Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, crashnburn said: No. Chinese govt decisions are taken at the provincial level first. that's why they are relatively more competent. plus politics is not a big part of their life in China - not yet. but it's going to change when the economy slows down, and more people will start to question the govt. Has Indian govt created similar wealth that Chineese govt has created for its people? that's why Indian govt is a piece of sh1t. compared to ccp. India hasn't created a similar work environment as China because it cannot in a democracy. It has to cater to worker unions who refuse to work in environments like they have in Chinese manufacturing companies. It has to answer to opposition governments, has to win elections and be answerable to the Parliament. Who is China answerable to? NO ONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cation said: What about China? Why is China competent? Because no one is opposing the decisions taken by the Government? Because no one is questioning and asking for the country to be dissolved? you ask too many questions, without answring any. which country has a standing army of 100k in a region, and claims to be democratic? I can only think of israel. and the whole world spits on israel, which will probably be seriously threatened once US withdraws its support to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prasadr Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Article 370 -> 1. No rights for J&K woman, can't marry outside state, else they lose property rights, become non-resident of J&K. Even the existing property is taken away from her. When she dies, all her property would go to state. 2. Dalits not eligible for govt jobs, reservation, any sort of affirmative action. In fact, Dalits while allowed to vote for central elections, were not allowed to vote in state elections. Their children were not eligible for seats in Govt colleges and neither were they eligible for govt jobs. All Dalits in J&K were allowed to do only one thing for generations. be toilet cleaners and such menial professions. 3. Gorkhas who number around 100,000 in J&K have absolutely ZERO rights. No voting rights for either state or parliament elections. No eligibility for govt colleges or jobs. 4. Being homosexual is a crime. Yes, sir, as per Article 370, if you are Gay, you would be jailed in J&K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, crashnburn said: define what is a country then. bunch of rando assholes with too much of time in their hands don't make a country. morals are probably relative. If that is the case, should I start celebrating the death of army people in Kashmir because from the perspective of the kashmiris, they deserved it? Any decision a country takes is never morally right because someone or the other is bound is oppose it. It's a country of billion people who have billion opinions. Who is right and who is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, Cation said: India hasn't created a similar work environment as China because it cannot in a democracy. It has to cater to worker unions who refuse to work in environments like they have in Chinese manufacturing companies. It has to answer to opposition governments, has to win elections and be answerable to the Parliament. Who is China answerable to? NO ONE. wtf. you go on and on about democracy. are there no democracies which are rich? if you are bothered about the size of India, then fcuking split it. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, Cation said: Any decision a country takes is never morally right because someone or the other is bound is oppose it. It's a country of billion people who have billion opinions. Who is right and who is wrong? you claimed that a majority of country supports it (which is a bullshit claim ofcourse), but assuming it to be true, I asked if the collective Indian headspace can't justify this action on moral grounds, what exactly is the purpose of this Indian union. forget what Indian state did. if Indian people are okay with enforcing curfew on 10 million people, for 2 months, what does that say about the indian people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, crashnburn said: you ask too many questions, without answring any. which country has a standing army of 100k in a region, and claims to be democratic? I can only think of israel. and the whole world spits on israel, which will probably be seriously threatened once US withdraws its support to it. If that's what it takes to make sure no one dies, that's what it takes man. Like I said, it can't please everyone. At least its not taking 10K people and bombing places like the US is doing in Syria and Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, crashnburn said: wtf. you go on and on about democracy. are there no democracies which are rich? if you are bothered about the size of India, then fcuking split it. lol. So rich democracies don't take part in lobbying? NO. What's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cation said: Any decision a country takes is never morally right because someone or the other is bound is oppose it. It's a country of billion people who have billion opinions. Who is right and who is wrong? you are simply claiming that India is doing what it does because it can. don't beat around the bush. I'm claiming that Indians are pieces of worthless murderous trash that don't deserve any respect. end of conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, crashnburn said: you claimed that a majority of country supports it (which is a bullshit claim ofcourse), but assuming it to be true, I asked if the collective Indian headspace can't justify this action on moral grounds, what exactly is the purpose of this Indian union. forget what Indian state did. if Indian people are okay with enforcing curfew on 10 million people, for 2 months, what does that say about the indian people? (1 billion - 10 million) not really good at math, but this is how a democracy works. How else can a country of one billion run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, crashnburn said: you are simply claiming that India is doing what it does because it can. don't beat around the bush. I'm claiming that Indians are pieces of worthless murderous trash that don't deserve any respect. end of conversation. Sure, India doesn't function on the respect you give it. Infact what your opinion is to India is as big as a fart in the middle of a tornado. So, it doesn't matter what you think. The only time your voice matters is when you vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, crashnburn said: you ask too many questions, without answring any. which country has a standing army of 100k in a region, and claims to be democratic? I can only think of israel. and the whole world spits on israel, which will probably be seriously threatened once US withdraws its support to it. Yeah keep dreaming. It is not jut the US that supports it, many other countries do. They just aren’t blatant like the US. You live in an alternate universe. Your Chinese handler probably lives in one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cation said: (1 billion - 10 million) not really good at math, but this is how a democracy works. How else can a country of one billion run? dude. what is the pressing need to enforce curfew on J&K? what essential services were delayed for the 1 billion because of that 10 million? Indian govt has made a mess of its economy, and you are here arguing about how they have a handle on this one, and it'll turn out well. if they can't get their economy up and running (at a time when nationalism is on a high, and people are extremely motivated to work), they can't do anything else. J&K is a distraction from the failures of this govt. you are defending it like you have some point. at the core of your argument is the entitlement that Indian govt can do what it wants in any part of the country. you are sick fcuk. wearing mask of a reasonable human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cation said: Sure, India doesn't function on the respect you give it. Infact what your opinion is to India is as big as a fart in the middle of a tornado. So, it doesn't matter what you think. The only time your voice matters is when you vote. vote is a joke. 1 vote doesn't cover a million issues an avg citizen wants to make his voice heard. democracy is rule by proxxy of the feudals. atleast it is that way in india. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: Yeah keep dreaming. It is not jut the US that supports it, many other countries do. They just aren’t blatant like the US. You live in an alternate universe. Your Chinese handler probably lives in one too. yeh, US and Europe. and then? lol. Israel is another stupid nation, just like the stupid nation of india. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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