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1 minute ago, chittimallu_14 said:

 

mana thaatha mutthathalu 5 kakapothe 10 mandi ni kantaru... as long as they didnt live on tax payers money why the feck does anyone care about it? Also you are talking about past generations when people werent educated... ipudu entha mandhi kantunnaru more than 2 or 3 for that matter... But still today if you go to old city in Hyd you will see a cricket, football, rugby teams in most of the houses... 

The problem is not only about having so many kids but also the burden posted on taxpayers

if you are poor you would see your children (boy) as strength to family. yekkuva boys unte antha strength .

that's normal human pattern all over world

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monna BR Shafi oka intv lo adigite oka panikiranodu undekana 10 mandi paniki ochevalu kanadam tapu ledu kada deshaniki ata.. putetodu paniki ostada rada etla telustadi anukoni i cut watching interview.

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14 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

Valla belief system is interfering in their social system and integration with other society...this is the problem they have been facing world wide...

Poni vaya, nuvve cheppu....social system and religious beliefs ni etla separate chesi equality under the hood etla prepare cheyalo....

This is a never ending debate but Muslims are struck in between modernization and beliefs driven society...society expects a different outcome from them and they are not ready to shed their beliefs...

niku middle point ga edaina sokution vunte cheppu...

One way traffic lo middle ground etla kudurthundi? 

You might know this already, the pre-partition demographics of Sindh region in Pakistan. Hindus were the majority. Ipudu emaindi? Uchakothalu, forced conversions. If there are mild/moderate followers of that belief system, they should come out and reform themselves. They won't. Ipudu veela population itlaage penchukuntu pothe, ninnati Sindh paristiti repu West Bengal, Kerala, Telangana ki avvadu ani guarantee enti?

The point is why should they receive freebies for their religious affairs from tax payers money. On a different note, Hindu Temples aalayaala income government ki pothundi. Government vaatini enduku epudu vaaduthundo transperancy undadu. Tolerance ane perutho nonsense baristhunaamu

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16 hours ago, SH_221B said:

Why?

yup why ? they should subsidize Tirupati, kedarnatha, etc etc., trips as well. There are lot of poor ppl who cannot afford to travel north from South to see those temples. Hope BJP will do something about it.

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3 minutes ago, TechAdvice said:

yup why ? they should subsidize Tirupati, kedarnatha, etc etc., trips as well. There are lot of poor ppl who cannot afford to travel north from South to see those temples. Hope BJP will do something about it.

I'm afraid that you will be disappointed. 

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15 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

Muslim community in India are one of the poorest among all classes. 

May be 10-15% are rich and above the middle class but the remaining are lower middle class struggling population. These groups are even excluded from main steam financial services and products because of their religious laws and most vulnerable in the society...  

Now coming to Haj subsidy, Ie Haj Subsidy emi thousands of crores lo emi ledu kada...most of the beneficiaries are the ones who cannot pay for their travel, Haj ki chala expenditure vuntadi and these groups can not afford the travel and paper work. Andukosame ie Haj subsidy...

Some May call it as appeasement ani, etc...Hindus have a proud history of being tolerant through out the history and we are known for our Tolerant. Intha Ghana charitra vunna Hindus, oka Haj subsidy tolerate cheyalema ? 

Aina, vallu emi vrudha karchulaki pedtaledu kada, vallaki vunna oka punyakshetram ki velli darshanam kosame kada...

because of their religious laws and most vulnerable in the society...  ante valla religious laws antha daridram ga vunnai ani vallu voppukoni pothunnara valla devudi deggariki

most of the beneficiaries are the ones who cannot pay for their travel, ...ye program ayina leni vallakane start chestharu but this is religion based adhe problem

valla devudu haj lo vundadam evariki no problem vallu povadam no problem...but international trip to haj ki mana country enduku sponsor cheyyali..plz tell valid reasons ..nuvvu cheppindhi aak paak karivepak laaga vundhi   @3$%@3$%

india lo vunna place ki pampithe konchem mana country lo revnue ayina generate ayyidhi aa place lo bayata desaniki pampi sontha karchulatho ...not good or fair enough

 

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4 minutes ago, JAPAN said:

because of their religious laws and most vulnerable in the society...  ante valla religious laws antha daridram ga vunnai ani vallu voppukoni pothunnara valla devudi deggariki

most of the beneficiaries are the ones who cannot pay for their travel, ...ye program ayina leni vallakane start chestharu but this is religion based adhe problem

valla devudu haj lo vundadam evariki no problem vallu povadam no problem...but international trip to haj ki mana country enduku sponsor cheyyali..plz tell valid reasons ..nuvvu cheppindhi aak paak karivepak laaga vundhi   @3$%@3$%

india lo vunna place ki pampithe konchem mana country lo revnue ayina generate ayyidhi aa place lo bayata desaniki pampi sontha karchulatho ...not good or fair enough

 

International trip aina Haj ki mana country enduku sponsor cheyali ani chetta logics venakala value And worth telusa ?

Saudi ki India is one of the biggest trade partners, Saudi oil international barrel price kante kuda takuva ki vastadi manaki, Saudi has most number of Indian blue collar labor, Indian remittances to India from Saudi are much bigger than from US...

Regional pacts vuntayi, inter country relations ani vuntayi, Saudi nundi philanthropic donations vastayi, FYI Owaisi hosiptal and Mexican research center ki kuda Saudi and gulf nundi donations vastayi to treat for lower prices irrespective of religions, etc...

There are a lot of things that happen behind the door politics

Haj is devoted pilgrimage center for Muslims, thy cannot be replaced or create an another one.

 

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Like I said earlier, Indian Muslims are facing a tough time integrating with society...with country laws on one side and religious laws on the other side...

veetini balance cheyadam lo personal laws chala fail ayinayi, ipatiki oka amicable solution ledu...

Because of ledtout of main stream society, entire community is lagging behind with majorities by a generation and the perils of their life today are nothing but what we experienced three decades back, they are experiencing now. 

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2 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

International trip aina Haj ki mana country enduku sponsor cheyali ani chetta logics venakala value And worth telusa ?

Saudi ki India is one of the biggest trade partners, Saudi oil international barrel price kante kuda takuva ki vastadi manaki, Saudi has most number of Indian blue collar labor, Indian remittances to India from Saudi are much bigger than from US...

Regional pacts vuntayi, inter country relations ani vuntayi, Saudi nundi philanthropic donations vastayi, FYI Owaisi hosiptal and Mexican research center ki kuda Saudi and gulf nundi donations vastayi to treat for lower prices irrespective of religions, etc...

There are a lot of things that happen behind the door politics

Haj is devoted pilgrimage center for Muslims, thy cannot be replaced or create an another one.

 

okkati ardham avuthadhi nee posts choosthe.. u try to make every topic looks like you know the answer for everything 

Haj subsidy valla ivanni vasthayi ani prove cheyyali anukuntunnava...:giggle:@3$% for god sake bring up more trash and dump on DB sFun_duh2

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1 minute ago, JAPAN said:

okkati ardham avuthadhi nee posts choosthe.. u try to make every topic looks like you know the answer for everything 

Haj subsidy valla ivanni vasthayi ani prove cheyyali anukuntunnava...:giggle:@3$% for god sake bring up more trash and dump on DB sFun_duh2

Haj Subsidy valla ivanni vastayi ani cheptaledu...Saudi is such an important trading partnet and Haj Subsidy venukala chal katha karvanam vundi ani cheptunna

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ayina enduku inka ee discussion

supreme court 2022 ki etheyamani cheppindhi

already 2018 lo govt withdrawn chesindhi haj subsidy ni

malli congress vasthe start chesthademo malli

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18 minutes ago, JAPAN said:

ayina enduku inka ee discussion

supreme court 2022 ki etheyamani cheppindhi

already 2018 lo govt withdrawn chesindhi haj subsidy ni

malli congress vasthe start chesthademo malli

The end

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14 hours ago, jalsa01 said:

With the same respect... Population growth rate since independence chudu evardi ekkuvundo...

You mean this?

 

Religious
group
Population (2011)
%
Growth
(2001–2011)[57][58]
Sex ratio(2011)
(total)[59]
Sex ratio (2011)
(rural)
Sex ratio (2011)
(urban)
Sex ratio (2011)
(child)[60]
Literacy(2011)
(%)[61]
Work participation(2011)
(%)[59][62]
Hinduism 79.80% 16.8% 939 946 921 913 73.3% 41.0%
Islam 14.23% 24.6% 951 957 941 943 68.5% 32.6%
Christianity 2.30% 15.5% 1023 1008 1046 958 84.5% 41.9%
Sikhism 1.72% 8.4% 903 905 898 828 75.4% 36.3%
Buddhism 0.70% 6.1% 965 960 973 933 81.3% 43.1%
Jainism 0.37% 5.4% 954 935 959 889 94.9% 35.5%
Others/Religion not specified 0.90% n/a 959 947 975 974 n/a n/a
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1 hour ago, Android_Halwa said:

International trip aina Haj ki mana country enduku sponsor cheyali ani chetta logics venakala value And worth telusa ?

Saudi ki India is one of the biggest trade partners, Saudi oil international barrel price kante kuda takuva ki vastadi manaki, Saudi has most number of Indian blue collar labor, Indian remittances to India from Saudi are much bigger than from US...

Regional pacts vuntayi, inter country relations ani vuntayi, Saudi nundi philanthropic donations vastayi, FYI Owaisi hosiptal and Mexican research center ki kuda Saudi and gulf nundi donations vastayi to treat for lower prices irrespective of religions, etc...

There are a lot of things that happen behind the door politics

Haj is devoted pilgrimage center for Muslims, thy cannot be replaced or create an another one.

 

SC has directed central govt. to end this haj subsidy practice by 2022.

lot of states fund Hindu pilgrimage. Especially MP, UP.

Karnataka provides subsidy for char dham yatra for it's residents.

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5 hours ago, Anta Assamey said:

I am also not crying on Muslims ... Vallaki Biryani pedutunaru kada... Naaku pettandi ani telling .... Vallaki iste aagi poni Progress naaku iste kuda pokudadu ...

I am saying no biryani to anyone @Anta Assamey silent_I1

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