My thoughts about moving the capital to Vizag

[JambaKrantu]

4 minutes ago, pottipotato said:

also only 3 cities in India can claim to be truly ahead with a modern market that is not going to be affected by any outside factors, like country slowing down... Mumbi, Delhi and now bangalore... rest all cities are just avg or above avg. Hyd isn't in that list.

Vizag can overtake hyd with the right investment. lets say of a semiconductor fab plant there, and a startup culture around it. 

yeah, it requires people from other states to rush into it, but u cant say that vizag can't overtake Hyd, because Hyd is not bangalore or delhi or mumbai.

Dude I don't think you are that familiar with Hyderabad. Hyderabad is now the no 1 city in India for office market absorption for the last 3 years..  It is the only city with Amazon, Facebook, Oracle, Microsoft and Google offices in Asia. US consulate is building the biggest consulate in the world in kokapet now.  There is now way Vizag will even come close to it in the next 20 years..

[JambaKrantu]

Just now, pottipotato said:

I didn't say 'will have'. I said theres a possibility. because Hyd is overrated, especially by comparing itself with bangalore. Hyd has a long way to go to become unbeatable like bangalore.

Hyderabad is already pretty comparable to Bangalore. Just look at the GDPs Bangalore is 95 Billion and Hyderabad is 84 Billion in 2019..

[Android_Halwa]

13 minutes ago, pottipotato said:

by your logic, southern ap can access chennai, south west can access bangalore, central can access Hyd..

so what can northern ap people do? Now, they have vizag. happy for them.

Even before the bifurcation, people from south coastal and rayalaseema are more used to Karnataka and Tamil Nadu than Hyd/AP. This is nothing new. 
 

Anantapur, Kurnool, Chittor,Nellore although part of AP, but they were never really part culturally or ethnically. They have been more familiar to neighboring states than their own and this is quite common, That’s what it happens with such bordering districts closer to major economic centers, even if Vizag is developed and over takes Hyd, people from such south districts will never really care about such feat

[pottipotato]

1 minute ago, JambaKrantu said:

Dude I don't think you are that familiar with Hyderabad. Hyderabad is now the no 1 city in India for office market absorption for the last 3 years..  It is the only city with Amazon, Facebook, Oracle, Microsoft and Google offices in Asia. US consulate is building the biggest consulate in the world in kokapet now.  There is now way Vizag will even come close to it in the next 20 years..

I dont care about all these bullshit MBA terms dude. even vancouver has all the above compaines u mention.. is it the best city in Canada?

bangalore has 100 startups for every suburb of its. what does hyd have? can u name a single one? who cares what its IT minister is tomtomming.

lets be realistic bro. u are sure that vizag will never beat Hyd... u are possibly right. but I'm just saying Hyd is not unbeatable, because its just made of useless corporate offices and nothing else. There may be a few gaming companies and startups, but nothing that gained traction like in bangalore and delhi. Mumbai makes the cut because its the traditional powerhouse. No other city in India is unbeatable.

[Sreeven]

6 minutes ago, pottipotato said:

also only 3 cities in India can claim to be truly ahead with a modern market that is not going to be affected by any outside factors, like country slowing down... Mumbi, Delhi and now bangalore... rest all cities are just avg or above avg. Hyd isn't in that list.

Vizag can overtake hyd with the right investment. lets say of a semiconductor fab plant there, and a startup culture around it. 

yeah, it requires people from other states to rush into it, but u cant say that vizag can't overtake Hyd, because Hyd is not bangalore or delhi or mumbai.

Idi too much expectation..hyd growth rate chusi matladu bro..fast growth and less pollution ante software adi vizag ki raadu..inka export business cheyali and adi jagrathaga expand cheyali because of navy hub vundi vizag lo and once pak tried to attack..semiconductor business antha growth ledu..a business vizag lo eppatinundo vundi and they are researching and making with sand...health care is one of the good industry which vizag can get and already some big players already there...

[pottipotato]

1 minute ago, JambaKrantu said:

Hyderabad is already pretty comparable to Bangalore. Just look at the GDPs Bangalore is 95 Billion and Hyderabad is 84 Billion in 2019..

Hyd's metro area is twice the size of bangalore for this calculation.

[snoww]

8 minutes ago, JambaKrantu said:

Dude I don't think you are that familiar with Hyderabad. Hyderabad is now the no 1 city in India for office market absorption for the last 3 years..  It is the only city with Amazon, Facebook, Oracle, Microsoft and Google offices in Asia. US consulate is building the biggest consulate in the world in kokapet now.  There is now way Vizag will even come close to it in the next 20 years..

Probably vizag can't overtake if you just consider IT sector. But vizag is currently already in top 10 Indian cities by GDP with almost zero IT sector contribution. 

So it is possible Vizag can overtake Hyderabad in overall economy.  But 99% not in IT for sure. 

Surely not anytime in near future. But surely it has better chances than Amaravati by any calculations. 

[JambaKrantu]

1 minute ago, pottipotato said:

I dont care about all these bullshit MBA terms dude. even vancouver has all the above compaines u mention.. is it the best city in Canada?

bangalore has 100 startups for every suburb of its. what does hyd have? can u name a single one? who cares what its IT minister is tomtomming.

lets be realistic bro. u are sure that vizag will never beat Hyd... u are possibly right. but I'm just saying Hyd is not unbeatable, because its just made of useless corporate offices and nothing else. There may be a few gaming companies and startups, but nothing that gained traction like in bangalore and delhi. Mumbai makes the cut because its the traditional powerhouse. No other city in India is unbeatable.

At this point Vizag doesn't even have a remote chance of beating HYD in the next 30 years period! Even if it comes close to Hyd after 30 years why would anyone living in Kurnool pick Vizag against HYD? Both are telugu speaking cities and most people in AP are more familiar with HYD dialect and food compared to vizag.. They can always pick something closer. 

[pottipotato]

1 minute ago, Sreeven said:

Idi too much expectation..hyd growth rate chusi matladu bro..fast growth and less pollution ante software adi vizag ki raadu..inka export business cheyali and adi jagrathaga expand cheyali because of navy hub vundi vizag lo and once pak tried to attack..semiconductor business antha growth ledu..a business vizag lo eppatinundo vundi and they are researching and making with sand...health care is one of the good industry which vizag can get and already some big players already there...

same cheppaku bro. hyd is cheap and has huge tracts of land because of its insane size (like 8 times that of chennai), so its growing.. but its growth has a ceiling.

vizag's growth too has a ceiling. but bangalore's doesn't. delhi's doesn't. Mumbai's doesn't for many different reasons. If vizag is able to replicate bangalore type culture, vizag's growth will also have no ceiling.

will it happen. most likely not. but everybody just swishing away vizag like its nothing is bullshit.

[JambaKrantu]

2 minutes ago, pottipotato said:

Hyd's metro area is twice the size of bangalore for this calculation.

Bangalore is more compact and Hyderabad is more spread out. The populations are mostly comparable and ultimately it's the economic output of the region. 

[JambaKrantu]

2 minutes ago, snoww said:

Probably vizag can't overtake if you just consider IT sector. But vizag is currently already in top 10 Indian cities by GDP with almost zero IT sector contribution. 

So it is possible Vizag can overtake Hyderabad in overall economy.  But 99% not in IT for sure. 

Hyd is not just IT. Hyd has a big Pharma industry, Financial industry and IT industry leaving aside other things like film industry.  Vizag even coming close to HYD in the next 30 years is a joke..

[pottipotato]

1 minute ago, JambaKrantu said:

At this point Vizag doesn't even have a remote chance of beating HYD in the next 30 years period! Even if it comes close to Hyd after 30 years why would anyone living in Kurnool pick Vizag against HYD? Both are telugu speaking cities and most people in AP are more familiar with HYD dialect and food compared to vizag.. They can always pick something closer. 

okay. good for Hyd then.

[lovemystate]

No chance of vizag going anywhere near Hyd in next 30 years. Amaravati has a good chance of reaching gdp of Hyd or Chennai in next 30 years with capital.

[pottipotato]

3 minutes ago, JambaKrantu said:

Hyd is not just IT. Hyd has a big Pharma industry, Financial industry and IT industry leaving aside other things like film industry.  Vizag even coming close to HYD in the next 30 years is a joke..

what is the bet u are willing to make that Vizag will cross Hyd in 10yrs.. but I have to settle on a decent gdp calculation.. or better gdp per capita calculation is better..

vizag can beat Hyd in 10yrs.

[JambaKrantu]

1 minute ago, pottipotato said:

 

vizag can beat Hyd in 10yrs.

In your dreams..