how effective is giving?

[pottipotato]

There are a 1000 differnt better ways to organize ourselves. but its hard to make everybody agree to it, because the state doesn't support it. 

so first kill the state, and watch people choose their own destiny. Its not money that needs to be killed. Its the state.  Its a long process. That requires physical protests, and own distribution networks outside of the 'law'., and lot of tech that is democratized.

automation is going to change the world in ways no one can imagine.

[Beardman]

1 hour ago, pottipotato said:

It is our suffering that brings us together. It is not love. Love does not obey the mind, and turns to hate when forced. The bond that binds us is beyond choice. We are brothers. We are brothers in what we share. In pain, which each of us must suffer alone, in hunger, in poverty, in hope, we know our brotherhood. We know it, because we have had to learn it. We know that there is no help for us but from one another, that no hand will save us if we do not reach out our hand. And the hand that you reach out is empty, as mine is. You have nothing. You possess nothing. You own nothing. You are free. All you have is what you are, and what you give.

Ursula Le Guin, The Dispossessed.

Well said

harsh truth