pottipotato Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Amrita said: Haha .. this country is also complicated and hard to understand just like you Will read . I never heard of them . Thanks ! George Orwell is that British writer who wrote the popular anti authoritarian book 1984 which people thought critiqued fascism. and Animal Farm, which people thought critiqued communism. but he actually was a socialist, and joined the catalonian revolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrita Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, pottipotato said: George Orwell is that British writer who wrote the popular anti authoritarian book 1984 which people thought critiqued fascism. and Animal Farm, which people thought critiqued communism. but he actually was a socialist, and joined the catalonian revolution. I see ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Amrita said: Haha .. this country is also complicated and hard to understand just like you I'm just stumbling into some contradictory explanations of how the society would work. in reality, I don't have a clue. I just know that if people who live in the brink of war in Syria can do it, there's no reason that others can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, pottipotato said: I didn't force you to join the country. I don't wish to convince you to join it but my simple question was how will such a country even exist to begin with if every1(starting with you ) thinks and claims like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, batman2 said: but my simple question was how will such a country even exist to begin with if every1(starting with you ) thinks and claims like me. those who think like you won't come. simple. is it your claim that everyone thinks like you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Amrita said: I see ! The biggest problem with such a society is not that people will kill themselves. i have given you plenty of examples that show people wont kill themselves, and in fact be much more happy than in the current system. the problem is with the dynamism of such a system. capitalism was invented in 19th century, and it had 150yrs to master its understanding of human nature to create a system that took off after 1980s. until then, it was practised in parallel with monarchy, and feudalism, that depended on slaves to do the work. today it may seem as the natural law that governs human behaviour, but its not. especially if you are from areas that have been brutalized by the captalism.. eg. mining areas that took livelihoood of people living there, so they can make cheap smart phones for you, and they get nothing in return for the loss of livelihood , etc. how to create the kind of dynamism capitalism created for its adherents without destroying nature and uprooting people, is the problem that is worthy of solving.It cannot be solved under capitalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, pottipotato said: George Orwell is that British writer who wrote the popular anti authoritarian book 1984 which people thought critiqued fascism. and Animal Farm, which people thought critiqued communism. but he actually was a socialist, and joined the catalonian revolution. That book is the core idea for biggboss concept... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, pottipotato said: those who think like you won't come. simple. is it your claim that everyone thinks like you? dont know about every1 but you do (based on your earlier posts) so whoever envisaged this country himself wont go to that country?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, batman2 said: dont know about every1 but you do (based on your earlier posts) so whoever envisaged this country himself wont go to that country?? I think like you? nice, atleast you learnt to crack jokes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, pottipotato said: I think like you? nice, atleast you learnt to crack jokes . when i contested your "i know better" logic and how its self contradictory to the creation of your utopia country this is what you said ---> when you claim to know better why cant i make similar claim???? jokes apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, batman2 said: when i contested your "i know better" logic and how its self contradictory to the creation of your utopia country this is what you said ---> when you claim to know better why cant i make similar claim???? jokes apart dude. whatever.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrita Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, pottipotato said: I'm just stumbling into some contradictory explanations of how the society would work. in reality, I don't have a clue. I just know that if people who live in the brink of war in Syria can do it, there's no reason that others can't. Hmm . 10 minutes ago, pottipotato said: The biggest problem with such a society is not that people will kill themselves. i have given you plenty of examples that show people wont kill themselves, and in fact be much more happy than in the current system. the problem is with the dynamism of such a system. capitalism was invented in 19th century, and it had 150yrs to master its understanding of human nature to create a system that took off after 1980s. until then, it was practised in parallel with monarchy, and feudalism, that depended on slaves to do the work. today it may seem as the natural law that governs human behaviour, but its not. especially if you are from areas that have been brutalized by the captalism.. eg. mining areas that took livelihoood of people living there, so they can make cheap smart phones for you, and they get nothing in return for the loss of livelihood , etc. how to create the kind of dynamism capitalism created for its adherents without destroying nature and uprooting people, is the problem that is worthy of solving.It cannot be solved under capitalism. May be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, pottipotato said: dude. whatever.. is this the answer from a founding member of a country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, batman2 said: is this the answer from a founding member of a country? sure. we don't care to explain ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, pottipotato said: sure. we don't care to explain ourselves. there ends your country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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