not a saint person anyway then why do anyone has to follow...perhaps they're stupid and thats nothing wrong in following these fake guruji's ? huh...

them/people believe because of no awareness is what i feel...people beleived so many fake babas over the years/centuries...they did realize the fact later as well (nitayanands swamy for instance, or tons of street babas).. so people belive not just because it suits them, people believe because they just didnt know that these fake babas are stupid, also no awareness..also no control on oneselves, like i always say you're the hero of your life, you know what is right and wrong, so go for it, if you're not sure about yourself then fix it is the solution rather than being dependent on someone... JMO...

narcissism is not the alternative to fighting collective brain fade. yea Sadguru is shady, all gurus are shady, heck even 1000yr old Shankara mutt head is shady and has allegations of murder against him. people with power are mostly shady.

you can't fix all problems yourself. If you think you can, you are deluded or you are a sociopath who doesn't feel much. You can, however, share your life with others and fix problems. most problems are created by social conditions, and these gurus are well positioned to exploit people, because most people have lost the art of speaking to another person, trusting another person, and working with another person for mutual benefit.;

[BDurruti]

2 hours ago, ekunadam_enkanna said:

His talk on "ignorance being bliss" is plain bullsh1t. Indian traditions for millennia have talked about "what prevents from achieving enlightenment (gyanodaya)". These traditions provide an answer in terms of agyaana/avidya/etc. If we use the English word, "ignorance" plays a huge explanatory role in explaining what prevents us from getting enlightened. Now we hear all crap  like "ignorance is bliss". Yes, Ignorance is bliss, if you are running a comedy show or writing movie dialogues. Today, we don't even have a proper answer to "what is knowledge(or sciences)". It doesn't prevent one from talking about "agyaana/ignorance".

I don't have any other issues with Sadguru. I don't care whether he charges $5K for inner engineering, whether he owns two helicopters, whether he flies in the first class, whether he is charming, whether he has 'stolen' land from the government, since my judgement doesn't depend on the latter set of factors.

if that is your problem, then you are just posing. Are you qualified to critique Jaggi's lame philosophy borrowed from Indian thought from a millenia? Most people can't, and are fine with Jaggi diluting complicated philosophy into attractive and banal one liners that can be easily consumed.

yes, that he's a murderer, and a forest land usurper is more important than whether he can do genuine philosophy.

[BDurruti]

2 hours ago, meri_zindagi said:

Definitely he is not the guru to follow. But you can always listen to someone either sadhguru or your friends. Yet follow what your conscience says. 

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, no matter whoever said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. (Buddha)

If you are real serious about finding a guru to whom you can listen, I am not sure if you can find someone.

Even the preachings of Buddha what we have as of today are not written by him. They were passed to followers and someone has scripted them after ages and it is tough to find the original version.

You can read Vedas or you can follow preachings of someone who has read them. 

Between what has triggered you to think about relying on someone.

yeah. one man can't give you solutions, or even point you in the right direction. Not even vedas can.

because there is no 'right' direction.

[Peter123]

1 minute ago, BDurruti said:

narcissism is not the alternative to fighting collective brain fade. yea Sadguru is shady, all gurus are shady, heck even 1000yr old Shankara mutt head is shady and has allegations of murder against him. people with power are mostly shady.

you can't fix all problems yourself. If you think you can, you are deluded or you are a sociopath who doesn't feel much. You can, however, share your life with others and fix problems. most problems are created by social conditions, and these gurus are well positioned to exploit people, because most people have lost the art of speaking to another person, trusting another person, and working with another person for mutual benefit.;

fixing problem ourselves aint a big deal. it just needs discipline thats all, too much epectations on each and every small things is what most people tend do and when they fail, they get depressed, its all about thiking, when you plan something, take its pros and cons, how and what you'd end up, like permuations and combinations, when you know the output and you calculated in every way, then your're all good to go, the problem lies when we most people think that it'll thru (optiomistic in every case, well we can hope, but reality is diff, so it may not work the way we intended to..hence depressions, and analyze ourselves that we need someone's help to overcome our depression, thats silly now,..)...this whole explanation leads to one principle in geeta which says do not expect a whole lot, or do not expect anything when you do something...people are freaking selfish in every sh!t vs expectations in every sh!t, hence depressions, fail cases, whch leads to fake baba's around who target you because of your sad face and also rob you finacially too.. 

these so called fake baba's are piece of Sh!t...look at his smart call, hey people dont follow me, i am just plain stupid who do preaching, what the fuk does he even want to do,,,if he wont claim not to follow me, he'd end up being in big trouble, guys like me will whoop his ass for his  sayings...

sadly..people didnt buy any sh!t from the movie OMG also..which by all means is a great movie, these people should learn from such movies....

[BDurruti]

6 hours ago, DaVinci said:

What are those allegations and controversies

he killed his wife and claimed she attained mahasamadhi.

he destroyed an elephant corridor in the western ghat region

he started fake movements like 'rally for rivers' on the behest of agri corporates.

 

[Peter123]

4 minutes ago, BDurruti said:

he killed his wife and claimed she attained mahasamadhi.

he destroyed an elephant corridor in the western ghat region

he started fake movements like 'rally for rivers' on the behest of agri corporates.

 

he was a suspect, if he'd be proven guilty in this he'd end up in jail  ? dont you think, ? how can you say that he killed his wife man ? he could have and i wont be surprised if he did, but we dont know the exct truth ? 

[BDurruti]

2 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

fixing problem ourselves aint a big dea

lol. just because your life is fine and dandy, doesn't mean everyone can fix problems by themselves.

you haven't thought through this deeply enough. Just criticizing babas is pointless, people will keep needing them, because they find that an acceptable alternative.

people have needs - physical, financial, emotional, social etc. All of them cannot be fixed, just by fixing yourself.

forget baba man. most people will be happy to have a friend. even a lousy friend who just around. this baba feeds that need.

 

[BDurruti]

Just now, Peter123 said:

he was a suspect, if he'd be proven guilty in this he'd end up in jail  ? dont you think, ? how can you say that he killed his wife man ? he could have and i wont be surprised if he did, but we dont know the exct truth ? 

lol. he claimed that she attained mahasamadhi in front of dozens of people. he didn't claim that his wife was missing.

it can be safely deduced that he's the murderer and the rest are accomplices in covering up for him.

[Peter123]

2 minutes ago, BDurruti said:

lol. he claimed that she attained mahasamadhi in front of dozens of people. he didn't claim that his wife was missing.

it can be safely deduced that he's the murderer and the rest are accomplices in covering up for him.

until he plead guilty, you cant call out tht he is a murdered based on assumptions and calculations, there is this system called law and order, you need to follow that even if it makes sense or no...any thoughts ? 

[BDurruti]

11 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

this whole explanation leads to one principle in geeta which says do not expect a whole lot, or do not expect anything when you do something...people are freaking selfish in every sh!t vs expectations in every sh!t,

so you think only selfish people have issues, when they can't meet their expectations? you mean everyone is selfish?

how old are you?

I bet that 90% of ppl are miserable. It not just selfishness, but a lack of connection to other people.

why is it wrong to expect 'anything' from others? then what's the point of living in a society?

 

[BDurruti]

1 minute ago, Peter123 said:

until he plead guilty, you cant call out tht he is a murdered based on assumptions and calculations, there is this system called law and order, you need to follow that even if it makes sense or no...any thoughts ? 

yea. he killed his wife.

[reality]

11 hours ago, MagaMaharaju said:

I practice Shambavi Mudra every morning 

Is it meditation, sort of?

[MagaMaharaju]

Just now, reality said:

Is it meditation, sort of?

Yea