Bhagat singhs of telugu land

[lovemystate]

Modi and Shah made some great celebrations recently for bhagat singh as if there is none like him  anywhere. Who is bhagat singh ? a communist who couldnt stand for injustice of british rule and decided to react with violence. Look at this video before and the people here. Arent they all the same ?

 

If entire 1 billion plus north had one bhagat singh. We had them in every village. one can disagree with their methods. I too disagree. But what we must agree is that many of these people come from good families. Instead of CPTs, OPTS, dollars, strip clubs they were shaken by the injustice of system and took up arms, lived in jungles in much hardship. Many were killed or tortured to death before they hit 50 but they still fought.

Posting this to show Telugu people  are also fighting  people. and there is a limit to injustice they can bear.

[lovemystate]

people went crazy about a song "aati kya khandala" ..this song has similiar lyric but much more robust sense of adventure. A real yearning of justice, a sense of enjoying nature and adventure..."pululu ni mingina gorrelu unnayata ..veldam vasthava?"

 

[Gnan_anna]

1 hour ago, lovemystate said:

Modi and Shah made some great celebrations recently for bhagat singh as if there is none like him  anywhere. Who is bhagat singh ? a communist who couldnt stand for injustice of british rule and decided to react with violence. Look at this video before and the people here. Arent they all the same ?

 

If entire 1 billion plus north had one bhagat singh. We had them in every village. one can disagree with their methods. I too disagree. But what we must agree is that many of these people come from good families. Instead of CPTs, OPTS, dollars, strip clubs they were shaken by the injustice of system and took up arms, lived in jungles in much hardship. Many were killed or tortured to death before they hit 50 but they still fought.

Posting this to show Telugu people  are also fighting  people. and there is a limit to injustice they can bear.

Can you tell me how many of the central committee members are from bc and dalits...very minute number...do you know that charu majumdar comes from a class of zamindar's and he never fought a single guerilla war...he was almost on his death bed when he proposed his theory of complete annihilation of the enemy...he was the main reason for the almost perverse diversion of class movt right from it's birth itself....and even the naxalite movt didn't acknowledge the caste system which was it's biggest failure.....don't try to picturise them as messiah's ..yes they were truly brave in their right but we can never compare them to bhaghat Singh.....it was the main failure of central leadership of naxal movt...you don't know the internal politics of that movt...the so called intellectuals who support them or rather gets coverage are almost always from the upper caste hegemony....the only thing the movt is surviving is because of the blunders of the Indian state where in it selectively omits some castes and sects from the fruits of development ...Don't try to picturise them on par with the likes of bhaghath Singh....they are as extremists as the likes of sangh parivar ...extremist views on either side will never be good rather detrimental to the progress of a Nation...

[Gnan_anna]

27 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

people went crazy about a song "aati kya khandala" ..this song has similiar lyric but much more robust sense of adventure. A real yearning of justice, a sense of enjoying nature and adventure..."pululu ni mingina gorrelu unnayata ..veldam vasthava?"

 

Yes on this point I can agree with you that the success of that movt lies in the diversification and the expression of opressed castes through songs and arts....mind you they have been restricted to that arena only...

[lovemystate]

1 minute ago, Gnan_anna said:

Can you tell me how many of the central committee members are from bc and dalits...very minute number...do you know that charu majumdar comes from a class of zamindar's and he never fought a single guerilla war...he was almost on his death bed when he proposed his theory of complete annihilation of the enemy...he was the main reason for the almost perverse diversion of class movt right from it's birth itself....and even the naxalite movt didn't acknowledge the caste system which was it's biggest failure.....don't try to picturise them as messiah's ..yes they were truly brave in their right but we can never compare them to bhaghat Singh.....it was the main failure of central leadership of naxal movt...you don't know the internal politics of that movt...the so called intellectuals who support them or rather gets coverage are almost always from the upper caste hegemony....the only thing the movt is surviving is because of the blunders of the Indian state where in it selectively omits some castes and sects from the fruits of development ...Don't try to picturise them on par with the likes of bhaghath Singh....they are as extremists as the likes of sangh parivar ...extremist views on either side will never be good rather detrimental to the progress of a Nation...

I clearly said i disagree with some of it in my very first post.  Yes they obviously did not call out caste and that led to their failure. But bhagat singhs they surely are - in fact much better than them. you cant compare them with sangh parivar. Sangha parivar are fascist and also ignorant.

[Gnan_anna]

If given a chance their ideology will be on par with dictatorship...in fact any extremist ideology will have this modus in it's finale...right wing or left wing. ...kindly look into the Bolshevik and mensheviks conflict of Russia....the pen of Russian revolution...Leon Trotsky was made to go into hiding and was on his heels until he was killed....any ideology with rigid walls and boundaries are bound to be violent in nature.....the naxalites were wagi g war against their own state....they were killed in an act of what is deemed to be a war of class but in reality it was a war of ideology ....they did not fight for a Nation nor it's freedom...they got confused with class ideology of West and tried to incorporate it to our Indian feudal system which was intricately mired with caste system as well the democracy....they still don't have a clear cut idea on what are the goals of their movt and what are tjeirobjectives and what is final conclusion of their movt....where as bhaghat Singh has crystal clarity on the concept of relegion, democracy and the final conclusion of his movt that is independence to our nation and the aftermath construction of a Nation...there is is lot of difference brother...you are entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to mine...

[lovemystate]

1 minute ago, Gnan_anna said:

If given a chance their ideology will be on par with dictatorship...in fact any extremist ideology will have this modus in it's finale...right wing or left wing. ...kindly look into the Bolshevik and mensheviks conflict of Russia....the pen of Russian revolution...Leon Trotsky was made to go into hiding and was on his heels until he was killed....any ideology with rigid walls and boundaries are bound to be violent in nature.....the naxalites were wagi g war against their own state....they were killed in an act of what is deemed to be a war of class but in reality it was a war of ideology ....they did not fight for a Nation nor it's freedom...they got confused with class ideology of West and tried to incorporate it to our Indian feudal system which was intricately mired with caste system as well the democracy....they still don't have a clear cut idea on what are the goals of their movt and what are tjeirobjectives and what is final conclusion of their movt....where as bhaghat Singh has crystal clarity on the concept of relegion, democracy and the final conclusion of his movt that is independence to our nation and the aftermath construction of a Nation...there is is lot of difference brother...you are entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to mine...

Arey ..my purpose for the post is to show we have people of valor who wont stand what they think is injustice ..not minute analysis. And also to expose the hypocrisy of RSS celebrating bhagat singh. They do that to show that valor comes only from pre-approved north indian feudal caste firmly in grip of hindutva like Jat in this case. Understand the game.

But i dont agree with your intrepretation of bolshevik revolution at all. I think you dont know the case of russians before bolshevik revolution. An average russian then was poorer than average indian under british india !!! Soviet made them superpower. they put the first man in space. gave so much to advance humanity. Yes many mistakes were made too but they took them in forward direction. withtou stalin there was no way they could have defeated the awesome evil of nazis. And do you know our plight if nazis won ?

[jpismahatma]

@lovemystate pichi puuka why are you back? This db is senseless to you.kadha madharchod . leave Canada go back to where you are and fight..

[Gnan_anna]

1 hour ago, lovemystate said:

Arey ..my purpose for the post is to show we have people of valor who wont stand what they think is injustice ..not minute analysis. And also to expose the hypocrisy of RSS celebrating bhagat singh. They do that to show that valor comes only from pre-approved north indian feudal caste firmly in grip of hindutva like Jat in this case. Understand the game.

But i dont agree with your intrepretation of bolshevik revolution at all. I think you dont know the case of russians before bolshevik revolution. An average russian then was poorer than average indian under british india !!! Soviet made them superpower. they put the first man in space. gave so much to advance humanity. Yes many mistakes were made too but they took them in forward direction. withtou stalin there was no way they could have defeated the awesome evil of nazis. And do you know our plight if nazis won ?

I agree to some extent with you on the topic of portrayal of the hegemonic view of valor and attributing it to particular castes ....but it is not only in North India...it is their in South India too...Mana state lo rajus anthe kadha...in fact each and every caste tries to dig in their own history rather create an imaginative history where they can celebrate the warrior heroes belonging to their particular caste....what the rss always does is to cash in on the demographic or the socio cultural hegemonic dividends of various castes or sects in each state aiming at electoral benefits....it is doing same in Tamil Nadu with castes like nadars or in Kerala with castes like ezhava or in Karnataka with castes like lingayats...heck even in northeastern states it's modus operandi is on same lines....

Coming to the Bolshevik and mensheviks ....it was a conflict brother not a revolution...which was running parallel to the irigin and progress of Russian revolution...they were the factions of a single party...i.e social democratic party...the aftermath of Russian revolution resulted in the forced annihilation of mensheviks...it was gory and bloody whose trails were conveniently forgotten by the Russian historians of Stalin era...mistakes can be made but the magnitude of mistakes shouldn't result in the sufferance of peasents and workers class...

Regarding the Nazis...do you know that Hitler came in the garb of socialist to usurp the National socialist party of Germany....he was in fact taken in with open arms by the so called socialists if Germany...do you know that lenin was helped by Hitler to travel to Russia secretly while he was forced to exile in Germany....

Every rigid ideology comes in the garb of utopian result ...finally gets twisted into it's ugly face at the end...

[Gnan_anna]

1 hour ago, lovemystate said:

Arey ..my purpose for the post is to show we have people of valor who wont stand what they think is injustice ..not minute analysis. And also to expose the hypocrisy of RSS celebrating bhagat singh. They do that to show that valor comes only from pre-approved north indian feudal caste firmly in grip of hindutva like Jat in this case. Understand the game.

But i dont agree with your intrepretation of bolshevik revolution at all. I think you dont know the case of russians before bolshevik revolution. An average russian then was poorer than average indian under british india !!! Soviet made them superpower. they put the first man in space. gave so much to advance humanity. Yes many mistakes were made too but they took them in forward direction. withtou stalin there was no way they could have defeated the awesome evil of nazis. And do you know our plight if nazis won ?

Nazis vasthey emaiyyedhi they would have happily transformed into the capitalist mode of economy like that of China....their Aryan theory was a tool to create an opressive rule ...adhi kuda oka ideology but it is an extremist right ideology ...geopolitical Dynamics would have forced them to sober down of course after some bloody conflicts....

 

 

[Gnan_anna]

Ltt...for the sake of my dear brother who enticed me in another thread...

[Paidithalli]

[Gnan_anna]

38 minutes ago, Paidithalli said:

Nakokkati artham aindhi bro...ikkada cbn ki support chesevallu Mari intolerant ga unnaru and jagan ki support chesevallu kuda alaney unnaru but better...manam logical ga proofs tho matlidithey they won't curse you...heck even bjp ki support chesevallu kuda tolerant ga ne unnaru...ee amaravathi batch ki mathram assalu thattukolekapothunnaru...direct ga personal attacks chesthunnaru...I didn't see the guy who strongly supports bjp in this forum...never attacking personally at the drop of the hat....even ycp supporters too baganey unnaru....sarcastic ga undadam kuda thappainattu...entitled ga feel avuthunnaru amaravathi batch...vammo...

[crashnburn]

11 minutes ago, Gnan_anna said:

Nakokkati artham aindhi bro...ikkada cbn ki support chesevallu Mari intolerant ga unnaru and jagan ki support chesevallu kuda alaney unnaru but better...manam logical ga proofs tho matlidithey they won't curse you...heck even bjp ki support chesevallu kuda tolerant ga ne unnaru...ee amaravathi batch ki mathram assalu thattukolekapothunnaru...direct ga personal attacks chesthunnaru...I didn't see the guy who strongly supports bjp in this forum...never attacking personally at the drop of the hat....even ycp supporters too baganey unnaru....sarcastic ga undadam kuda thappainattu...entitled ga feel avuthunnaru amaravathi batch...vammo...

edsav le. andaru okatey ee db lo. all of them are assholes.

BJP supporters decent ga maatladthara? haha.. you've not seen them trolling me aa? all of them are butthurt losers, who've never been able to make a single coherent logical argument. they are disgusting scum of the worst kind in this db. migatha caste based supporter groups (reddy, kamma, even brahmin) are way better than those idiots.

btw, naxal movement gurinchi thega raasaav, but nee conclusion that leftism is the same as right movements is dishonest, and a half truth. Nazis are bound to get destroyed. vallu win ayte aney question aey ledhu brotheru. 

Hindutva has not yet reached nazi levels. when it does, every hindu will be made to feel ashamed of being one for the next 100yrs. adhi raakunda chooskondi.

[crashnburn]

On 9/15/2019 at 10:02 PM, Gnan_anna said:

Nazis vasthey emaiyyedhi they would have happily transformed into the capitalist mode of economy like that of China

nazis were already capitalist. lol. why did you think they had to expand? china will face the choice, world will turn against them.

India is a loser, and it knows that its one, so it just flexes its muscles on its own people, and is a paper tiger abroad.