chittimallu_14 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Meowalpha said: Like have you never heard of gender pay gap before? Never saw any statistics on gender pay gap? I have heard people blabbering about it before... but havent seen any solid evidence yet ... why cant you provide some evidence if you think that is true... lets see what were the parameters included in that research and what made some people think thats the case... You cant take salary of all the working men and all the working women and say "look women are being paid less".... you have to compare the exact same job worked by a man and a woman and then show me the stats that a woman is really being underpaid for the exact same work done as a man... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, chittimallu_14 said: I have heard people blabbering about it before... but havent seen any solid evidence yet ... why cant you provide some evidence if you think that is true... lets see what were the parameters included in that research and what made some people think thats the case... You cant take salary of all the working men and all the working women and say "look women are being paid less".... you have to compare the exact same job worked by a man and a woman and then show me the stats that a woman is really being underpaid for the exact same work done as a man... If gender pay gap is not real, why would you see those statistics. In fact the biggest pay gap that you see is in assistant professors (since I am familiar with this). Female assistant professors in general get paid 90% of what male professors make. What is worse is even if you go higher up in the ladder of tenure, you see lesser number of female associate professors and an even lesser proportion of female professors. But more importantly, the gender pay gap raises as you move up the ladder. Most full professors who make upwards of 300k are mostly men, and women full professors make much less when compared to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Meowalpha said: The shortage of women in leadership positions can be explained by gender stereotyping like the way you're doing right now. It is a question to begin with and it was seeking a plausible explanation and not a stereotype. Are you the kind of person who assigns an effect to only one cause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: It is a question to begin with and it was seeking a plausible explanation and not a stereotype. Are you the kind of person who assigns an effect to only one cause? You're the one that's stereotyping women as someone who give up their career for their *** family or whatever. Like, shouldn't a man ever do the same? Why is it a woman's responsibility? If men in leadership roles stereotype women like the way you're right now, no wonder women are not hired into leadership roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Meowalpha said: You're the one that's stereotyping women as someone who give up their career for their *** family or whatever. Like, shouldn't a man ever do the same? Why is it a woman's responsibility? Read the question again. There was no stereotype. It was only seeking out a plausible explanation. Only in your mind is that question turning into a stereotype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, DummyVariable said: Read the question again. There was no stereotype. It was only seeking out a plausible explanation. Only in your mind is that question turning into a stereotype. 22 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: What if the shortage can be explained by other reasons like “not willing to take up better positions because the mother fell in love with the kids and would rather be with her family than be in a position of leadership in a far away city”? Should women who avail reservations question the validity of reservations granted to minorities and lower castes when they themselves are beneficiaries of such similar schemes? What part of this is not stereotyping? Who told you that women do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: What if the shortage can be explained by other reasons like “not willing to take up better positions because the mother fell in love with the kids and would rather be with her family than be in a position of leadership in a far away city”? Should women who avail reservations question the validity of reservations granted to minorities and lower castes when they themselves are beneficiaries of such similar schemes? Besides, JEE doesn't have reservation for girls. I guess only the exams in the state have this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Meowalpha said: What part of this is not stereotyping? Who told you that women do that? Clearly the bold part below doesn’t make it stereotyping. 24 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: What if the shortage can be explained by other reasons like “not willing to take up better positions because the mother fell in love with the kids and would rather be with her family than be in a position of leadership in a far away city”? Should women who avail reservations question the validity of reservations granted to minorities and lower castes when they themselves are beneficiaries of such similar schemes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, DummyVariable said: Clearly the bold part below doesn’t make it stereotyping. No, because you're stereotyping women as someone that would care for their family more than their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Like I said men in leadership positions tend to stereotype women like the way you're and not hire them or assume that they are not efficient or smart or worthy of their job, just the way you're. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM_BHAYYA Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, ILOVEGIRLS said: Meku inka reservation kavala or teseyalla? WHy the hell you dont open mouth. Ma friend lambadies vunadu(Its just a caste I said it nothing wrong in it) , he got reservation as 1st rank despite he got 3000 rank and now making millions in UK, valla sister matram malli Eamcet lo reservation lo doctor. Jeevitham. Reservations are not just for economically upbringing .. social ga vaallani oka sthayi theeskuradaniki.. last year Kakinada lo oka SI ki evvadu room ivvaledhanta just because he is from SC/ST. Entha vaallu financial ga improve aithe em labham vaallani treat chese janala mind set maranantha varaki 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, TOM_BHAYYA said: Reservations are not just for economically upbringing .. social ga vaallani oka sthayi theeskuradaniki.. last year Kakinada lo oka SI ki evvadu room ivvaledhanta just because he is from SC/ST. Entha vaallu financial ga improve aithe em labham vaallani treat chese janala mind set maranantha varaki This is true, a lot of people don't give houses to rent to socially backward classes. Vallu financially enta improve ayina em labham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Meowalpha said: No, because you're stereotyping women as someone that would care for their family more than their job. It is a question and nothing more. Are you saying that “men don’t take risks in their career because they have to take care of their wife and children” is also stereotyping? There are many men who don’t take up risky opportunities only because they have a family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, Meowalpha said: Besides, JEE doesn't have reservation for girls. I guess only the exams in the state have this. JEE does have a separate list for females other than the general category. Why do they need that if they are just as smart as males? Coming to my original question, should women who take all the advantages like getting reserved seats in buses to being the first choice in colleges still complain about minority reservations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: It is a question and nothing more. Are you saying that “men don’t take risks in their career because they have to take care of their wife and children” is also stereotyping? There are many men who don’t take up risky opportunities only because they have a family. I am saying that the reason you don't see women in leadership roles is because women are stereotyped from their childhood. Like you're a girl, you should do this, or you're a woman, you shouldn't do this. That's why a lot of women don't see themselves in big positions, because they don't have enough drive to do the same. Also the lack of female role models, driven by gender stereotypes is another reason. Women or any socially backward class are equally capable as men or any forward class is, it's just that they don't realize it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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