Andhra Politics Future Yenti?

[soodhilodaaram]

13 hours ago, prasadr said:

Recently had a frank discussion with few people regarding Andhra Politics,

Lot of interesting observations, wanted to share with you.

 

Some basic facts ->

1. Caste rules in Andhra.

2. Muslims + Christians are firmly in Jagan's corner.

3. Brahmins are completely devoid of political power.

These are the 3 facts we agreed up on, the third one regarding Brahmins was a surprise but we went to 2014 elections & under TDP + Alliance, not a single Brahmin was in play. Hard to believe but that was a fact.

 

Jagan firmly has Reddy + Christian + Muslim votes firmly in his favor

Naidu has Kammas + Chowdharies in his favor

 

That leaves SC, ST, Kapus & BC.

 

in 2019 elections BC were one of the biggest factors in Jagan getting that landslide. Literally it was the BC that destroyed Naidu. Kapus vote splitting cost Naidu dear as well.

 

Some observations at this point ->

1. Base vote % of Jagan right now is much higher than base vote % of Naidu. This is due to ever increasing number of Christian converts cutting across caste lines. This number is going to increase multifold under Jagan in next 5 years. Meaning in 2024, Jagan would start off with even a bigger % guaranteed vote base than in 2019.

2. Naidu & TDP is a spent force. On his own, TDP is never making a come back in Andhra. 

3. Caste politics will not help any party win in Andhra against Jagan, since he has Caste + Religion working for him.

4. BJP is NOT projected to be a major force by 2024, no matter how much they shout.

5. BJP is also done with Naidu. May not be with TDP but BJP is never going to allow Naidu back into NDA.

 

What this means ->

Jagan is playing a very clever game.

He is overtly being supported by Christians and Muslims. These 2 groups are going to the rock for Jagan. TDP and BJP has no chance in hell in pulling these 2 groups to their side.

The religion consolidation has already happened in Andhra. No one wants to say it out aloud since it's not "nice" to point at the so called secular vote consolidation.

So, at this point, any opposition to Jagan at Caste level would NEVER WORK.

 

So, how does TDP come back ->

1. Hindu consolidation. Make peace with all castes, including Reddy's. There are literally thousands of Reddy's like me who would love to shaft Jagan but can't bear to look at the Bolli Naidu.

2. Make peace with BJP. I have lot of respect for TDP cadre but TDP cadre is completely inept at playing the game for Hindu consolidation. BJP can & they have in many states.

3. To make peace with BJP, Naidu must go. May be project his son (useless guy) or get some one else....but as long as Naidu is there, this will never happen. Heck, Modi did not even acknowledge birthday wishes from Naidu.

4. BJP needs to make peace with TDP as well. Amit Shah needs to climb down and understand the ground realities and start process of accepting overtures from TDP.

5. Identify core issues, like religious conversion, converted Christians enjoying SC/OBC benefits and Hindu temples being run or employing non-Hindus.

6. Last but not least, empower Brahmins. May not seem much but they are like 8-10% of AP and that would increase base % of TDP or BJP by that much % immediately.

 

There literally is no calculation that brings TDP or BJP winning on their own.

 

Making peace and Hindu consolidation is the only way forward to win against the Christian + Muslim + Reddy dominance of Jagan.

perfect analysis

my take is along the same lines

BJP want TDP to die, but cadre should slowly move towards BJP

the more Jagan gets support from Christians/Muslims.. the more scope for Hindu consolidation.. this is the textbook case for BJP, BJP has mastered the art  of blossoming exactly in this kind of scenarios in the north, some idiots may thing this will not happen in telugu states.. my word for them.. conversions were not to such level 15yrs ago.. not their % is as high as 16% including fake hindus

people will be totally fed up with Jagan (Chrislamic) combination, BJP if it gets the TDP cadre will counter Jagan by 2024

CBN has lost his political face for good, no word from him is going to be trusted..BJP gets nothing allying with TDP party in general.. what BJP couldn't do dto gain ground in AP due to alliance with TDP was helped by TDP itself, BJP can only look forward from now

 

TDP = BC's+Kammas+Others in the past

2019 = BC's moved out due to too much Cops appeasement by CBN.. BJP is the master of garnering BC votes.. anyone who consolidates BC's will win power big time

[soodhilodaaram]

10 minutes ago, Justice_Chowdary said:

rei nee analysis madisi G lo pettuko.

Pedha kula gajji kukka laga unnav.

Stop crying and get a life you loser Ahole.

think analytically and see the contents there..reality doesn't change.. TDP is a spent force

he has spent time in presenting his views, you can either present them or simply disagree, try to be a rational person

[dasara_bullodu]

10 minutes ago, soodhilodaaram said:

perfect analysis

my take is along the same lines

BJP want TDP to die, but cadre should slowly move towards BJP

the more Jagan gets support from Christians/Muslims.. the more scope for Hindu consolidation.. this is the textbook case for BJP, BJP has mastered the art  of blossoming exactly in this kind of scenarios in the north, some idiots may thing this will not happen in telugu states.. my word for them.. conversions were not to such level 15yrs ago.. not their % is as high as 16% including fake hindus

people will be totally fed up with Jagan (Chrislamic) combination, BJP if it gets the TDP cadre will counter Jagan by 2024

CBN has lost his political face for good, no word from him is going to be trusted..BJP gets nothing allying with TDP party in general.. what BJP couldn't do dto gain ground in AP due to alliance with TDP was helped by TDP itself, BJP can only look forward from now

 

TDP = BC's+Kammas+Others in the past

2019 = BC's moved out due to too much Cops appeasement by CBN.. BJP is the master of garnering BC votes.. anyone who consolidates BC's will win power big time

TDP merging with BJP is impossible

The core belief of TDP cadre is that BJP has become commercial and they don't care about social issues anymore and there is a lot of truth behind it... based on Modi's way of politics

It there is any valid merger it will be JSP with TDP and JSP getting most of the top seats in TDP

[boeing747]

14 hours ago, prasadr said:

Recently had a frank discussion with few people regarding Andhra Politics,

Lot of interesting observations, wanted to share with you.

 

Some basic facts ->

1. Caste rules in Andhra.

2. Muslims + Christians are firmly in Jagan's corner.

3. Brahmins are completely devoid of political power.

These are the 3 facts we agreed up on, the third one regarding Brahmins was a surprise but we went to 2014 elections & under TDP + Alliance, not a single Brahmin was in play. Hard to believe but that was a fact.

 

Jagan firmly has Reddy + Christian + Muslim votes firmly in his favor

Naidu has Kammas + Chowdharies in his favor

 

That leaves SC, ST, Kapus & BC.

 

in 2019 elections BC were one of the biggest factors in Jagan getting that landslide. Literally it was the BC that destroyed Naidu. Kapus vote splitting cost Naidu dear as well.

 

Some observations at this point ->

1. Base vote % of Jagan right now is much higher than base vote % of Naidu. This is due to ever increasing number of Christian converts cutting across caste lines. This number is going to increase multifold under Jagan in next 5 years. Meaning in 2024, Jagan would start off with even a bigger % guaranteed vote base than in 2019.

2. Naidu & TDP is a spent force. On his own, TDP is never making a come back in Andhra. 

3. Caste politics will not help any party win in Andhra against Jagan, since he has Caste + Religion working for him.

4. BJP is NOT projected to be a major force by 2024, no matter how much they shout.

5. BJP is also done with Naidu. May not be with TDP but BJP is never going to allow Naidu back into NDA.

 

What this means ->

Jagan is playing a very clever game.

He is overtly being supported by Christians and Muslims. These 2 groups are going to the rock for Jagan. TDP and BJP has no chance in hell in pulling these 2 groups to their side.

The religion consolidation has already happened in Andhra. No one wants to say it out aloud since it's not "nice" to point at the so called secular vote consolidation.

So, at this point, any opposition to Jagan at Caste level would NEVER WORK.

 

So, how does TDP come back ->

1. Hindu consolidation. Make peace with all castes, including Reddy's. There are literally thousands of Reddy's like me who would love to shaft Jagan but can't bear to look at the Bolli Naidu.

2. Make peace with BJP. I have lot of respect for TDP cadre but TDP cadre is completely inept at playing the game for Hindu consolidation. BJP can & they have in many states.

3. To make peace with BJP, Naidu must go. May be project his son (useless guy) or get some one else....but as long as Naidu is there, this will never happen. Heck, Modi did not even acknowledge birthday wishes from Naidu.

4. BJP needs to make peace with TDP as well. Amit Shah needs to climb down and understand the ground realities and start process of accepting overtures from TDP.

5. Identify core issues, like religious conversion, converted Christians enjoying SC/OBC benefits and Hindu temples being run or employing non-Hindus.

6. Last but not least, empower Brahmins. May not seem much but they are like 8-10% of AP and that would increase base % of TDP or BJP by that much % immediately.

 

There literally is no calculation that brings TDP or BJP winning on their own.

 

Making peace and Hindu consolidation is the only way forward to win against the Christian + Muslim + Reddy dominance of Jagan.

next 30yrs Jagganna will be CM ani jaffas saying man

[jeessy_bb]

5 minutes ago, boeing747 said:

next 30yrs Jagganna will be CM ani jaffas saying man

Ika aapu maan ni cover drives. Direct ga A1 gaadiki support cheyyalevu so ee cover drive posts.  Nuvvu aa @futureofandhra laa kaavalane musugu Tdp fan la post chesthu CBN ki against ga antis post vesela chesthunnavu. Chaala rojula nunchi observe chesthunna. 

[boeing747]

3 minutes ago, jeessy_bb said:

Ika aapu maan ni cover drives. Direct ga A1 gaadiki support cheyyalevu so ee cover drive posts.  Nuvvu aa @futureofandhra laa kaavalane musugu Tdp fan la post chesthu CBN ki against ga antis post vesela chesthunnavu. Chaala rojula nunchi observe chesthunna. 

cbn ante nachanollu anti ga ne posts eskuntaru le man. let them

[jeessy_bb]

2 minutes ago, boeing747 said:

cbn ante nachanollu anti ga ne posts eskuntaru le man. let them

Chaala ekkuvaipoyindhi CBN medha yedupu ee DB lo. Annitiki CBN ni laaguthaaru. 

[Jambhalheart]

may be points are true but at the moment AP lo chala places lo constructions (big & medium ventures) aagipoyaayi for various reasons like expensive sand costs, no clarity on capital so big ventures or labour working in those ventures r having no work , 

sand tractor around Rs 4000 plus vutondhi so automatic ga builder gaadu flat rate penchuthaadu ( ee bharam janam medha paduthundhi final ga ) plus antha easy ga sand dorakadam ledu kooda,

 

ee trend (like daily labour not having work, expensive sand costs, ventures stopping work, no clarity on capital lantivi) konasaagithey (most jagan avvanivvadu anukuntaa) YCP will sure face defeat in 2024

[dasara_bullodu]

6 minutes ago, Jambhalheart said:

may be points are true but at the moment AP lo chala places lo constructions (big & medium ventures) aagipoyaayi for various reasons like expensive sand costs, no clarity on capital so big ventures or labour working in those ventures r having no work , 

sand tractor around Rs 4000 plus vutondhi so automatic ga builder gaadu flat rate penchuthaadu ( ee bharam janam medha paduthundhi final ga ) plus antha easy ga sand dorakadam ledu kooda,

 

ee trend (like daily labour not having work, expensive sand costs, ventures stopping work, no clarity on capital lantivi) konasaagithey (most jagan avvanivvadu anukuntaa) YCP will sure face defeat in 2024

constructions agipothe builders ki bokka gani common man ki enduku bokka ? endo meeru

[sepoy]

16 hours ago, prasadr said:

Recently had a frank discussion with few people regarding Andhra Politics,

Lot of interesting observations, wanted to share with you.

 

Some basic facts ->

1. Caste rules in Andhra.

2. Muslims + Christians are firmly in Jagan's corner.

3. Brahmins are completely devoid of political power.

These are the 3 facts we agreed up on, the third one regarding Brahmins was a surprise but we went to 2014 elections & under TDP + Alliance, not a single Brahmin was in play. Hard to believe but that was a fact.

 

Jagan firmly has Reddy + Christian + Muslim votes firmly in his favor

Naidu has Kammas + Chowdharies in his favor

 

That leaves SC, ST, Kapus & BC.

 

in 2019 elections BC were one of the biggest factors in Jagan getting that landslide. Literally it was the BC that destroyed Naidu. Kapus vote splitting cost Naidu dear as well.

 

Some observations at this point ->

1. Base vote % of Jagan right now is much higher than base vote % of Naidu. This is due to ever increasing number of Christian converts cutting across caste lines. This number is going to increase multifold under Jagan in next 5 years. Meaning in 2024, Jagan would start off with even a bigger % guaranteed vote base than in 2019.

2. Naidu & TDP is a spent force. On his own, TDP is never making a come back in Andhra. 

3. Caste politics will not help any party win in Andhra against Jagan, since he has Caste + Religion working for him.

4. BJP is NOT projected to be a major force by 2024, no matter how much they shout.

5. BJP is also done with Naidu. May not be with TDP but BJP is never going to allow Naidu back into NDA.

 

What this means ->

Jagan is playing a very clever game.

He is overtly being supported by Christians and Muslims. These 2 groups are going to the rock for Jagan. TDP and BJP has no chance in hell in pulling these 2 groups to their side.

The religion consolidation has already happened in Andhra. No one wants to say it out aloud since it's not "nice" to point at the so called secular vote consolidation.

So, at this point, any opposition to Jagan at Caste level would NEVER WORK.

 

So, how does TDP come back ->

1. Hindu consolidation. Make peace with all castes, including Reddy's. There are literally thousands of Reddy's like me who would love to shaft Jagan but can't bear to look at the Bolli Naidu.

2. Make peace with BJP. I have lot of respect for TDP cadre but TDP cadre is completely inept at playing the game for Hindu consolidation. BJP can & they have in many states.

3. To make peace with BJP, Naidu must go. May be project his son (useless guy) or get some one else....but as long as Naidu is there, this will never happen. Heck, Modi did not even acknowledge birthday wishes from Naidu.

4. BJP needs to make peace with TDP as well. Amit Shah needs to climb down and understand the ground realities and start process of accepting overtures from TDP.

5. Identify core issues, like religious conversion, converted Christians enjoying SC/OBC benefits and Hindu temples being run or employing non-Hindus.

6. Last but not least, empower Brahmins. May not seem much but they are like 8-10% of AP and that would increase base % of TDP or BJP by that much % immediately.

 

There literally is no calculation that brings TDP or BJP winning on their own.

 

Making peace and Hindu consolidation is the only way forward to win against the Christian + Muslim + Reddy dominance of Jagan.

2014 lo ilage vesaaru TDP gone case ani...2 months lo scenario change ayyindhi...2018 varuku YCP ke no chance....Prasanth kishore+KCR+Modi Changed the game for Jagan....TDP core votebank is still BC....2009 lo ysr single ga velli 36% voteshare techukunaadu....2019 lo CBN single ya velli 40% techukunaadu....Ippudu elections pedethe YCP ke 40 seats vasthe ekkuva...

 

 

 

 

[Migilindi23]

1 hour ago, sepoy said:

2014 lo ilage vesaaru TDP gone case ani...2 months lo scenario change ayyindhi...2018 varuku YCP ke no chance....Prasanth kishore+KCR+Modi Changed the game for Jagan....TDP core votebank is still BC....2009 lo ysr single ga velli 36% voteshare techukunaadu....2019 lo CBN single ya velli 40% techukunaadu....Ippudu elections pedethe YCP ke 40 seats vasthe ekkuva...

 

 

 

 

Correst..forwarding the news to bhoothu kitti

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, sepoy said:

2014 lo ilage vesaaru TDP gone case ani...2 months lo scenario change ayyindhi...2018 varuku YCP ke no chance....Prasanth kishore+KCR+Modi Changed the game for Jagan....TDP core votebank is still BC....2009 lo ysr single ga velli 36% voteshare techukunaadu....2019 lo CBN single ya velli 40% techukunaadu....Ippudu elections pedethe YCP ke 40 seats vasthe ekkuva...

Induke kaka, reality lo bratakali ani chepedi...lekapothey nijaniki chala dooranga vunte itle, iyala elections pedithe ycp ki 40 kuda raavu ane day dreams vastayi...

odipoi 110 days aitunna inka enduku odipoinamo ardam aitaledu, malla elections pedithe etta gelustaru vaya ?

[JambaKrantu]

1 hour ago, sepoy said:

2014 lo ilage vesaaru TDP gone case ani...2 months lo scenario change ayyindhi...2018 varuku YCP ke no chance....Prasanth kishore+KCR+Modi Changed the game for Jagan....TDP core votebank is still BC....2009 lo ysr single ga velli 36% voteshare techukunaadu....2019 lo CBN single ya velli 40% techukunaadu....Ippudu elections pedethe YCP ke 40 seats vasthe ekkuva...

 

 

 

 

Election aipoyei 6 months avutundi eedu inka dream machine digaledu

[AndhraneedSCS]

TDP + BJP + JenaSena ayithe workout avuddi.

 

Also have to see how it works out in TG (2023). If there is Change in power in TG, then it will be difficult for Jagan.

[PAWANFAN4]

What if BJP opens up Jagan anniyya cases and arrest him? or even worst, if they pull vijay sai into BJP like they did to sujana. Vijaysai will start firing on jagan daily in twitter