pamogudu Posted January 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, JohnSnow said: Baa how are you? pulkas lo join ayyava? Baa all good. you? Avnu baa i want to be the oppressor for a few days. Jaffas like @lovemystate @TheBrahmabull and @futureofandhra ni aadukovali konni rojulaki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamogudu Posted January 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, bhaigan said: He was against anna daniki proof chupinchu Malli nuvvu post chesina hindu article lekka biskeet avuthadi Periyar and her had a strong friendship based on respect and the values of the movement but it would seem that Veerammal was constantly challenging Periyar on the issues of the scheduled castes. “Look ayya, “ she would say, “ You ask for any number of reservations for the non-brahmin castes, but please don’t even try to move the 16% reserved for the untouchables. that will be unacceptable!” https://medium.com/@dalithistorynow/celebrating-dalit-history-veerammal-and-periyar-differences-with-the-dravidian-movement-c3e8704e1734 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, bhaigan said: He was against anna daniki proof chupinchu Malli nuvvu post chesina hindu article lekka biskeet avuthadi periyar against SC anedhi latest talking point by BJP and its stooges. as if they support SC. aa talking point was prevalent for a long time in TN, brahmins used to use it to counter DMK guys, some of whom did not fight for SC causes like they fought against brahmins. simple ga periyar against SC ani cheppatam is a function of a 3rd rate mind, or of a fascist one. The actual complaint is that DMK is now full of entrenched land owning castes, who don't take dalit causes seriously, and have displayed a certain level of casteism (not upto admk/bjp level) and have stopped very good dalit leaders like parithi izhamvazhithi (my mla) from occupying top leadership positions. but there are examples like A Raja who is a dalit and made it big in DMK. The movement itself is not against dalits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnow Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, pamogudu said: Baa all good. you? Avnu baa i want to be the oppressor for a few days. Jaffas like @lovemystate @TheBrahmabull and @futureofandhra ni aadukovali konni rojulaki. Sacchina TDP ni why samping again? tuglaq gadini kuda question chey baa konchem, janalni himsisthundu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, pamogudu said: Periyar and her had a strong friendship based on respect and the values of the movement but it would seem that Veerammal was constantly challenging Periyar on the issues of the scheduled castes. “Look ayya, “ she would say, “ You ask for any number of reservations for the non-brahmin castes, but please don’t even try to move the 16% reserved for the untouchables. that will be unacceptable!” https://medium.com/@dalithistorynow/celebrating-dalit-history-veerammal-and-periyar-differences-with-the-dravidian-movement-c3e8704e1734 so asking for reservations for non dalit castes, who are poor and under represented is equal to being against dalits aa? did he try to remove reservation for dalits? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidney Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, bhaigan said: Periyar main fight was rationalist moment bhayya, womens rights ani anavasaramga disvussion ni side track chesthunnav may be Bro.. Might b his idelogy were great in few areas - I dont know. But when we see his history online- looks awkward google, wiki articles lo vunnadhi cheppa Women’s rights Main article: Periyar E. V. Ramasamy and women's rights As a rationalist and ardent social reformer, Periyar advocated forcefully throughout his life that women should be given their legitimate position in society as the equals of men and that they should be given good education and have the right to property. He thought age and social customs was not a bar in marrying women. He was keen that women should realise their rights and be worthy citizens of their country.[56] Periyar fought against the orthodox traditions of marriage as suppression of women in Tamil Nadu and throughout the Indian sub-continent. Though arranged marriages were meant to enable a couple to live together throughout life, it was manipulated to enslave women.[57] Much worse was the practice of child marriages practised throughout India at the time. It was believed that it would be a sin to marry after puberty.[58] Another practice, which is prevalent today, is the dowry system where the bride's family is supposed to give the husband a huge payment for the bride. The purpose of this was to assist the newly wedded couple financially, but in many instances dowries were misused by bridegrooms. The outcome of this abuse turned to the exploitation of the bride's parents wealth, and in certain circumstances, lead to dowry deaths.[59] There have been hundreds of thousands of cases where wives have been murdered, mutilated, and burned alive because the father of the bride was unable to make the dowry payment to the husband. Periyar fiercely stood up against this abuse meted out against women.[60] Women in India also did not have rights to their families' or husbands' property. Periyar fought fiercely for this and also advocated for women to have the right to separate or divorce their husbands under reasonable circumstances.[60]While birth control remained taboo in society of Periyar's time, he advocated for it not only for the health of women and population control, but for the liberation of women.[61] He criticised the hypocrisy of chastity for women and argued that it should either apply also to men, or not at all for both genders.[62] While fighting against this, Periyar advocated getting rid of the Devadasi system. In his view it was an example of a list of degradations of women, attaching them to temples for the entertainment of others, and as temple prostitutes.[63] Further, for the liberation of women, Periyar pushed for their right to have an education and to join the armed services and the police force.[62][64] According to biographer M.D. Gopalakrishnan, Periyar and his movement achieved a better status for women in Tamil society. Periyar held that, in matters of education and employment, there should be no difference between men and women. Gopalakrishnan states that Periyar's influence in the State departments and even the Center made it possible for women to join police departments and the army. Periyar also spoke out against child marriage.[52] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinna84 Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, JohnSnow said: Sacchina TDP ni why samping again? tuglaq gadini kuda question chey baa konchem, janalni himsisthundu. CBN deserves Respect for his move on Capital Shift in Council !! Jaggad ki rojulu dhaggara paddaayi !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, pamogudu said: Periyar was someone who was jealous of the constitutional safeguards that were given to the dalits. Having repeatedly spoken of dalits as a people who don’t have a history, who don’t have a political movement, who don’t have leaders, Periyar even made them believe this. Having used the dalits to serve his political ends, he asked them: ‘Of what use are you to us?’ Periyar worked solely for the cause of the non-brahmin, non-religious minority, non-dalit backward and upper castes. He deployed the concept of ‘majority’ for this purpose. There’s only one difference between the majoritarianism that the hindutvawadis propound and that of Periyar’s: that is, over the exclusion of brahmins from this majority. https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/periyars-hindutva/225056 I know why you hate periyar, because toka is naicker , which is naidu or kamma in AP Ee Outlook magazine ki unna sanctity ento I dont know But aa rationalist moment valla bagupadindi nuvvu anna aa SC ae , equal rights anedi vachindi, caste thing anedi almost vellipoyindi TN nunchi until again BJP lanti parties poking into TN raising voice against periyar with their religious emotional politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinna84 Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 @kidney : Veella premalu, apyaayalu chusthuntey muchatestundhi ba.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnow Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Chinna84 said: CBN deserves Respect for his move on Capital Shift in Council !! Jaggad ki rojulu dhaggara paddaayi !! aa musalodu repo maapo pothadu baadha ledhu, aa rendo line lo dhi nijam ayyi ee rowdy langa gadu kuda pothe state bagupaduddhi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 periyar was ahead of his times on almost all issues. he asked for non dalit reservation too in the 50s. something that became a reality in the mandal commission in 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinna84 Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, bhaigan said: I know why you hate periyar, because toka is naicker , which is naidu or kamma in AP Ee Outlook magazine ki unna sanctity ento I dont know But aa rationalist moment valla bagupadindi nuvvu anna aa SC ae , equal rights anedi vachindi, caste thing anedi almost vellipoyindi TN nunchi until again BJP lanti parties poking into TN raising voice against periyar with their religious emotional politics asalu BJP poking chesindhani nuvvu ye rakamga chebuthunnav bro.. Rajni gave a statement about it - which is being highly appreciated by TN ppl itself. Adhedho dalits andharni target chesinatlu endhuku paint vesthunnaaru meeru ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottipotato Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, bhaigan said: I know why you hate periyar, because toka is naicker , which is naidu or kamma in AP Ee Outlook magazine ki unna sanctity ento I dont know But aa rationalist moment valla bagupadindi nuvvu anna aa SC ae , equal rights anedi vachindi, caste thing anedi almost vellipoyindi TN nunchi until again BJP lanti parties poking into TN raising voice against periyar with their religious emotional politics brahmins (some of them) have been desperately trying to paint Periyar as an unhinged madman, and anti dalit for many decades now. pretty sure that writer is a TN brahmin too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinna84 Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, pottipotato said: periyar was ahead of his times on almost all issues. he asked for non dalit reservation too in the 50s. something that became a reality in the mandal commission in 70s. Aliens gurinchi kuda emaina cheppaado cheppava - ninna edho video chusthey confusing ga vundhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Chinna84 said: asalu BJP poking chesindhani nuvvu ye rakamga chebuthunnav bro.. Rajni gave a statement about it - which is being highly appreciated by TN ppl itself. Adhedho dalits andharni target chesinatlu endhuku paint vesthunnaaru meeru ?? Rajini is puppet of BJP Rajini ni politics lo ki ravali ani evaru encourage chesaru ede BJP kada Rajini evaru appreciate cheyatledu he will get back fired wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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