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  1. The whole application process: GRE, IELTS coaching+GRE exam fee+IELTS exam fee+Each University application fee+ courier costs+Scores reporting fee for IELTS + Visa interview fee + Flight costs + shopping adds up to 2–3 lakhs INR. — This process takes almost one year of your life.
  2. During MS in the US, how difficult it is to learn to cook, clean the house, clean toilet, mop the floor, wipe countertops while living with 6–10 roommates in a 2 BHK apartment. All this has to be done while attending classes, working at part-time jobs at off campus for 5–7 $ per hours and be extremely lucky to get an on-campus job.
  3. The roommates would have friends coming over, would play music on speaker, would talk on phones when you are sleeping or trying to finish an assignment, or studying for a test. You will never get privacy or peace while living in a shared apartment.
  4. The car is needed for everything in the US, so to get groceries from Walmart or Indian grocery store. You will need a car, uber costs almost 6–8 $ for 2–3 miles. However, owning a car is expensive as car insurance costs 150–250$ a month and gar (petrol) would cost at least 100–200$ a month. —It is impossible to own a car with just one on-campus job and manage your expenses. You would need to be working off-campus for 12–16 hours to afford it.
  5. The assistantship jobs such as Teaching Assistant/Research Assistant are highly competitive as all the qualified international students like you or better than you from around the world would be fighting for them as they would give you in-state tuition fee waiver, which will decrease your tuition fee by 40% and it pays 15$ per hour. —There are hardly 1–2 position of TA or RA under each professor depending upon the size of the class.
  6. There will be many days when you have no energy to cook food, you will eat Maggi or just eat rice with a pickle or sleep with hunger. Sleeping with hunger is common
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  1. To get a job after graduation, you need to learn all the tools on your own that the market is demanding as the college skills or courses won’t be up to the market demand. — This means whatever free time you have you end up learning new technologies, so you can get a job to pay back the education loan with 11–14% interest rate.
  2. Your relatives will not help you in any way, they will say we will take care of him/her to your parents. But, they have their own work life, careers, visa problems, kids, family issues etc. You are better off on your own. Don’t choose universities near relatives, they will keep bugging you to visit them. You are in the US to study and improve your skills, not to be a nanny/babysitter for their kids.
  3. After 2014, the visa rules changed a lot, the green card backlog is 150 years currently for Indians. If you have plans of settling here after Masters, getting an H1b, google about it. It is not worth it giving a country your best years away while being away from your family.

If we put the same effort and hard work in India, we all could have made India better and developed.

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There are no festivals in India being celebrated here, you will watch everything on Instagram and Facebook. You will miss your cousins and friends weddings, baby showers, they having kids etc. You talk to your parents every few days a week and you see them growing old. You see them missing you for every festival, you will miss your sibling for every rakhi. You feel like a robot living here just to make money. The cost of round trip tickets is 1000–1200$ for one person. You will miss your parents, family, cousins, festivals every *** day.

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The master's degree costs around 25–50 Lakhs INReasily if you couldn’t get scholarships or assistantship. —It would take you 2–3 years of OPT to pay back the loan. So your Masters' experience costs you 4–5 years of your productive years.You can’t pay the complete fees of your university easily.

Many of my friends worked daily 2 part-time off-campus jobs day-time in a gas station and night in a motel for 16–18 hours a day to pay the whole fees themselves. —They got sick and couldn’t do their assignments/projects on time. They were always working.

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 In my opinion It is worth coming to US

1. Most people dont need a car during MS , unless they are bayata pani cheying.

2. Apart from TA/RA there are tons of jobs like lab assistant , tutor, grader jobs which we can get..pay may be 8, they give instate tution. I worked as lab assistant for 3 sems paying instate tution.

3. With proper financial discipline it takes 8-10 months to pay that 20 lakhs loan back.

4. Situvations are real tough here, but they only make you a tougher person !!

5. Patriotism !! .. Imagine working for Infosys/TCS in India (basically working for american clients) making 6 lpa..at at the age of 25-26..You cannot invest a single penny based on your salary..Now here you are making around 75k at the same age..and sending money to india for investing like buying land/real estate/ gold whatever. You are able to invest significantly more money in india by only working in vomerica. You dont have to be an vindian sainik to protect vindia..you can also be abroud and protect country from outside.. Gudachari dialogue.

Inka chala unnai but no time now..byee

My opinions..dont dobbudu me..

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29 minutes ago, AlaElaAlaEla said:
  1. The whole application process: GRE, IELTS coaching+GRE exam fee+IELTS exam fee+Each University application fee+ courier costs+Scores reporting fee for IELTS + Visa interview fee + Flight costs + shopping adds up to 2–3 lakhs INR. — This process takes almost one year of your life.
  2. During MS in the US, how difficult it is to learn to cook, clean the house, clean toilet, mop the floor, wipe countertops while living with 6–10 roommates in a 2 BHK apartment. All this has to be done while attending classes, working at part-time jobs at off campus for 5–7 $ per hours and be extremely lucky to get an on-campus job.
  3. The roommates would have friends coming over, would play music on speaker, would talk on phones when you are sleeping or trying to finish an assignment, or studying for a test. You will never get privacy or peace while living in a shared apartment.
  4. The car is needed for everything in the US, so to get groceries from Walmart or Indian grocery store. You will need a car, uber costs almost 6–8 $ for 2–3 miles. However, owning a car is expensive as car insurance costs 150–250$ a month and gar (petrol) would cost at least 100–200$ a month. —It is impossible to own a car with just one on-campus job and manage your expenses. You would need to be working off-campus for 12–16 hours to afford it.
  5. The assistantship jobs such as Teaching Assistant/Research Assistant are highly competitive as all the qualified international students like you or better than you from around the world would be fighting for them as they would give you in-state tuition fee waiver, which will decrease your tuition fee by 40% and it pays 15$ per hour. —There are hardly 1–2 position of TA or RA under each professor depending upon the size of the class.
  6. There will be many days when you have no energy to cook food, you will eat Maggi or just eat rice with a pickle or sleep with hunger. Sleeping with hunger is common

Ippudu poragallu ivanni chestunarankuntunava valla anna no akka no suttamo USA rangane day 1 cpt universities ki transfer chepinchesi yappy ga IT job chepistunaru. Okavela rakunna kuda student loans tho vastunaru and g valga ammailani mingukunta enjoy chestunaru. Those  MS kastal days are gone. Those kastal was sweet and memorable

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I think it is worth. 

 

Basically oka 3 years (2 years for masters, oka 9-12 months of job to pay off any debts)  lo you can be net 0 with a Masters degree and a job. 4th year nundi, you can make much more when compared to your friends who are in India.

 

I have many friends who came to US on H-1B directly and I think they will be in a better shape economically but Masters will teach you life lessons and develop your personality to face any situation ani na peeling 

 

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I think it's better to go EU, Aus or Can.

Settling is easy compared to US and you can spread your wings fast to fly high but if you want to be a slave sheep like most US is better.

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47 minutes ago, AlaElaAlaEla said:
  1. The whole application process: GRE, IELTS coaching+GRE exam fee+IELTS exam fee+Each University application fee+ courier costs+Scores reporting fee for IELTS + Visa interview fee + Flight costs + shopping adds up to 2–3 lakhs INR. — This process takes almost one year of your life.
  2. During MS in the US, how difficult it is to learn to cook, clean the house, clean toilet, mop the floor, wipe countertops while living with 6–10 roommates in a 2 BHK apartment. All this has to be done while attending classes, working at part-time jobs at off campus for 5–7 $ per hours and be extremely lucky to get an on-campus job.
  3. The roommates would have friends coming over, would play music on speaker, would talk on phones when you are sleeping or trying to finish an assignment, or studying for a test. You will never get privacy or peace while living in a shared apartment.
  4. The car is needed for everything in the US, so to get groceries from Walmart or Indian grocery store. You will need a car, uber costs almost 6–8 $ for 2–3 miles. However, owning a car is expensive as car insurance costs 150–250$ a month and gar (petrol) would cost at least 100–200$ a month. —It is impossible to own a car with just one on-campus job and manage your expenses. You would need to be working off-campus for 12–16 hours to afford it.
  5. The assistantship jobs such as Teaching Assistant/Research Assistant are highly competitive as all the qualified international students like you or better than you from around the world would be fighting for them as they would give you in-state tuition fee waiver, which will decrease your tuition fee by 40% and it pays 15$ per hour. —There are hardly 1–2 position of TA or RA under each professor depending upon the size of the class.
  6. There will be many days when you have no energy to cook food, you will eat Maggi or just eat rice with a pickle or sleep with hunger. Sleeping with hunger is common

if not for financial stakes alone, what about life experiences.. india lo unte 1 in 1000.. here at least 1 in 100

there are lot of people who worry about their past thinking future could have been better, fact is they can go back in future and fix this instead of worry about past thats already done anyway.. generalizing your experience for others is the worst one can do to themselves and others

 

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51 minutes ago, AlaElaAlaEla said:

 

  1. To get a job after graduation, you need to learn all the tools on your own that the market is demanding as the college skills or courses won’t be up to the market demand. — This means whatever free time you have you end up learning new technologies, so you can get a job to pay back the education loan with 11–14% interest rate.
  2. Your relatives will not help you in any way, they will say we will take care of him/her to your parents. But, they have their own work life, careers, visa problems, kids, family issues etc. You are better off on your own. Don’t choose universities near relatives, they will keep bugging you to visit them. You are in the US to study and improve your skills, not to be a nanny/babysitter for their kids.
  3. After 2014, the visa rules changed a lot, the green card backlog is 150 years currently for Indians. If you have plans of settling here after Masters, getting an H1b, google about it. It is not worth it giving a country your best years away while being away from your family.

If we put the same effort and hard work in India, we all could have made India better and developed.

100% if you are in IT.

Below is for all set of ppl (poor/avg/good)

USA - if you work hard there is 100% success rate you will get settled. 

India - Not even 25% success rate 

India - last couple of years may be 70% success rate in India 

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1 hour ago, AlaElaAlaEla said:

There are no festivals in India being celebrated here, you will watch everything on Instagram and Facebook. You will miss your cousins and friends weddings, baby showers, they having kids etc. You talk to your parents every few days a week and you see them growing old. You see them missing you for every festival, you will miss your sibling for every rakhi. You feel like a robot living here just to make money. The cost of round trip tickets is 1000–1200$ for one person. You will miss your parents, family, cousins, festivals every *** day.

If you live in CA, Tx, Nj, Fl, Atlanta- festivals are celebrated at same par.

friends - you will make here too.

family - none here so big minus 

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