TrollBait Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, Silverado said: That's what I am saying in your data only 5.5 percent in men can marry outside Only 2 percent in women that shows level of patriarch society in pisful yes. but calling them pissful at every opportunity is not going to make them change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Muslim society are male dominating and have less rights to women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Silverado said: Whereas it relatively equal in hindus let me try to find out more recent data. I do agree that muslim societies are relatively more patriarchal, and its true for some hindu groups too (not all) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, TrollBait said: yes. but calling them pissful at every opportunity is not going to make them change. You should hold bull by its horn Never beat around the bush it won't help That's why Modi. Gave Muslim women some rights against mullah wishes that's why majority women voted for yogi in 2017 assembly elections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, TrollBait said: let me try to find out more recent data. I do agree that muslim societies are relatively more patriarchal, and its true for some hindu groups too (not all) Appeasement won't work if you do appeasement they will ask for more rights In Australia prime minister asked them to follow UCC or get lost from country they agreed As far as some Hindu groups like iyengar brahmins conservative but majority Hindu are not so conservative against this generation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Silverado said: You should hold bull by its horn Never beat around the bush it won't help That's why Modi. Gave Muslim women some rights against mullah wishes that's why majority women voted for yogi in 2017 assembly elections no. first of all, you are not even right about what you are claiming. There's no data to support your claim that muslim girls marry less out of their religion. I think the extraordinary numerical strength of hindus in india will actually skew the percentage in favour of more muslim girls marrying out of their religion, than Hindu girls. Its just a hunch. Modi was bullshitting muslim women anyway. he cannot help them by throwing their husbands in jail. Its just pr nonsense. It may help a few muslim girls escape abusive marriage, but will victimize much more muslim men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Silverado said: Appeasement won't work if you do appeasement they will ask for more rights In Australia prime minister asked them to follow UCC or get lost from country they agreed As far as some Hindu groups like iyengar brahmins conservative but majority Hindu are not so conservative against this generation if you refer to someone who's lived in the country from 100s of years as some 3rd party, then that country doesn't deserve to exist. australia has a different history to India. the mid east migrants to aus are hardly 30yrs old, since the lebanese war. India has had muslim presence even before Babur invaded India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 or even mohammad ghori invaded india. India had muslims even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, TrollBait said: no. first of all, you are not even right about what you are claiming. There's no data to support your claim that muslim girls marry less out of their religion. I think the extraordinary numerical strength of hindus in india will actually skew the percentage in favour of more muslim girls marrying out of their religion, than Hindu girls. Its just a hunch. Modi was bullshitting muslim women anyway. he cannot help them by throwing their husbands in jail. Its just pr nonsense. It may help a few muslim girls escape abusive marriage, but will victimize much more muslim men. No I don't have any data I just quoted the data you posted above Modi was not bullshitting with Muslim women it will not victimise Muslim men, bcoz domestic violence is prevalent in hindus also there in hindus but no men said we don't domestic violence act, triple talaq is not domestic physical violence it is domestic mental violence for a women Modi should handover all masjids and mosques like Hindu devasthanam trusts and put taxes on them, so mullahs will agree for reforms in their religion otherwise they follow medical Sharia law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, TrollBait said: if you refer to someone who's lived in the country from 100s of years as some 3rd party, then that country doesn't deserve to exist. australia has a different history to India. the mid east migrants to aus are hardly 30yrs old, since the lebanese war. India has had muslim presence even before Babur invaded India. I'm not saying they should be treated differently they should have same civil code like Hindus,same taxes on religious institutions like Hindus etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Silverado said: bcoz domestic violence is prevalent in hindus also there in hindus but no men said we don't domestic violence act, there's great resistance to this even among hindus. it'll take a generation for people to get used to the idea of domestic violence. and I suspect even muslims will join the process and write better domestic violence protections to their personal law in India. at the moment, Modi is untrustworthy on matters pertaining to muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, TrollBait said: or even mohammad ghori invaded india. India had muslims even then. Why sirajuddin udwala not helped Marathas in panipat war even though they helped his father in difficult times,that is called jihad against kaffirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, TrollBait said: there's great resistance to this even among hindus. it'll take a generation for people to get used to the idea of domestic violence. and I suspect even muslims will join the process and write better domestic violence protections to their personal law in India. at the moment, Modi is untrustworthy on matters pertaining to muslims. No he can only solve their problems bcoz he is from ground no law minister in any government interacted with women during making laws for then except Modi and bjp government If Modi give property rights to Muslim women And ban nikah halala there ends myth of Muslim vote bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Modi only can help women bcoz he know sufferings of his poverty mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 5 hours ago, jaglaqq said: Idhaithe correct. He is against AP development also. Special status isthaa ani mosam chesaadu BJP is against states having power. Even congress is,but congress doesn’t have mass hysteria element. but bjp can use religion to kill federalism one step at a time .... they will do anything to murder South Indian identities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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