pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Meowalpha said: That's because the companies don't pay as much taxes as fiscally liberal places. That's why they start businesses here. Trump was here last month talking with all these 'rich people'. They won't support him if they don't get tax breaks. okay. u win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Meowalpha said: They couldn't in Assam because there were these people that immigrated. If they can't prove that they're not here illegally, they won't be able to vote. So, ofcourse they need to find a way to include people. Are you saying that these 'poor people' don't have ration cards or adhar cards? If so how were they voting in the first place? If you're concerned about mistakes in the names that's when I am saying that the Government needs to figure something out. How long are you going to wait till everyone receives "proper education". How much ever time it takes.. No. Government will not find a way. The rules have already been defined. The citizenship act of 1955 mandates an nrc be conducted according to the rules and clauses defined in it. They are not going to change that. There are many people without documents in India. Heck in Assam alone there were people without any documents. Not everyone is like you. They don’t even know that they have to get documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Meowalpha said: I don't understand why you think there is wealth redistribution when the life of poor people in the Bay area is hell. They are better off in other states than here. because they are still alive. in other states tehy'd be dead. california has an insurance plan to take care of healthcare. also a lot of people on the streets are not from california, but have traveled to be there to take advantage of benefits, even if they have to live in a park, and sh1t on pavements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, DummyVariable said: How much ever time it takes.. No. Government will not find a way. The rules have already been defined. The citizenship act of 1955 mandates an nrc be conducted according to the rules and clauses defined in it. They are not going to change that. There are many people without documents in India. Heck in Assam alone there were people without any documents. Not everyone is like you. They don’t even know that they have to get documents. So people don't have adhar cards and voter ID cards and ration cards but still expect to take part in the elections and get free rations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Meowalpha said: So people don't have adhar cards and voter ID cards and ration cards but still expect to take part in the elections and get free rations? chaneling too much of Howard Roark/John Galt is actually amusing in the 21s century. hope you build your atlantis, but u really don't understand human nature, other than a sliver of it. may be that's enough to get by. I don't understand much too, but I make comments with a sense of helplessness, but you seem so sure about everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DummyVariable Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Meowalpha said: So people don't have adhar cards and voter ID cards and ration cards but still expect to take part in the elections and get free rations? Deviating the topic here.. read about nrc in Assam. They are going to implement it the same way in all the states. My guess is that the same problems will arise and may be new ones too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, pottipotato said: because they are still alive. in other states tehy'd be dead. california has an insurance plan to take care of healthcare. also a lot of people on the streets are not from california, but have traveled to be there to take advantage of benefits, even if they have to live in a park, and sh1t on pavements. This part is not true. The covered California act will not cover the whole tab of your medical bill, in fact it won't cover ever a quarter of your medical bill. California ain't Canada, people need to buy insurance. And a lot of homeless people move to California because the weather is much better to live on the streets. No, homeless people don't gets benefits. Not even close. They're kicked out mostly unless they find a shelter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, DummyVariable said: Deviating the topic here.. read about nrc in Assam. They are going to implement it the same way in all the states. My guess is that the same problems will arise and may be new ones too.. he doesn't care. he just doesn't want rations to go to the poor.. especially the refugee poor type. because people must earn what they are given, apparently or something lke that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, DummyVariable said: Deviating the topic here.. read about nrc in Assam. They are going to implement it the same way in all the states. My guess is that the same problems will arise and may be new ones too.. If you remove the people that are helped by CAB, the other problem that people are talking about is differences in their names. This one can be fixed by tweaking, no need to introduce a bill like CAB. Are you saying that "poor people" don't have voter ID card but were able to vote, didn't have Adhar or ration card but were able to get Government benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Meowalpha said: This part is not true. The covered California act will not cover the whole tab of your medical bill, in fact it won't cover ever a quarter of your medical bill. California ain't Canada, people need to buy insurance. And a lot of homeless people move to California because the weather is much better to live on the streets. No, homeless people don't gets benefits. Not even close. They're kicked out mostly unless they find a shelter. so yu are saying california taxes at top marginal rates in excess of 50% now, and it shouldn't be considered as a welfare state? what do you think they do with all that money? The budget of california is higher than the entire canada. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Meowalpha said: If you remove the people that are helped by CAB, the other problem that people are talking about is differences in their names. This one can be fixed by tweaking, no need to introduce a bill like CAB. Are you saying that "poor people" don't have voter ID card but were able to vote, didn't have Adhar or ration card but were able to get Government benefits? meowalpha what you are talking about - not giving stuff for free to the poor has been tried before, and things changed because it didn't work. what works is a mesh of export economy, benefits system, and a strong military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Meowalpha said: If you remove the people that are helped by CAB, the other problem that people are talking about is differences in their names. This one can be fixed by tweaking, no need to introduce a bill like CAB. Are you saying that "poor people" don't have voter ID card but were able to vote, didn't have Adhar or ration card but were able to get Government benefits? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Meowalpha said: If you remove the people that are helped by CAB, the other problem that people are talking about is differences in their names. This one can be fixed by tweaking, no need to introduce a bill like CAB. Are you saying that "poor people" don't have voter ID card but were able to vote, didn't have Adhar or ration card but were able to get Government benefits? economy is not a zero sum game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowalpha Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, pottipotato said: so yu are saying california taxes at top marginal rates in excess of 50% now, and it shouldn't be considered as a welfare state? what do you think they do with all that money? The budget of california is higher than the entire canada. lol. You can look up and tell how different the welfare in California is from the rest of the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_in_California California is an expensive state and there are a lot of rich people. A lot of wealth is invested in more people that work which is why startups boom. Not in free welfare like Canada does. If California invested in welfare like Canada does, it would be another Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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