POK issue enti, adi resolve aithe deshaniki em labham?

[Sachin200]

@prasadr nee kada info Baga vuntundhi ga , andhuke asking 

[prasadr]

@DummyVariable 

I am extremely perplexed at you stating POK as Azad Kashmir. Why would you even call POK anything else?

regarding occupying POK, Gilgit & Baltistan - I agree, it is extremely ambitious, at least if we are looking at a sole military solution.

 

Fortunately we are NOT looking at a whole military solution & neither are our forces going to be placing infantry in all villages and towns in these areas.

 

What will happen is selective capture of strategic points across these regions.

Capture Muzzafarabad and whole supply chain to everything north basically stops. 

With Afghans pressing from above & Indians pressing from south and east, it will be very difficult for people in these areas to survive.

Wars are not won on who has more guns. It is won on who has the best supply chain.

Cut the supply chain from north and South, hold  very few and selective strategic positions and everything will grind to a halt. Of course this would be a protracted battle, but hey...we have been fighting this battle in Kashmir for 70 years. 

It's time we push this battle into POK and see how long Pakis can sustain it.

Battles are won or lost on a single fact- how well your supply chain is.

That is the reason China wants CPEC, to form different supply chain to Malacca straits.

Thats why Pakis blackmail US - because Pakistan form the route for USA supply chain into Afghanistan.

Our strategy would be occupy few key points to cut off this supply chain and just sit tight for few months or years - thats it.

 

@Sachin200

Afghanistan is a shitHole but it is a shithole you can't ignore.

Like I stated in my first post, main goal of POK to India is to destroy Paki-Chini nexus.

Second goal, through Afghanistan is when every side is stabilized and we want new supply routes to Central Asia.

The immediate goal for us is not a road to Afghanistan.

It is to deny Chinese a road into Pakistan.

[DummyVariable]

25 minutes ago, Sachin200 said:

@prasadr bjp endhuku control cheyatle Punjab lo drugs ?? Over the time what measures teesukunaru control cheyadaniki ?? 

Drugs ni control cheyadam evari tharam kaadu. Only moderate ga tolerate cheyadame.. Antha money involve ayinappudu kakkruththipade chinna officers chaala mandi

[prasadr]

Agreed about drugs,

too much profit to be made.

 

In fact there are  reports of how sections of BSF and Punjabi Police are heavily into this drug trade.

How do you beat that?

Unfortunately we do not have tough laws on drugs like some countries in SE Asia.

[Sachin200]

2 minutes ago, prasadr said:

Agreed about drugs,

too much profit to be made.

 

In fact there are  reports of how sections of BSF and Punjabi Police are heavily into this drug trade.

How do you beat that?

Unfortunately we do not have tough laws on drugs like some countries in SE Asia.

Bro my point , China - Pakistan relation disrupt chesina advantage Kanna there will be more downsides to our country. Akkada people ( radical valla) mindset change cheyadam.easy kadhu ..moreover conflict with thaaliban groups very challenging ( ee desaniki challege  then imagine ours)

 Drug market ( Mana asshole politicians enter ayittey antey ) developing nation's collapse ayipotaye . Manaki unna political faces batti we can assure how much ease tho business chestaru ( billionaire avali ante short span lo ) . India daggara antha economy ledhu , border ni deal cheyadam , turaka groups ni handle cheyadam , paina mention chesina vallani restrict cheyadam . 

[Sachin200]

12 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Drugs ni control cheyadam evari tharam kaadu. Only moderate ga telomerase cheyadame.. Antha money involve ayinappudu kakkruththipade chinna officers chaala mandi

Yeah agree 

@prasadr okkasari legalisation ane concept vastey ( ekkada laga states ki manchi income vastundhi Ani) antey . Countries like India conservative ga unte ney better , liberal avudham.withbstrict laws antey kastam 

[prasadr]

@Sachin200

What makes you think we will take the people along with the land? 

Do you know what people do near border areas when Artillary starts shelling?

They either run away or die.

 

Choke the supplies, use arty and Pinka and you will have wholesale migration from POK to down below.

 

Heck, we might even give an offer to make POK a separate country with Muzzafarabad as capital - in return for Gilgit & Baltistan minus the people.

 

Take your point though, the last thing we want is more Jihadi scum being part of our nation.

but then history of warfare has always shown the first people to pick their nickers and run are the once in line of fire - Same thing will happen in this area.

Just look at the displacement of people in Syria as an example.

[Sachin200]

2 minutes ago, prasadr said:

@Sachin200

What makes you think we will take the people along with the land? 

Do you know what people do near border areas when Artillary starts shelling?

They either run away or die.

 

Choke the supplies, use arty and Pinka and you will have wholesale migration from POK to down below.

 

Heck, we might even give an offer to make POK a separate country with Muzzafarabad as capital - in return for Gilgit & Baltistan minus the people.

 

Take your point though, the last thing we want is more Jihadi scum being part of our nation.

but then history of warfare has always shown the first people to pick their nickers and run are the once in line of fire - Same thing will happen in this area.

Just look at the displacement of people in Syria as an example.

People teeskovadam kadhu, border security will become a major issue . We need to invest ton loads of money for this security and intially to fight for POK 

It will not be an overnight thing or anytime soon . I am referring to the  consequences after regain of the pok. Then drugs everything will be bonus 

[Sachin200]

Chabahar Port, inaugurated in 2017, has been built largely by India and will provide a key supply route for Afghanistan while allowing India to bypass rival Pakistan to trade with Central Asia.

Most of Afghanistan's imports and exports currently go through Pakistan, which Kabul accuses of harboring the Afghan Taliban.

The U.S. State Department in November exempted the Chabahar Port project from its sanctions on Iran in recognition of its importance to war-torn Afghanistan.

Chabahar Port will provide a key supply route for Afghanistan

[prasadr]

@Sachin200

Border security is ALREADY a very costly affair for us.

Until 3 years back, we were just defending.

Until 6 years back, our military at border had to call South Block to fire an Arty Shell.

 

Point is, we are already spending shitloads of money on border security.

With new push on few strategic points, all we will be doing is pushing where we will defending. These new strategic points will also add as choke points and really make Pakis and Chinks suffer.

 

We will never have a scenario where we have over-whelming advantage over Pakistan.

FFS, these Pakis are weaker than us and still do not hesitate for a second to send terrorists to attack our parliament.

This thinking of being passive and afraid has changed under Modi for the better.

 

Now, instead of just taking it on the border, we are also giving it inside their territory. 

Too many things have happened on the border in last 6 months for this to be a coincidence, so, let me assure you that our steps for capturing key locations in POK is already in full flow.

[Sachin200]

2 minutes ago, prasadr said:

@Sachin200

Border security is ALREADY a very costly affair for us.

Until 3 years back, we were just defending.

Until 6 years back, our military at border had to call South Block to fire an Arty Shell.

 

Point is, we are already spending shitloads of money on border security.

With new push on few strategic points, all we will be doing is pushing where we will defending. These new strategic points will also add as choke points and really make Pakis and Chinks suffer.

 

We will never have a scenario where we have over-whelming advantage over Pakistan.

FFS, these Pakis are weaker than us and still do not hesitate for a second to send terrorists to attack our parliament.

This thinking of being passive and afraid has changed under Modi for the better.

 

Now, instead of just taking it on the border, we are also giving it inside their territory. 

Too many things have happened on the border in last 6 months for this to be a coincidence, so, let me assure you that our steps for capturing key locations in POK is already in full flow.

Pok capture chestey happy ney , new phase of things will start for India . Our nation law and order should never go out of control in the later stages Ani . ( Cartels gallu rakkodadhu) 

[prasadr]

Just now, Sachin200 said:

Pok capture chestey happy ney , new phase of things will start for India . Our nation law and order should never go out of control in the later stages Ani . ( Cartels gallu rakkodadhu) 

hmm, why are hellbent on capturing POK.

what we need is to capture strategic points and keep them.

[Sachin200]

13 minutes ago, prasadr said:

hmm, why are hellbent on capturing POK.

what we need is to capture strategic points and keep them.

Pok ni vadilestey risk antava??

[Sachin200]

Elago verge of collapse lo vunaru. Internationally antha support ledhu except chinkis . 

[prasadr]

36 minutes ago, Sachin200 said:

Pok ni vadilestey risk antava??

yes.

listen to Ajit Doval speeches

they are on YouTube.

 

gives an insight into current government strategies and plans.