Saudi style

[lovemystate]

2 minutes ago, Meowalpha said:

Do you see that more than the Shia (Iran) vs Shunni (Saudi) war, or is it a strategy by Saudi to contain the dominance of Iran rulers from the past? Shia rules used to rule most of the middle-east. Why is thee a Shunni dominance now? Merely because Saudi is supported by a capitalist Government (US) Vs Iran is supported by Russia? Whose fault is attacking Houtthi youth in Yemen?

Idont support their war on houthi. I am not saying saudis are saints or anything. They can be total scumbags. But they are smart and they are capable. they can atleast administer themsevles well - you cant say that about india - can you ?

[pamogudu]

20 minutes ago, Meowalpha said:

My friends from Iran disagree, they are manipulative by joining hands with the US Government using money ani. Also despite most heads from terrorist organizations coming from Saudi, there are bans on other muslim countries like Iran. Saudi additionally is also funding militant groups in Iran to destabilize Iran, not to mention their aid to groups that join forces in Syria. 

Iran bot spotted. Reported to @ARYA

[Meowalpha]

7 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

Idont support their war on houthi. I am not saying saudis are saints or anything. They can be total scumbags. But they are smart and they are capable. they can atleast administer themsevles well - you cant say that about india - can you ?

So you're saying Iran is not good at adminstration? Does it have nothing to do with existence of Sunni war against Shia domination from historic times? Does it have nothing to do with the capitalistic approach vs socialistic approach? Although the oil is owned by the Government, they operate on profits. 

[JaganChoudhary]

41 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

A great nation and a great people. Read history of Ibn Saud the father of modern saudi nation, the absolute monarch and patriach of saudi royal family. Many people dont know that saudi country is owned the house of saud. While saudi arabia itself is rich the wealth of house of saud is in trillions.

The way IBn saud united warring tribes of saudi arabia in to one nation is astouonding statesmanship. Second he ensured the natural resource blessing of petrol is converted in to prosperty of his people and not squandered as inter tribal warfare etc.

Great Nation yetla avuthundhi bro? Its a fcuked up nation with blood soaked history, before Mohammad, during Mohammad and after Mohammad and even today.

White House support lekapothe Saudi maroka Syria ayyi vundeedhi. They have the most valuable asset of the world but became puppets of USA, without White House support, its a tribal nation with barbarian culture.

How could you call these Saud family great? Did they build at least one good reasonable University? No need to be a Cambridge or Oxford or Stanford atleast a good Institute in their 1300 years after becoming Islamic Nation?

What all they spread was religious venom. They themselves do not practise Islam but sponsor Medrassas and Masjids in poor countries like B'desh and Porkistan so that they have millions of people who can come and donate money to Mecca once oil is exhausted.

[Meowalpha]

8 minutes ago, JaganChoudhary said:

Great Nation yetla avuthundhi bro? Its a fcuked up nation with blood soaked history, before Mohammad, during Mohammad and after Mohammad and even today.

White House support lekapothe Saudi maroka Syria ayyi vundeedhi. They have the most valuable asset of the world but became puppets of USA, without White House support, its a tribal nation with barbarian culture.

How could you call these Saud family great? Did they build at least one good reasonable University? No need to be a Cambridge or Oxford or Stanford atleast a good Institute in their 1300 years after becoming Islamic Nation?

What all they spread was religious venom. They themselves do not practise Islam but sponsor Medrassas and Masjids in poor countries like B'desh and Porkistan so that they have millions of people who can come and donate money to Mecca once oil is exhausted.

Yeah, Iran has done so much better at educating it's citizens, on par with a lot of Universities in the US. You see a lot of scholar from Tehran across the Globe. Saudi Arabia on the other hand has been looting wealth from the beginning of times, and creating unrest in the Middle East by funding militant groups. The US is backing them up for their geopolitical gains against Iran domination. I don't see why Saudi is a great Nation.

[Meowalpha]

52 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

Yes they have some problems...but one must recognize their successes too. It is an amazingly prosperous country in a tough neighbourhood. It could have gone the iran way (a total $hitshow of a country) or iraq way. But they had wisdom not to.

None of the reforms in Saudi are progressive. All that they did was to defy Shia domination from historic times by funding militant groups in the Middle East and create a political unrest in Yemen and Syria for their geopolitical domination backed by the US Government. They haven't done enough for to protect the minority Shia population but tried to establish Sunni domination in the Middle East. They are the reason why a lot of terrorist groups are getting funding and arms help. How can you say they're amazing when compared to Iran?

[Meowalpha]

For the past twenty years or so, the annual reports of the National Counterterrorism Center have attributed the vast majority of the Islamic terrorist attacks around the world since 2001 to “Sunni extremists”—jihadists inspired by the anti-imperialist Salafist theology of Saudi Arabia. ISIS and other fundamentalist militias fall under this category of Sunni extremism, often funded by wealthy Persian Gulf Arabs. They hate the heretical—as they see them—Shia Muslims of Iran almost as much as they hate the “Crusaders and Jews” of Washington and Tel Aviv. The fanatics behind the attacks of 9/11, Madrid, London, Paris, and San Bernardino were all Sunni extremists. None of the terrorists involved in those bloody attacks was Iranian.

[lovemystate]

50 minutes ago, JaganChoudhary said:

Great Nation yetla avuthundhi bro? Its a fcuked up nation with blood soaked history, before Mohammad, during Mohammad and after Mohammad and even today.

White House support lekapothe Saudi maroka Syria ayyi vundeedhi. They have the most valuable asset of the world but became puppets of USA, without White House support, its a tribal nation with barbarian culture.

How could you call these Saud family great? Did they build at least one good reasonable University? No need to be a Cambridge or Oxford or Stanford atleast a good Institute in their 1300 years after becoming Islamic Nation?

What all they spread was religious venom. They themselves do not practise Islam but sponsor Medrassas and Masjids in poor countries like B'desh and Porkistan so that they have millions of people who can come and donate money to Mecca once oil is exhausted.

why is white house supporting ? have you ever spent some time analyzing it - do you think white house supports incompetent blabbering bigots ?

The house of Saud built a great nation in a desert. There is not a single saudi that goes hungry - education is free and so is most medical care. And jobs are for asking as long as they put in minimum effort to train.

It enjoys first world standards of living - markets are full of great products and people are full of money to afford them.

They also follow their own calendar, their own dress, their own norms. They achieved all this while keeping respect to their traditions and elders.

[lovemystate]

38 minutes ago, Meowalpha said:

Yeah, Iran has done so much better at educating it's citizens, on par with a lot of Universities in the US. You see a lot of scholar from Tehran across the Globe. Saudi Arabia on the other hand has been looting wealth from the beginning of times, and creating unrest in the Middle East by funding militant groups. The US is backing them up for their geopolitical gains against Iran domination. I don't see why Saudi is a great Nation.

Iran has a pop of 82 million ...saudis are around 20 million (the nationals if you include imiigrants its about 34 million). Saudi arabia does have great universities and medical care but its a really small country with a small population. But they have the worlds largest company by market cap- heard of aramco ? they produce great plastics and petrochemicals. For a country of 20 million - less than Delhi pop - these are great achievements.

[Meowalpha]

16 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

why is white house supporting ? have you ever spent some time analyzing it - do you think white house supports incompetent blabbering bigots ?

The house of Saud built a great nation in a desert. There is not a single saudi that goes hungry - education is free and so is most medical care. And jobs are for asking as long as they put in minimum effort to train.

It enjoys first world standards of living - markets are full of great products and people are full of money to afford them.

They also follow their own calendar, their own dress, their own norms. They achieved all this while keeping respect to their traditions and elders.

Are you kidding me??? Saudi education system is doomed because of how much emphasis it lays on Islamic studies when compared to everything else unlike Iran. The educated people in Saudi are not employable because of the lack of skills in anything besides Islam. Because of how doomed the education is, they started KAUST recently, hiring foreign qualified individuals to perform high level research  there paying absurd salaries on the order of 400k even for mid level professors. Even with so many perks, people don't stay there because the quality of life is so horrible. I personally know a lot of people that returned from Saudi because they weren't able to stay teaching at KAUST despite making upwards of 300k salary. 

[Meowalpha]

13 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

Iran has a pop of 82 million ...saudis are around 20 million (the nationals if you include imiigrants its about 34 million). Saudi arabia does have great universities and medical care but its a really small country with a small population. But they have the worlds largest company by market cap- heard of aramco ? they produce great plastics and petrochemicals. For a country of 20 million - less than Delhi pop - these are great achievements.

What are the great achievements you're talking about??? Inciting violence against Shia Muslims? Funding Sunni extremists in various terrorists organizations? Being responsible for 9/11, London, Paris and San Bernardino attacks?

[lovemystate]

Just now, Meowalpha said:

Are you kidding me??? Saudi education system is doomed because of how much emphasis it lays on Islamic studies when compared to everything else unlike Iran. The educated people in Saudi are not employable because of the lack of skills in anything beside Islam. Because of how doomed the education is, they started KAUST recently, hiring foreign qualified individuals to perform high level research paying there absurd salaries on the order of 400k even for mid level professors. Even with so many perks, people don't stay there because the quality of life is so horrible. I personally know a lot of people that returned from Saudi because they weren't able to stay teaching at KAUST despite making upwards of 300k salary. 

No indian will leave Saudi if he got a chance . You are talking about western professors who have plenty of life style options. 
I don’t know what you mean their education system is “doomed” when they run worlds most profitable and largest companies , some of the largest oil container businesses, their language is one of the five official languages of olympics and uno. 
yes they do have some issues but still a very impressive country.

[lovemystate]

1 minute ago, Meowalpha said:

What are the great achievements you're talking about??? Inciting violence against Shia Muslims? Funding Sunni extremists against in various terrorists organizations? Being responsible for 9/11, London, Paris and San Bernardino attacks?

You are only obsessed about negative points. When America itself is willing to overlook the attacks and maintain such great relationships what’s your problem. 
 

they gave to people what is expected from a ruler- peace, prosperity and health.

[Meowalpha]

3 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

No indian will leave Saudi if he got a chance . You are talking about western professors who have plenty of life style options. 
I don’t know what you mean their education system is “doomed” when they run worlds most profitable and largest companies , some of the largest oil container businesses, their language is one of the five official languages of olympics and uno. 
yes they do have some issues but still a very impressive country.

Saudi Arabia has been known to have educational institutions that are only meant for teaching Islamic studies. Infact this is why the National statistics show that youth are unemployable. How is learning Islam going to feed their stomach? Ofcourse the Government is ridiculously rich that they don't care about educating their citizens. I am not talking about foreign professors at KAUST. A lot of them were Asian professors who left KAUST because it was not liveable. 

[Meowalpha]

5 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

You are only obsessed about negative points. When America itself is willing to overlook the attacks and maintain such great relationships what’s your problem. 
 

they gave to people what is expected from a ruler- peace, prosperity and health.

What they gave the world is Islamic terror organizations. The reason a lot of the western world fears Islamic terrorism is because of Saudi Arabia. Why blame Shia Muslims when all the extremism is coming from Sunni extremists?