Jammu & Kashmir end as a state and becomes two UTs.

[Pillipilla]

26 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

Seriously - kashmir is diverse but india is one. Dont blabber something just because you get to type. Whatever diversity is there in kashmir is thiers and they get to manage it and they get to split too if they want. Just because it is diverse dos not mean the sname india gets to manage it.

Lol, my point was Ladakh and Kashmir are not the same like he claimed just because they have a Muslim majority. By that logic all states in India are the same and don't have any diversity because they are Hindu majority. I am not blabbering, you, however are switching topics. 

[lovemystate]

3 minutes ago, Pillipilla said:

Lol, my point was Ladakh and Kashmir are not the same like he claimed just because they have a Muslim majority. By that logic all states in India are the same and don't have any diversity because they are Hindu majority. I am not blabbering, you, however are switching topics. 

Nothing is the same every family is idfferent so is individual. However ladakh is part of jammu and kashmir and its integrity must be protected. You are making too clever by half points. And you know that. 

[Pillipilla]

1 minute ago, lovemystate said:

Nothing is the same every family is idfferent so is individual. However ladakh is part of jammu and kashmir and its integrity must be protected. You are making too clever by half points. And you know that. 

Ladakh has been a part of Jammu and Kashmir but they had their own cultural identity. They did not get any reforms in Ladakh because all the money from the central government for the state went to Kashmir and Jammu instead of Ladakh. So no wonder the people of Ladakh wanted a union territory. 

[lovemystate]

2 minutes ago, Pillipilla said:

Ladakh has been a part of Jammu and Kashmir but they had their own cultural identity. They did not get any reforms in Ladakh because all the money from the central government for the state went to Kashmir and Jammu instead of Ladakh. So no wonder the people of Ladakh wanted a union territory. 

Look you annoying person I had enough blabber from you. If ladakhi  wants freedom they can negotiate with kashmiri muslims not venal Delhi. Because Delhi interferes and offers to play one against other some ladakis may get tempted. But if delhi fu$cks off they will make peace double quick.

[Pillipilla]

1 minute ago, lovemystate said:

Look you annoying person I had enough blabber from you. If ladakhi  wants freedom they can negotiate with kashmiri muslims not venal Delhi. Because Delhi interferes and offers to play one against other some ladakis may get tempted. But if delhi fu$cks off they will make peace double quick.

Why would Ladakhis want freedom from Kashmir, when they strongly believe that they are a part of India? And who can give them the status of a Union territory? Definitely not Kashmir, but India. And that's what happened. 

[lovemystate]

5 minutes ago, Pillipilla said:

Why would Ladakhis want freedom from Kashmir, when they strongly believe that they are a part of India? And who can give them the status of a Union territory? Definitely not Kashmir, but India. And that's what happened. 

Oh right Ladakis feel  STRONGLY  they are indian because they look just like the vast majority of indians right ? you cant spot them if they walk in delhi..no? then it must be language they speak hindi ..again no? must be the religion with all the wonderful castes and dog marriages etc ..again no? you claim to be a phd student but make posts like a retard on narcotics. Use your brain. 

[Pillipilla]

6 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

Oh right Ladakis feel  STRONGLY  they are indian because they look just like the vast majority of indians right ? you cant spot them if they walk in delhi..no? then it must be language they speak hindi ..again no? must be the religion with all the wonderful castes and dog marriages etc ..again no? you claim to be a phd student but make posts like a retard on narcotics. Use your brain. 

 

[Pillipilla]

10 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

Oh right Ladakis feel  STRONGLY  they are indian because they look just like the vast majority of indians right ? you cant spot them if they walk in delhi..no? then it must be language they speak hindi ..again no? must be the religion with all the wonderful castes and dog marriages etc ..again no? you claim to be a phd student but make posts like a retard on narcotics. Use your brain. 

Ladakhis feel more Indian than they feel Kashmiri. Why would they want to get freedom from Kashmir? Can Kashmir give them the status of Union territory? No.  What's your point? I never claimed I have a PhD, any degree is just a piece of paper than anything else. If you want to get personal, try harder. 

[lovemystate]

9 minutes ago, Pillipilla said:

 

Again use your brain. He is a MP enjoying salary from indian parliament and belongs to BJP - what would you expect him to speak. I already inferred on this when  I said  Delhi interference means there is no incenctive for ladakis to sit with kashmiris and resolve issues. It is just like AP division if telangana leaders were to sort out their differences by talking to their andhra counterparts they would have solved the issues in a jiffy. But with Delhi having the power of article 3 there is no incentive for a LANGA badakav like KCR to talk to his own andhra brethren and he knew it. 

 

[prasadr]

5 hours ago, pahelwan said:

Malli congiress vallu vaste marche chance untada?

 

Nope.

I don't see Cong + getting majority in LS and RS anytime soon.

 

[prasadr]

9 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

Again use your brain. He is a MP enjoying salary from indian parliament and belongs to BJP - what would you expect him to speak. I already inferred on this when  I said  Delhi interference means there is no incenctive for ladakis to sit with kashmiris and resolve issues. It is just like AP division if telangana leaders were to sort out their differences by talking to their andhra counterparts they would have solved the issues in a jiffy. But with Delhi having the power of article 3 there is no incentive for a LANGA badakav like KCR to talk to his own andhra brethren and he knew it. 

 

 

Use your brain for once,

He is an MP "ELECTED" by people.

 

If Ladakh people are electing a BJP MP who openly supports his views - it means people support him as well.

That's basically reflection of representative democracy.

 

Get off what ever the drugs you are on.

 

Even in Jammu part of J&K, it's all BJP support. They love this move.

[lovemystate]

Just now, prasadr said:

 

Use your brain for once,

He is an MP "ELECTED" by people.

 

If Ladakh people are electing a BJP MP who openly supports his views - it means people support him as well.

That's basically reflection of representative democracy.

 

Get off what ever the drugs you are on.

 

Even in Jammu part of J&K, it's all BJP support. They love this move.

I already said why ladakis have no incentive to talk to kashmiris. how can a tiny population take risk of ignoring a venal state which put 800000 soldiers on ground. Oh but you are a sanghi wannabe - you own RSS when RSS will never own a southie like you as its own. Brainless turd.

[prasadr]

There are multiple impressive moves done by BJP.

 

All of us who were supporting BJP were ONLY thinking of removing 370 & 35A.

What BJP did was beyond our wildest expectations. 

In fact many of BJP supporters were/are stunned at the audacity of what BJP achieved.

 

If you think BJP removing 370 & 35A was the biggest achievement here, you are completely wrong.

It's what they did with Bifurcation that was impressive

BUT the announcement of turning J&K as well as Ladakh into UT that was the stunner.

 

Just removing 370 & 35A would have meant the existing political structure would remain,

It would mean the current political parties and their chamchas having full control on the administrative powers of the state.

It was these administrative powers that have been misused by the valley politicians and terrorists, who are in cahoots with each other.

 

Turning J&K into UT means the whole gravy train has come to a stand-still.

these valley politicians are completely out of job and out of the power structure.

While 370 & 35A hurt them symbolically, the making of UT is a literal chopping of their balls.

They have lost their power, with no hopes of getting it back.

[DummyVariable]

1 hour ago, lovemystate said:

Oh right Ladakis feel  STRONGLY  they are indian because they look just like the vast majority of indians right ? you cant spot them if they walk in delhi..no? then it must be language they speak hindi ..again no? must be the religion with all the wonderful castes and dog marriages etc ..again no? you claim to be a phd student but make posts like a retard on narcotics. Use your brain. 

Are you taking the piss here mate? You are really insulting people of Sino-Indian/ Himalayan and trans Himalayan descent here. What you have just said is racist.. indians doesn’t mean that they are all of ANI and ASI descent. Not everyone has aryan heritage. They are as much Indian as you are. Some of them are also devout Hindus. Just because you don’t know about them doesn’t mean that they don’t share anything with us. Even if they don’t share anything with us, they are equally Indian. You preaching about racism takes the mickey. 

[lovemystate]

1 minute ago, DummyVariable said:

Are you taking the piss here mate? You are really insulting people of Sino-Indian/ Himalayan and trans Himalayan descent here. What you have just said is racist.. indians doesn’t mean that they are all of ANI and ASI descent. Not everyone has aryan heritage. They are as much Indian as you are. Some of them are also devout Hindus. Just because you don’t know about them doesn’t mean that they don’t share anything with us. Even if they don’t share anything with us, they are equally Indian. You preaching about racism takes the mickey. 

No piss here "mate".  And nice try flipping it to typical delhi style racism against asian appearing indians. A nation is generally shared something - a language, a religion, a custom. There is nothing that is common between a ladaki and rest of indians. They are indian on paper alone due to an accident of history and nothing more. But backstabbing kashmiris in the name of patronizing these people is the standard fork tongued behaviour of your delhi which you so seek to worship.