How can Reincarnation be Real if the World's Population Keeps Increasing?

[Beardman]

1 minute ago, ram4a said:

Yes Islam, Christianity and Hinduism are to be considered as Faith not Facts....

 

agreed. 

[lovemystate]

animals population is decreasing so their souls are getting promoted as humans.

[Beardman]

1 minute ago, lovemystate said:

animals population is decreasing so their souls are getting promoted as humans.

animals can't  have spiritual seed in their brain, how do they know what sin's they commited for being reborn as humans?

I know the answer why people believe in nonsense

Consider the following 3 points. There is no country where these are more true than in India.

1)Life is difficult. Everyday is a struggle for survival against odds.

2)Life is Random. Death can come at any moment. You have no control.

3)Life is Unfair. Your fate is dependent on the caste/community/religion in which you are born. In short your fate it dependent on pure chance.

It requires mental strength to fully accept these points and still function normally. Most people don't have this mental strength and resort to wishful thinking. They depend on imaginary father figures to take care of them- Gods, Swamis, Gurus, Mullahs etc.

[lovemystate]

1 minute ago, Beardman said:

animals can't  have spiritual seed in their brain, how do they know what sin's they commited for being reborn as humans?

I know the answer why people believe in nonsense

Consider the following 3 points. There is no country where these are more true than in India.

1)Life is difficult. Everyday is a struggle for survival against odds.

2)Life is Random. Death can come at any moment. You have no control.

3)Life is Unfair. Your fate is dependent on the caste/community/religion in which you are born. In short your fate it dependent on pure chance.

It requires mental strength to fully accept these points and still function normally. Most people don't have this mental strength and resort to wishful thinking. They depend on imaginary father figures to take care of them- Gods, Swamis, Gurus, Mullahs etc.

I was just joking ..yes it is rubbish. reincarnation was used to justify caste system - next life you will be born differently - so they dont demand justice in the current and only known life

[Beardman]

Taoist Views on Karma

Taoism is one of the main religious traditions of Chinese origin, and its primary text, the Tao te Ching by Lao Tzu, one of the most widely translated books in human history. Among the facets of the Taoist tradition is an interest in fostering longevity or even immortality, whether that is understood to be a physical immortality or something more subtle. I am not prepared to explore the full scope of Taoist views on the afterlife at this time, but I do want to share some information on a particular Taoist text that I recently ran across, because it presents a novel doctrine of something like karma.

It is possible that this text should be thought of as representing traditional Chinese popular religion rather than Taoism per se. I won't attempt to address that question here, but present the text simply as a traditional doctrine that has points of interest.

Karma Without Rebirth: The Thai-Shang Tractate of Actions and Their Retributions

 

https://baharna.com/karma/taoist.htm

[Beardman]

On 12/26/2019 at 8:31 PM, lovemystate said:

animals population is decreasing so their souls are getting promoted as humans.

“Modern” Homo sapiens (that is, people who were roughly like we are now) first walked the Earth about 50,000 years ago. Since then, more than 108 billion members of our species have ever been born, according to estimates by Population Reference Bureau (PRB). Given the current global population of about 7.5 billion (based on our most recent estimate as of mid-2017), that means those of us currently alive represent about 7 percent of the total number of humans who have ever lived.

PRB estimates that by 2050 about 113 billion people will have ever lived on Earth.

To be sure, calculating the number of people who have ever lived is part science and part art. No demographic data exist for 99 percent of the span of human existence. Still, with some assumptions about prehistoric populations, we can get a rough idea of this historic number (see Table 1).

Table 1. How Many People Have Ever Lived?

Year	Population	Births per 1,000	Births Between Benchmarks	Number Ever Born	Percent of Those Ever Born
50,000 B.C.E.	2	–	–	–	–
8000 B.C.E.	5,000,000	80	1,137,789,769	1,137,789,769	0.4
1 C.E.	300,000,000	80	46,025,332,354	47,163,122,125	0.6
1200	450,000,000	60	26,591,343,000	73,754,465,125	0.6
1650	500,000,000	60	12,782,002,453	86,536,467,578	0.6
1750	795,000,000	50	3,171,931,513	89,708,399,091	0.9
1850	1,265,000,000	40	4,046,240,009	93,754,639,100	1.3
1900	1,656,000,000	40	2,900,237,856	96,654,876,956	1.7
1950	2,516,000,000	31-38	3,390,198,215	100,045,075,171	2.5
1995	5,760,000,000	31	5,427,305,000	105,472,380,171	5.5
2011	6,987,000,000	23	2,130,327,622	107,602,707,793	6.5
2017	7,536,000,000	19	867,982,322	108,470,690,115	6.9
2030	8,563,000,000	16	1,806,595,106	110,277,285,221	7.8
2050	9,846,000,000	15	2,833,529,982	113,110,815,203	8.7

^{Note: The estimates for those ever born apply only to live births; still births are not counted.
Source: Toshiko Kaneda and Genevieve Dupuis, 2017 World Population Data Sheet (Washington, DC: Population Reference Bureau, 2017); United Nations Population Division, World Population Prospects: The 2017 Revision (New York: United Nations, 2017).}

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WHAT CAN WE ESTIMATE ABOUT POPULATION IN PREHISTORY AND HISTORY?

Any estimate of the total number of people who have ever lived depends essentially on two factors: the length of time humans are thought to have been on Earth and the average size of the human population at different periods.

Fixing a time when the human race actually came into existence is not straightforward. Hominids walked the Earth as early as several million years ago, and various ancestors of Homo sapiens appeared at least as early as 700,000 B.C. According to the United Nations Determinants and Consequences of Population Trends, modern Homo sapiens may have appeared about 50,000 B.C.

At the dawn of agriculture, about 8,000 B.C., the world population was somewhere on the order of 5 million. (Very rough figures are given in the table, representing averages of an estimate of ranges given by the United Nations and other sources.) The slow population growth over the 8,000-year period—from an estimated 5 million to 300 million in 1 A.D.—results in a very low growth rate of only 0.0512 percent per year. It is difficult to come up with an average world population size over this period. In all likelihood, human populations in different regions grew or declined in response to famines, the vagaries of animal herds, hostilities, and changing weather and climatic conditions.

In any case, life was short. Life expectancy at birth probably averaged only about 10 years for most of human history. Estimates of average life expectancy in Iron Age France (from 800 B.C. to about 100 A.D.) have been put at only 10 or 12 years. Under these conditions, the birth rate would have to be about 80 live births per 1,000 people just for the species to survive. To put that in perspective, a high birth rate today would be about 45 to 50 live births per 1,000 population, and it is observed in only a few African and several Middle Eastern countries with young populations.

Our birth rate assumption will greatly affect the estimate of the number of people who have ever lived. Infant mortality in the modern human race’s earliest days is thought to have been very high—perhaps 500 infant deaths per 1,000 births, or even higher. Children were probably an economic liability among hunter-gatherer societies, a fact likely to have led to the practice of infanticide. Under these circumstances, a disproportionately large number of births would be required to maintain population growth, and that would raise our estimated number of the “ever born.”

By 1 A.D., the world may have held about 300 million people. One estimate of the population of the Roman Empire, spanning Spain to Asia Minor, in 14 A.D., is 45 million. Other historians, however, set the figure twice as high, suggesting how imprecise population estimates of early historical periods can be.

By 1650, the world’s population rose to about 500 million, not a large increase over the 1 A.D. estimate. The average annual rate of growth was actually lower in this period than the rate suggested for the preceding period from 8,000 B.C. to 1 A.D. One reason for the abnormally slow growth was the Black Death. This dreaded plague was not limited to 14th-century Europe, but may have begun in western Asia about 542 A.D., and spread from there. Experts believe that half the Byzantine Empire was destroyed by plague in the 6th century, a total of 100 million deaths. Such large fluctuations in population size over long periods greatly compound the difficulty of estimating the number of people who have ever lived.

By 1800, however, the world population passed the 1 billion mark, and it has since continued to grow to its current 7.5 billion. This growth is driven in large part by advances in medicine and nutrition that lowered death rates, allowing more people to live into their reproductive years.

HOW DO WE GET FROM 2 BILLION TO 108 BILLION?

Guesstimating the number of people ever born, then, requires selecting population sizes for different points from antiquity to the present and applying assumed birth rates to each period. We start at the very, very beginning—with just two people (a minimalist approach!).

One complicating factor is the pattern of population growth. Did it rise to some level and then fluctuate wildly in response to famines and changes in climate? Or did it grow at a constant rate from one point to another? We cannot know the answers to these questions, although paleontologists have produced a variety of theories. For the purposes of this exercise, it was assumed that a constant growth rate applied to each period up to modern times. Birth rates were set at 80 per 1,000 per year through 1 A.D. and at 60 per 1,000 from 2 A.D. to 1750. Rates then declined to the low 30s by the modern period.

This semi-scientific approach yields an estimate of about 108.4 billion births since the dawn of the modern human race. Clearly, the period 8,000 B.C. to 1 A.D. is key to the magnitude of our number, but, unfortunately, little is known about the population size in that era. If we were to make any guess at all, it might be that our method underestimates the number of births to some degree. The assumption of constant population growth in the earlier period may underestimate the average population size at the time. And, of course, pushing the date of modern humanity’s arrival on the planet before 50,000 B.C. would also raise the number, although perhaps not by terribly much.
 
Table 2. Snapshot of Population History

Number of people ever born	108,470,690,115
World population in mid-2017	7,536,000,000
Percent of those ever born who are living in 2017	6.9

 

Current population: 7.53 billion     out of 108 billion people born since evolution of species

 

I think Our soul is from one of them

 

[Rushabhi]

On 12/26/2019 at 8:55 PM, Beardman said:

written by a human. i dont believe in human. 

if god speaks to human, then he is mentally ill

Every scripture is written by a human 

[Beardman]

10 minutes ago, Rushabhi said:

Every scripture is written by a human 

I want to write a new scripture for human kind

[Daaarling]

On 12/27/2019 at 2:06 PM, Beardman said:

Intelligence, memory tho related aa ee stories

nenu god tho matladanu....naku oka story cheppadu...danni inko book(way of life) create cheyocha ee present generation lo...

as long as spiritual mental illness exists, these type of crap also gets sold.

aithe Q raasinodu pichodu