Karma Siddantham

[Beardman]

5 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

you still did not answer my prev q to you bro...

here again 

In His Justice, every deed or thought of evil has its consequence for the doer or thinker. But in this life, there is always room for repentance and amendment. As soon as this is forthcoming, Allah’s Mercy comes into action.

this says karma ? consequences is nothing but karma ? whats your call ? 

is there is no concept of past lives, rebirth, moksha then i i believe cause and effect and dont want to name a sanskrit word karma for it.

Also i believe in freewill given to humans.

 

 

 

[Peter123]

Just now, Beardman said:

What will you do if enemy stands in front of you. You beg god for moksha or fight.

as per nature you will fight because of flight or fight harmone.

Only a fool will ask for moksha

common sense

when enemy stands in front of you has nothing to do with moksha bro, moksha is complete diff topic here.

coming to youq q, when enemy stands in front of you, you protect yourself which is dharma (doing your duty), if you die in his hands it is your karma, die/live are the 2 options here which are covered by dharma and karma. If you ended up in a hospital with injuries you did some good karma in the past which saved your life, and some bad karma as well which you ended up with some injuries. 

somehwere on the top you mentioned everything is predetermined, then what you do when enemy stands in front of you, just stnd and watch since evrything is predetermined/pre planned ? any thoughts 

[Beardman]

Just now, Peter123 said:

when enemy stands in front of you has nothing to do with moksha bro, moksha is complete diff topic here.

coming to youq q, when enemy stands in front of you, you protect yourself which is dharma (doing your duty), if you die in his hands it is your karma, die/live are the 2 options here which are covered by dharma and karma. If you ended up in a hospital with injuries you did some good karma in the past which saved your life, and some bad karma as well which you ended up with some injuries. 

somehwere on the top you mentioned everything is predetermined, then what you do when enemy stands in front of you, just stnd and watch since evrything is predetermined/pre planned ? any thoughts 

I will fight since i know its predetermined

[Hector8]

12 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

whole family lo unna each individual karma bro...kid chanipothey thats how much he got from his previous, also dad suffer avte he got this bad action from somewhere his prev karma,...same to mom as well, individual balance sheet...how thats calculated we dont know....manam cheygalegedi okate do good be good, which will result in good karma and will minus your bad karma now and previous borths, so going forwrd you attain more good karma in future, at one point you will be free from bad karma and wil attain moksha. No more births from here. 

moksham kosam endaro maha pandithulu gnanulu tappasu chesaru, devudni vedukunaru because thats eternal, not easy to get moksha.

once moksham vasthey ila chnaipovadam bada padadam, kastalu sukhalu inka emi undaav kadha...hope you got it 

from where did you get this infomation

[Peter123]

3 minutes ago, Beardman said:

is there is no concept of past lives, rebirth, moksha then i i believe cause and effect and dont want to name a sanskrit word karma for it.

Also i believe in freewill given to humans.

 

 

 

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freewill given to humans ?

why does bad keep happening for good people ? why does good happen to bad people ? 

[Peter123]

1 minute ago, Hector8 said:

from where did you get this infomation

upanishads, puranas, bhagawatam, 

[Beardman]

Just now, Peter123 said:

freewill given to humans ?

why does bad keep happening for good people ? why does good happen to bad people ? 

Don't get baised views based on coincidences. Its chaotic, free will has certain limitations otherwise everyone will become whatever they want.

freewill vs karma.

freewill wins

[Peter123]

3 minutes ago, Beardman said:

I will fight since i know its predetermined

if its predetermined why do you even worship god and ask him to let you good things happen ? do good things ? you shouldnt care anything (do good/bad) if its predetermined ? 

[Hector8]

4 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

upanishads, puranas, bhagawatam, 

koncham exact books or  source pages cheptava 

[Beardman]

1 minute ago, Peter123 said:

if its predetermined why do you even worship god and ask him to let you good things happen ? do good things ? you shouldnt care anything (do good/bad) if its predetermined ? 

Predetermined from 3rd dimensional view.(nature's view)

in 2 dimensional view, we are bound by free will and god

[Peter123]

3 minutes ago, Beardman said:

Don't get baised views based on coincidences. Its chaotic, free will has certain limitations otherwise everyone will become whatever they want.

freewill vs karma.

freewill wins

just sayiing coincidences wont prove your point ? does it ? 

who will define those limitations ? again you believe in predetermination ? 

per you free wil vs predetermination - is a conflict ? dont you think 

[Beardman]

5 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

just sayiing coincidences wont prove your point ? does it ? 

who will define those limitations ? again you believe in predetermination ? 

per you free wil vs predetermination - is a conflict ? dont you think 

Predetermined from 2d dimensional view.(nature's view-past, present, future)

in 3 dimensional view(present), we are bound by free will and god

[Peter123]

2 minutes ago, Hector8 said:

koncham exact books or  source pages cheptava 

reincarnation and karma

The karmic journey

life after life 

chala unnayi bro check in amazon, 

 

[Peter123]

3 minutes ago, Beardman said:

Predetermined from 3rd dimensional view.(nature's view-past, present, future)

in 2 dimensional view(present), we are bound by free will and god

good luck to you mate 

[Beardman]

26 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

if its predetermined why do you even worship god and ask him to let you good things happen ? do good things ? you shouldnt care anything (do good/bad) if its predetermined ? 

Divine destiny is when God wrote down in the Preserved Tablet ("al-Lawhu 'l-Mahfuz") all that has happened and will happen, which will come to pass as written.^{[citation needed]}

According to this belief, a person's action is not caused by what is written in the Preserved Tablet but, rather, the action is written in the Preserved Tablet because God already knows all occurrences without the restrictions of time.^{[5][dead link]}

An individual has power to choose, but since God created time and space he knows what will happen. God is without any bond of time and space. Therefore, what will happen has meaning only to humans, who are limited in time and space. An analogy is someone who watches a movie for the second time, who knows what will happen next, while for the first time watcher the next move is unknown.